MercernayMage

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Found a sotflock. In downturn, once you recruit Mack, add him to the combat roster and enter a fight. You can't end the first turn of combat, hitting end turn just does nothing. Remove Mack from the team, do the same thing, fight goes on as normal.
I can't reproduce that. If you can get it to happen, send me your save folder.

Zip this folder: C:\Users\YOUR USER NAME HERE\AppData\LocalLow\DefaultCompany\Unyielding

and I'll figure out what is going on. Post it here, PM me, or email it to mercernarymage@gmail.com.

In the appearance menu I have options with a yelloq outline. Are these I can find during the game and the options without the outline not?
A yellow outline means you can find it in the game. If there isn't an outline, it's only in the editor.
 

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Ok, after playing through this game it's quite dissapointing. While it started strong and to around book 3 it's really damn good, solid 5/5, after that the quality drops and there is 5 porn images total through books 3,4,5 and 6 and while writing in h-scenes is pretty good, it lacks the sheer amount of content text based h games have to compensate - you get the same low amount of scenes as you would with artwork, but without artwork. Maybe there was more in endings, but at that point I was pretty tired from it and just checked one ending I was interested in and didn't bother with the rest.
The amount of characters gets too big for me and their stories are really damn long while the only ones I cared about are characters in books 1 and 2, maybe some from book 3.
Save system is a pain in the ass, Ren'Py spoiled me too much to tolerate it.

As a VN it would be fine I guess if you replaced porn with more content, as a porn game it is lacking.
 
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Kamel515

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Is anyone run it on Mac? For some reason, it gives me a mistake "The application Unyielding can't be opened"
 

manscout

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Congrats to the dev on finishing the game, I had been keeping an eye on it for a long time and now that it is complete I didn't have any more excuses for putting off actually playing the whole thing through.

I finished my first playthrough and really enjoyed the game, the writing was very good, in particular the lore and worldbuilding, I also liked the "tidbits" feature, shame it wasn't quite as prevalent in the later parts of the game. The combat was also nice, it presented a fun challenge at times, although some of the core mechanics frustrated me some other times (partially my fault because I insisted on beating the game without using shop items or advancement points). Overall I'm really happy with the game, the finale was pretty epic.

The rest of this post might get a bit lengthy and ranty, but I just want to restate that I enjoyed the game, most of the criticisms I may write come mostly from me just wanting to pick at my thoughts rather than objective faults of the game.
Can you give me examples of this? I'm happy to clean up narrative.
I'm not the person you replied to in that comment, but I did feel some dissonance in my playthrough as well. For context, my first playthrough I decided the right thing to do was to try to deny the curse as much as possible, so I drew the line at Catelly never having physical sexual relations with people that triggered the curse (so no sexual acts with men nor girls with dicks), mainly as a way of avoiding the goals and progression of the curse, which were expressed by Collaterin in her "tidbit" after Catelly's first visit to her as being impregnation and further transformations according to her partner's desire. As such, in my playthrough Catelly only had lesbian sex, although I did not have a problem with playing out scenes where Catelly was tempted by men (so I still did the Wilhelm training scenes).

With that context in mind, I wrote down moments where I felt the narrative dissonance was stronger:
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Also, I think more than a narrative dissonance, the struggle I think players might have with enjoying some elements of this game is the thematic dissonance between the story and the sexual content, I will put my thoughts under the following spoiler to keep the post from taking too much space in the thread:
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Once again, congrats on finishing the game, you did a good job and I hope the development of Unyielding 2 goes well.
 

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Thanks so much for the feedback! This is great stuff!

(partially my fault because I insisted on beating the game without using shop items or advancement points).
This was actually how I balanced the game. If I could beat a fight within three tries without leveling up and not using items, it was the correct difficulty for normal mode.

As such, in my playthrough Catelly only had lesbian sex, although I did not have a problem with playing out scenes where Catelly was tempted by men (so I still did the Wilhelm training scenes).
I make a porn game with a story, and people get into the story and cheer for the main character so they avoid the porn!


In the first quest with Gwyn and Lucy, when the girls go to question the tailor and one of them uses their "feminine wiles" to get some information out of him, Catelly says that even though she is ashamed she didn't think of doing that herself, she appreciates the break from the "unrelenting fuckings" (once again, no sex with men before this point)
Yeah, this one for sure. It'll get changed.

During the downturn adventure, when the party visits the barn, Catelly goes away for a little while for a "roll in the hay" with a couple of farmers. Sure it is only implied and happens "offscreen", but the scene and the characters' reactions didn't leave much room for other interpretations and there was no choice to avoid it.
Can you give me more information? That USED to be how this scene played out, but someone brought this up exactly so I changed it.

