anonym0u5

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Our main character's goal continues to be the same stupid idea of marrying one or more rich old women so that he can live off of them, instead of getting a good paying job and trying to go back to college.
Okay now that I've also finished the update, I'm on the same boat as you.

Honestly the MC is still as bad as ever, the kick to the face isn't gonna make him any likable than the previous version (the DEMO). Sure he doesn't looks like a coward, but that doesn't meant this one display of "bravery" is enough to redeem the rest of his rotten personality, especially when he still going with the "marry to a rich woman to get out of poverty" route.

Also pardon me for my harsh language but the mini game is absolute trash, probably one of the worst renpy mini game I've ever played.
 

Fazed

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Well the continuation of the prologue with this update did not do much to change my opinion about the first part. Our main character's goal continues to be the same stupid idea of marrying one or more rich old women so that he can live off of them, instead of getting a good paying job and trying to go back to college.

Nor was there a great improvement in terms of what kind of qualities or skills our character could have so as not to make him look so bad or pathetic (and not that attempt of supposed martial artist did not help much). It is more likely that they want to continue adding more problems to our protagonist with that matter of our aunt Scarlett and that alleged police officer. What I can rescue is that at least there was an attempt to improve on the part of Wisfton as far as his wardrobe is concerned even if it was for a short time.
Eh, the MC at least showed that he knows he's being a chump and commits to some sort of self improvement in that regard. It's a bit better than where 0.1 left off so I'm cautiously optimistic he will slowly start to grow into it more. There is some vestige of that present. And yea with how drastic those options toward Elena were it felt like there needed to be more happening if you took those options, but she is one of the main cast so I dont think you would be able to cut any of the group out. It's the details like this that make the game feel rough around the edges. Doesnt quite mesh.
 

Pyromanci

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Really wanted to like this one... It's not technically checking any of my boxes, but it's clear a lot of effort went into it. In the end I just can't ignore the terrible story, and the ever increasing desire to murder the MC...
 
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Duke4515

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I played the old version and I was happy with it overall. Now with the remake idk how I feel. I actually kind of like some of the girls less now...I don't like their personalities and I'm not sure why I should like them. With Elena, well she had no reason to not vote for us imo, even without her vote it wouldn't have mattered and it seems like the zach guy wasn't much better so it just makes her look like a bad friend and teacher for not being supportive and fair. Sophia apparently accused us of rape and got us hurt, I can't see any reason for forgiving that ever, so it ruined any interest I had for her. Also my new fake girlfriend is a cam girl/escort and I assume she will be a LI at some point and Bianca is already an x-pornstar so I can't say I'm to excited about having more of that.

Now admittedly and to be fair I haven't played through the prologue yet and things might turn out to be different to how the MC might see it, but so far I'm less interested in the girls now then I was then for reasons like the ones above.
 
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Jobqu3016

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True, it's the work of my life. There are zero chances that I'll abandon it.
The problem is that I'm confused about whether I made the right choice or not by rebooting the whole game.
Bro don't worry the decision is done you can do nothing about it now from my perspective the mechanics and ui improved so fucking good im really impressed BUT maybe the slap the mother gives to the MC and some other behavioral aspects of the characters are little too exaggerated for example the MC wanting to fuck everything in sight or the teacher being too rude like she knows the mc has issues and she is not a bad person so i dont understand the reason of why being so mean all the time even when they are alone maybe work on the Characters a little better you could go back to the previous version and see how you wrote the characters in the original and see why people dont like the changes but at least for me some of the actions the do dont make any sense you can rework some parts of the prologue and change some scenes and dialogue, and the prologue it's WAY TOO LONG many of the things that happen could happen in way less scenes but i really like the decision parts Im just hoping they genuinely have an impact on the story, It doesnt have to be a completely different story for every important decision but maybe a different interactions or scenes would be enough to give meaning to the decisions and fix all the typos in the new version because sheeesh theres a lot dont get me wrong in the original there were a lot more and worse so its certainly an improvement but still give it a read or two or hire someone to do it so in conclusion take this as a new begining taking in cosideration some of the positive feedback but don't let the feedback make the game from what i´ve seen on this thread most of the people upset right now are upset because they are most familiar with the "original" version of the game just give it some time it has potential and dont pay attention to the people insulting or saying hurtful things
I hope this reply made you a litte more confident and I hope all the effort you put into this pays back sooner :)
 
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jhustrue

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Umm... can you edit the OP with an explanation somewhere as to why this game ended up going from version .4 to .2? I'm so confused about whether it's a remake or what, and I shouldn't have to go digging further into the thread to find out when the Dev has ownership of the thread.
 

