RPGM Completed Urban Demons [v1.1 Beta] [Nergal]

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MegamanMegas

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CrimsonINC said:
More to the point, asking someone else to code it or "finish" it would be like asking someone to finish writing a book you had nearly completed. This is Nergal's game, and neither Glassfish nor Chilly want that to change. I don't see how not wanting to pay someone to work on a free game that you are making is greedy.

Also, there has been some activity on the code trello, which indicates Nergal is doing some work on it. So that's cool.



Nergal has expressed appreciation for Chilly's work in modding, in that it kept interest in the game active during his hiatus, however none of the mods are "official" per se. They are simply fan mods, which include fan made character art regarding subjects, characters, and themes that Nergal has officially stated will not be in the official version.
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Working collaboratively makes the game's production occur quicker. Glassfish and Chilly aren't likely to do anything other than insert more sex options and choices. So it is not like they could finish the game even if Nergal offer them the opportunity. Plus... technically it is Glassfish and Nergal as it is Glassfish's art. But if you know Glassfish's story projection. It is usually single sex scenes. So I doubt Glassfish would do more than that.

So again it is not that Chilly (at best, a game editor/reviser) and Glassfish (the illustrator and scene writer) have the same capacity as Nergal at being the world-build story writer.

However, I on the other hand can supplement Nergal in this capacity. And this brings me to my second part.

What Nergal needs if he is to progress with his game much more quicker in the parts of the game he is directly responsible for and couldn't rely on Glassfish or Chilly for is someone with a grand scheme story progression planner.

Here is where his work currently stands:

Art Status: -
Code Status: 100%
Eventing Status: 40%
Dialogue Status: 0%

Eventing is the stuff that requires collaboration with Glassfish. The dialogue can also be done by Glassfish, but it would involve solely individual scenes and not how these scenes are connected. I have the capacity to do this for Nergal. So working with Glassfish to get the eventing done with. Getting all of the dialogue done with some input and advice from Glassfish and/or Chilly can be done as well.

The main interest for Nergal as the mastermind is to be the guy who has the final say. The publisher. As long as he has the final say and I work with him over enough time to have a feel for what he would go for in terms of dialogue and event progression, then he can spend less time doing too so much work in areas that he doesn't have to do. Best thing is that I don't require pay. I know Glassfish and Nergal have a sort of pay for commission relationship which comes in part from the donations on patreon he receives. I am a great adult story writer and since I am a communist, I don't want to be paid for my work. '

However, I don't think Nergal would hire me even though I would just be a volunteer dialogue writer to help finish his work for him.
 
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^ Bro, no offense, but you don't know shit about how development works here, if it works at all again. The 'status' you've posted, as well as the Trello, are irrelevant and both haven't been updated in quite a while.

'Eventing' requires no collaboration with Glassfish. Glassfish doesn't write ANYTHING. Glassfish doesn't DO anything in RPGMaker. Glassfish is JUST the artist, they get instructions on what to art/animate, and Nergal does everything else.
'Eventing' means making the event nodes in RPGMaker. However, the actual scenes aren't even handled by those directly, Nergal uses his own scripts written in RGSS to handle specific files (in the 'Scenes' folder) - and the scenes can be text-edited easily even in Notepad, so if you wanna write better scenes... go ahead and do that.

Nergal is the... publisher? What??? He's the DEVELOPER, and, like I said, the only person doing the actual writing, 'programming' (if working in RPGMaker including scripting can be called that...)
However, I agree that he is a poor writer. The writing, scenes especially, are pathetic in this game, but it's perfectly good enough for most of the target audience... just look at the quality of most posts on this thread and you'll understand. I can't wholly blame his skill though, time constraints are a thing, and it's better to just copy a couple of 'O YEAH FUCK ME I LOVE THIS' pseudo-sentences than write a whole couple of paragraphs for EVERY scene variant (there's a lot of those).

That being said, I don't think Nergal is interested in hiring writers. If he was, he would've done that already.
 
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Pillepalle

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Okay I don't really get this game.