Now Catelly says: "Do you two really think I hauled off and got gangbanged behind a barn?" implying it didn't happen. Did I somehow mess up and the old dialogue is still there somehow?

In the "pie" scene at the downturn celebration, Catelly's favourite food ends up being "cum". I'm a bit iffy on this one, in one hand it could make sense that the curse rewrote Catelly's taste to desire cum by itself, but on the other hand you'd think she'd crave it more by association with the sexual act. Either way, if I had her not have sexual relations with anyone with a penis how would she be so familiar with the taste?
I guess that is a good point. I'll change this one.

In the "birthday" scene during sandy coast if you have already retrieved Brandy, when the party goes back to the beach Catelly and male-Dan go off to the side to relieve each other even if you refused the scene with him back at the castle. It does happen offscreen, but there is no choice to deny it.
Yeah, I use choices to prevent the player from getting sex they might not want to read, but that is fair. I'll add a check for the people that really want to play Catelly avoiding all male sex.

"Walk with Brandy" is unlocked even if you refused all sex scenes with her before this point, no option to refuse sex with Brandy in that scene (although only the strongest of wills would be able to do it after she showed her drawing).
Great find. This is more like a bug. This shouldn't be there at all if you haven't done any Brandy content before this.

"Sneak Out", the culmination of the Wilhelm training/teasing arc, has no option to refuse the sex scene. This one I'm fine with because it is literally spelled out that sex would happen if the player continued the quest chain, but it is inconsistent with the rest of the game where scenes that could initiate a sexual relationship would involve a choice.[/SPOILER]
I struggle with this one. You HAD to know where this was going! You had so many chances to back out of it. I guess it was the first time real sex happened, so my own rules say a check has to be there.

The problems you point out I think are an excellent critique. I assumed people would want to watch the sassy red head get corrupted into a sex loving toy, but many people expressed a lot of interest in that not happening. Orginally, choices existed solely to prevent players from getting content they didn't want. I wrote all of it with the mindset of it being canon though. Until the very end where Cat has to pick someone (or not), every sex scene was supposed to have happened.

Somewhere along the way, people didn't like that so I kinda changed my mindset. It left the game feeling muddled and serving two conflicting masters.

Your solutions to the problem are great, but are well, well outside of the scope of what I'm going to do for a released game. I needed this feedback 3+ years ago!
 

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This was actually how I balanced the game. If I could beat a fight within three tries without leveling up and not using items, it was the correct difficulty for normal mode.
I was playing on hard though so some of the fights definitely took a few more than 3 attempts. I will have fun seeing how much stronger I can be with actual upgrades in a following playthrough. I like the systems and the unique mechanics of most fights, the frustration mostly only came from when all my damage characters would suddendly be stricken with absolute blindness and fail to kill what I needed dead. Or some gimmicky fights that required a good opening or I had no chance (e.g, ship battle was a bit like this, depending on the order of actions in the first turn the pirates would sometimes move and occupy a lot of the space I needed to avoid going overboard, so if I couldn't imediatelly kill them to free up the tile due to a miss or a low damage roll, I'd be down a character in the first battle and be pretty much doomed, maybe there could be a "brace yourself" action that prevented you from getting swept or reduced it to only 1 tile instead of 2).
I make a porn game with a story, and people get into the story and cheer for the main character so they avoid the porn!
The humanity!
Can you give me more information? That USED to be how this scene played out, but someone brought this up exactly so I changed it.

Now Catelly says: "Do you two really think I hauled off and got gangbanged behind a barn?" implying it didn't happen. Did I somehow mess up and the old dialogue is still there somehow?
That's the dialogue I read, I just misread the situation. I vaguely recall the scene saying Catelly had hay on her hair and the 2 men shared a smile after Catelly denied getting gangbanged, so I thought Catelly was lying to save face. I get that the men could have shared a smile just because they thought the accusation was funny, but what was Catelly doing then?
Great find. This is more like a bug. This shouldn't be there at all if you haven't done any Brandy content before this.
To be clear, I did all other Brandy events, I just refused any sex scenes in them. Not sure if the event chain was meant to be blocked off earlier than this or not.
The problems you point out I think are an excellent critique. I assumed people would want to watch the sassy red head get corrupted into a sex loving toy, but many people expressed a lot of interest in that not happening. Orginally, choices existed solely to prevent players from getting content they didn't want. I wrote all of it with the mindset of it being canon though. Until the very end where Cat has to pick someone (or not), every sex scene was supposed to have happened.

Somewhere along the way, people didn't like that so I kinda changed my mindset. It left the game feeling muddled and serving two conflicting masters.
Catelly just garners too much sympathy. Kinda hard to want to see her brought down lower when she's starting the game already in the gutter. Also is Catelly sassy? Maybe in real life terms she would be, but relative to a lot of the other characters in the game she almost comes across as mild-mannered. I assume sass is just how people say hello in Imil.