DankJk

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is there a gallery, also anyone has a 100% save if there is a gallery (this is my first time playing this game and i just want the scenes)
 
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IXL

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Anyone able to get the skip option ? Cannot see it anywhere, but can set within options, but not actually activate it in the game?
 

eddie297

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True, it's the work of my life. There are zero chances that I'll abandon it.
The problem is that I'm confused about whether I made the right choice or not by rebooting the whole game.
Loved the old one and loving the new one too. I see a big change in quality, maybe starting it from scratch has been easier for you than editing the entire previous version? Anyway just congratulate you on your progress, keep it up!
 
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DA22

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Well reading through the comment, besides adding the minigame to the sex scene the main complaints actually seem to be with the new story and characters compared to the old one. Technically the remake seems to be a success, but dev might have lost a lot of people with the new story and drama compared to game before remake.

Now MC does seem to need more positive aspects, even rooting for him at the moment if immerse in him you might not wish him on any of the ladies that you like, let alone as a male gold digger with nothing to offer either to those women. :p It feels like he was set to far back and given way too much of a growth path that will be hard to pull off.

Elena is another example, what she does is basically destroying MC's life before it even starts for a basically selfish reason that has nothing to do with Mc as such. That is not the action of a friend of the family or even the MC. It makes no sense to be in a good relation with her after that for MC or Alice, this will be hard to correct even if would be corrected by giving her a better reason for it and speak with MC about it beforehand. But MC is fated to be with her for whatever reason.

Aunt and Mom also does not help, another character to hate instead of to love and Mom has also not been improved, but opposite and dev made same mistake as in first game and make mom disappear from game again at start.

This was one of the major weaknesses of original game together with her incest taboo and her seeking other males playing even if so called nothing happened. If a character is meant to fall for incest, give them a good reason to want to be in an incestuous relation that is stronger as that taboo or you will always get into trouble as a writer to make her getting voluntarily without force, trickery or such in a relation with MC believable. :)

Setting her aside from early action again will just make it more annoying to have a slow build up again when she finally does come back, since it will feel as repeat of steps you already had with other girls a few months later instead of exciting. Of course the fact the remake just started when we were close to finally getting through to her did not help in disappointment of some people. :) Basically if sent her away again at start of game, make sure she has a good reason when she comes back to be with MC and let her path be very different as that of other girls, let her hunt MC for example while MC is less sure he wants to be with his Mom, (just an example of another route, just use your imagination dev :)).

The addition of Zach and such also did not help wit the tone of the game, one of the things people liked before the remake was that all the characters were loveable before the remake even if they were maybe not perfect and overall tone of game was fun instead of being annoyed with many characters. Even if there will be no NTR, just adding him and that aunt as is adds a negative tone to the game that is a turnoff instead of a plus. I do not need to beat Zach to feel great about MC or feel he deserves the girls just after that. If he is not worthy without Zach, he is not after beating Zach either. Other drama please. :)

With the remake I suspect dev sacrificed that loveable factor too much for personality and drama, while also adding outright hateful characters. If anything I would look at that aspect as a dev and see if I could rebalance that, starting with Elena. Even if she should need something for the story to make up to MC to make both grow, something that destroys his life for support of the school is an extremely bad start to believe there is any care or love there or even want to be in a loving relationship with her ever for many people. Now that is not something to do to a main girl unless she is meant to become his corrupted dominated sex slave. :p Now if her reason would have been that she thought MC was not ready yet and she had offered for example extra training so he would be ready next year that would have felt very different for example, even if she were to offer her help now after her reason to not support him it would feel at best as guilt instead of a positive reason.

Do not forget in a harem and romance game players need to have some reason to want to be with the girls and the girls with MC, unless it is a harem fully about corruption and domination and our MC does not have the tools for that last. :)
 
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Waifston

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I think that when you follow a story (that comes out in portions) for more than a year, and right when you're about to reach the point you were waiting for from day one, the creator of that story decides it needs a "remake", with a new main character and a completely different setup, you have the right to feel at least a little bit disappointed about it and since some people have to vent before moving on, I don't see a better place to do so, than a public forum dedicated to said story. Everyone has different coping mechanisms, even for things that might seem insignificant, like the reboot of a game you used to like.
That's the true reason why this turned into such a mess? For that matter I created a poll, people have voted for the continuation of the remake.
 
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Norman Knight

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That's the true reason why this turned into such a mess? For that matter I created a poll, people have voted for the continuation of the remake.
partially, and the rest its because the characters acted differently from what people have come to expect, to continue with the reboot its probably the best thing you can do, you are obviously passionate about this project and the negative reception may have leaved you with a sour taste but do try to read some of the comments that go more in depth about what (in their opinion) its not working about the reboot , you did improve on the visual aspects of the game now its the story aspects that need to be improved to make this reboot a truly better experience
 
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