First time player here, I'm kinda stuck and I think I don't really understand how the game works.

Mom has a quest 'Mom Shower' which tells me to wait and see (after showering with her for the first time). At night she comes to MC's bed, but doesn't do anything... the same thing happens every night. I cheated corruption to max with the ingame command, so shouldn't the scene continue? Is it percentage based and im getting unlucky? I tried several times already. Or is it tied to her heart level? It's 'shocked' atm, but i assum the shower quest was how to raise that level.

Similair with the Sister. I am the point where she wants to mess with the PC and hides under the desk when you tell her you go out. Turn on porn, but she doesn't give him a BJ, instead it something like 'need to corrupt her more' shows up... but corruption is already max?! What am I supposed to do?

They both also have the quest 'Slow Fall', but I have no Idea what to do there, talking doesn't progress anything.
 
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MegamanMegas said:
Working collaboratively makes the game's production occur quicker. Glassfish and Chilly aren't likely to do anything other than insert more sex options and choices. So it is not like they could finish the game even if Nergal offer them the opportunity. Plus... technically it is Glassfish and Nergal as it is Glassfish's art. But if you know Glassfish's story projection. It is usually single sex scenes. So I doubt Glassfish would do more than that.

So again it is not that Chilly (at best, a game editor/reviser) and Glassfish (the illustrator and scene writer) have the same capacity as Nergal at being the world-build story writer.

However, I on the other hand can supplement Nergal in this capacity. And this brings me to my second part.

What Nergal needs if he is to progress with his game much more quicker in the parts of the game he is directly responsible for and couldn't rely on Glassfish or Chilly for is someone with a grand scheme story progression planner.

Here is where his work currently stands:

Art Status: -
Code Status: 100%
Eventing Status: 40%
Dialogue Status: 0%

Eventing is the stuff that requires collaboration with Glassfish. The dialogue can also be done by Glassfish, but it would involve solely individual scenes and not how these scenes are connected. I have the capacity to do this for Nergal. So working with Glassfish to get the eventing done with. Getting all of the dialogue done with some input and advice from Glassfish and/or Chilly can be done as well.

The main interest for Nergal as the mastermind is to be the guy who has the final say. The publisher. As long as he has the final say and I work with him over enough time to have a feel for what he would go for in terms of dialogue and event progression, then he can spend less time doing too so much work in areas that he doesn't have to do. Best thing is that I don't require pay. I know Glassfish and Nergal have a sort of pay for commission relationship which comes in part from the donations on patreon he receives. I am a great adult story writer and since I am a communist, I don't want to be paid for my work. '

However, I don't think Nergal would hire me even though I would just be a volunteer dialogue writer to help finish his work for him.
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Did you actually try to use my post from 15 pages ago to try to plug yourself as a dialogue writer using a forum that the creator almost never uses?

I'm not entirely sure you're aware of the current dynamic, so I'll simply say that having such a passion and drive for the game creation is great, and I would encourage you to create your own mod or possibly find an artist to create your own game as an outlet for that creative energy. Chilly is a modder, and this is not the thread to discuss his work. Nergal is the creator of Urban Demons, and has had a great deal of activity on Discord. The most recent update is in a limited alpha test phase before public release, however Nergal and Glassfish have both made their intentions of reaching a closer stage of completion so as to allow themselves freedom to work on other projects.

Best of luck in your pursuit of development!
 
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How do I get the specific scenes with mrs. Amos and mrs.Jennings and also nurse Donna and Kaylee I don't like the but version I got it supports that
 
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foot lettuce

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is there a way to resize window, since my monitor is 1600x900 its really unpleasant playing at 1280x960, I changed to the lower resolution but it makes the graphic looks choppy.
 
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foot lettuce said:
is there a way to resize window, since my monitor is 1600x900 its really unpleasant playing at 1280x960, I changed to the lower resolution but it makes the graphic looks choppy.
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I think you'd have to wait for a mod because RPG Maker is quite fiddly when it comes to resolution.
It's easy to change but quite a lot of bugs could follow.
 
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