I guess back when she was a man, Catelly shared some of the pervy opinions that often motivate people into taking advantage of her, so there is a bit of a karmic appeal there? But in my opinion Catelly is still too nice for that to be enough, and both the male endings pretty much show that Aaron is a gentleman, or at least close enough to one so that you can't hold it against him.
Your solutions to the problem are great, but are well, well outside of the scope of what I'm going to do for a released game. I needed this feedback 3+ years ago!
Haha, I figured that was the case. Will get back to you when my source allows me to invent time magic!

I'm probably gonna do 2 more playthroughs of the game, 1 where I play with the intention of ending the game with the female ending from the get go but with some self-respect and some self-preservation (thinking of drawing the line at avoiding scenes that lead to transformations, but pregnancy is not a worry), will definitely let some of the other girls get hit with them though, I was too sympathetic regarding nonconsensual transformations in my first playthrough, but this time they are getting hit by some of them for all the grief they gave me. And then for the final one I'm just gonna go all out, Catelly will go through all the scenes and get hit by everything and everyone, she will earn her place among the gods as an avatar of sex itself!
 

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The problems you point out I think are an excellent critique. I assumed people would want to watch the sassy red head get corrupted into a sex loving toy, but many people expressed a lot of interest in that not happening. Orginally, choices existed solely to prevent players from getting content they didn't want. I wrote all of it with the mindset of it being canon though. Until the very end where Cat has to pick someone (or not), every sex scene was supposed to have happened.

Somewhere along the way, people didn't like that so I kinda changed my mindset. It left the game feeling muddled and serving two conflicting masters.
I think it's always a difficult line to walk and it's easy to end up pleasing no one when you try to please everyone. Personally though I enjoyed Cat's progression into sluttiness.
 
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Quick question from the wiki guide for the transformations
Both Bimbo Fhan and Carolina require to do "Story between Mack and Fhan" and "Fhan's dance"

I have completed the entirety of the map after finding Mack, but then when I go to Celebration, Fhan only appears in Pie, and Mack in his Fence

Are the requirements further down the line or am I doing something wrong in the map section?
 

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Quick question from the wiki guide for the transformations
Both Bimbo Fhan and Carolina require to do "Story between Mack and Fhan" and "Fhan's dance"

I have completed the entirety of the map after finding Mack, but then when I go to Celebration, Fhan only appears in Pie, and Mack in his Fence

Are the requirements further down the line or am I doing something wrong in the map section?
Try to rest during the map section, you should have options of different scenes to play during the rest (you can still play them even if you are out of resources I believe). Do the one between Mack and Fhan and that should unlock Fhan's dance.
 
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ship battle
This is the only group of fights I thought might be too hard. It's easier with Blackfire than Fhan, but still a pain.


That's the dialogue I read, I just misread the situation. I vaguely recall the scene saying Catelly had hay on her hair and the 2 men shared a smile after Catelly denied getting gangbanged, so I thought Catelly was lying to save face. I get that the men could have shared a smile just because they thought the accusation was funny, but what was Catelly doing then?
Okay, I totally see the argument now. It's bad writing on my part. The intent of the line doesn't come through. Cat doesn't actually have hay in her hair. Danica is just trying to make her doubt herself. Clearly it doesn't work!

Catelly just garners too much sympathy. Kinda hard to want to see her brought down lower when she's starting the game already in the gutter.
Yeah, I guess I see this. Nobody wants to read about a sad puppy getting kicked, if your mindset is that sex is being defeated.

Also is Catelly sassy? Maybe in real life terms she would be, but relative to a lot of the other characters in the game she almost comes across as mild-mannered. I assume sass is just how people say hello in Imil.

I guess back when she was a man, Catelly shared some of the pervy opinions that often motivate people into taking advantage of her, so there is a bit of a karmic appeal there? But in my opinion Catelly is still too nice for that to be enough, and both the male endings pretty much show that Aaron is a gentleman, or at least close enough to one so that you can't hold it against him.
Whaaaat! She is plenty sassy!

Aaron is as much as a gentleman as a porn game's main character can be without making it weird.
 

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Hello, i'm just here to say this game is good. Very good arts, good history and character, good writting.
MercenaryMage, Good job ;)
 
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Hi, mac like to make problems. I am trying to open the game but I get "“UnyieldingMac1.0.1” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash." What should I do?
 

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Hi, mac like to make problems. I am trying to open the game but I get "“UnyieldingMac1.0.1” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash." What should I do?
Run this in your console:
SUDO xattr -d com.apple.quarantine <PATH TO APP>
 
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