franckus

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>No central antagonist for the player to play as
>Unga bunga BBC black natives sterotype complete with awkward twerking
>Uglification of attractive women

This one ain't it Chief. Your other games were way better.
I have almost the same feeling

- The fact of not having a central protagonist on the other hand does not bother me

- I'm not a big fan of the basic BBC and even less with the hyper stereotyping in the game

- And as for the transformations, compared to the other 2 opus here, I find them failed / ugly / not my style

but hey, being a game out of 3 not to my taste, it's a good ratio and if for me the game sucks there are necessarily others who like it and there's something for everyone
 

Kulman

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I gotta say I am loving this change. I always felt like it would be fun watching the changes from the other side, wondering if somebody already got corrupted. Kudos for going a different route from previous games, it was frankly getting a bit stale. I always found myself skipping to the end, as it somehow got repetitive.

Really great change! Loved it. Only downside is I disliked the final transformation, but that might be just me. Also that normal route I felt cut a bit too short, would have loved to see more mystery scenes.

Frankly this formula seems like gold to me.


EDIT: for those who dont want to play everything in full route, just could "ctrl" and it should jump through stuff you already seen, only stopping at the new stuff.
 

kzk0987

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I remember Tjord saying that the transformation aspect would be very different in this game and probably more divisive.
Having no maleMC-centered harem also tends to set off a lot of people here on F95 despite you saying from day one this game wasn't going to be like that. Couple that with the kind of corruption and scenes this has and yeah... I can see this upsetting some people here. I don't really mind though, and I'd rather see devs making the games they want instead of trying to be crowd-pleasers (especially because the crowd as a whole is unpleasable, you do a thing one group likes, you upset another, as the endless discussions in the Valdana thread clearly show lmao)

Personally, between the three games I'm more of a fan of what was done in the original route of Valdana, both in terms of storyline and the looks of the girls, but I like this too, judging by the pictures (I have not advanced much in the game yet, I got curious seeing the comments and looked into the pictures file).
I also don't think the girls become ugly.

Tjord I can't help but wonder, are you a fan of Inoue Nanaki's work? Because the corruption in this looks pretty similar to what his girls end up looking like when he does
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Once I properly finish the game I'm going to give an actual opinion on the story and corruption, but I can say my previous experiences with this kind of setup for corruption were positive, even though I don't care about the whole BBC thing.
 

Tjord

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@Tjord I can't help but wonder, are you a fan of Inoue Nanaki's work?
I had to google the artist. I recognize the style, but I can't say I am a fan.

In all honesty, I am myself... not the biggest fan of girls' final forms in Valkyrie :> But I made this aesthetic choice very early, as it fit best the tone and story I was writing. And I don't think it was a mistake. It's just is that way with H games - one minor detail, one incompatiblity can be enough to make a player totally lose interest. But if I cared about that, I'd be churning vanilla incest romcoms instead of filling a niche.
 

Kulman

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For what its worth, I never really liked the male mcs that much. Maybe its just being overfed by them, but they were your typical edgy tropey villains. Though that felt kinda intended.

Here going to female mc was pretty interesting. I was really wondering where you would go with the ensign and then... hahaha. Thats what is great about playing in the dark. I was really wondering where the corruption would be. I think that FMC was perhaps a bit underutilized. You could have perhaps shown female mc changing while the others are still around, some normal thinking altered, thinking acting in certain ways is "fine" etc.

So yeah, loved the change, I also liked the setting, final form was too "tribal" for me. Specially Mao, I really liked her hair and then you get almost no scenes with the hair she had, only that weird head bush later on.

EDIT: also by going too tribal transformation, you lose that "prim high tech world girl" vs "primal savage" contrast. Personally I am always about contrast with corruption. Fat guy with a sporty girl. Neat freak with an absolute slob of a guy. Ugly bastard and an absolute model etc.
 
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JicioJ

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I share the same opinion as many others in regards to no male MC. Tribal transformations are fine, but BBC ain't my thing. Also, in Isis and Valdana, as the MC, you also felt your plans could easily be thwarted, in this one, I didn't feel that time limit and pressure. Still a good game though, just not my niche
 

Kulman

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I share the same opinion as many others in regards to no male MC. Tribal transformations are fine, but BBC ain't my thing. Also, in Isis and Valdana, as the MC, you also felt your plans could easily be thwarted, in this one, I didn't feel that time limit and pressure. Still a good game though, just not my niche
Easily thwarted? Its like watching the third harry potter movie and wondering if Harry will die. Of course the mc will win.
 

kzk0987

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I had to google the artist. I recognize the style, but I can't say I am a fan.

In all honesty, I am myself... not the biggest fan of girls' final forms in Valkyrie :> But I made this aesthetic choice very early, as it fit best the tone and story I was writing. And I don't think it was a mistake. It's just is that way with H games - one minor detail, one incompatiblity can be enough to make a player totally lose interest. But if I cared about that, I'd be churning vanilla incest romcoms instead of filling a niche.
I asked because he sometimes draws very similar corruption. Take this for instance.
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I was reminded of it.

And while I prefer other visual indicators of corruption, I do enjoy the jungle queen look. It has its own appeal.
 

Nesako Tari

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The story was pretty captivating, but I find myself hoping the "goes back to the Alliance" ending is the canon one for the next game (hopefully, there WILL be a next one). Maybe because I find the "oath" scenes and the slave markings hot beyond measure, or because I want to see more codename Nao. And I have to say, the transformations in this one, barring Andrea getting Nao'd, are a loss, aesthetically. Kathleen looked great with short hair, Mao had great hair colours, and Ellen looks a bit overdone on the size front (and her hair was great before bimbofication, too).
Anyway, this was still a pretty good game, one that got me immersed in the story and my heart pumping in anticipation of where it takes the heroines. The scenes were pretty hot too, even if they didn't click with me quite as much as the ones from your previous games (except the Alliance ending, it was great).
 

JicioJ

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Easily thwarted? Its like watching the third harry potter movie and wondering if Harry will die. Of course the mc will win.
Sure, but in Isis the MC is captured by Kobayashi and helpless, in Valdana the church is assaulted 2 or 3 times and you can see their facilities being attacked, here, except for the end, the 'corruptors' dont experience difficulties, also, the time limit was more present. In Valkyries, unless I didn't read it well, you don't have a clear time when rescue arrives. Sure, it's after the mission is complete, but as we can see, even after killing the merc, they still go on.
 
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Kulman

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Sure, but in Isis the MC is captured by Kobayashi and helpless, in Valdana the church is assaulted 2 or 3 times and you can see their facilities being attacked, here, except for the end, the 'corruptors' dont experience difficulties, also, the time limit was more present. In Valkyries, unless I didn't read it well, you don't have a clear time when rescue arrives. Sure, it's after the mission is complete, but as we can see, even after killing the merc, they still go on.
I see your point, but I felt the adverse conditions and the gradually shrinking team was a pretty dire "pressure", as shown by the leader gradually losing her calm. They also almost got away, but then decided to go for that one last clue.

Thinking more about the story, I just think that the corrupted characters should have stayed around, like they do in other games. I get why that was impossible here with the nature of the final transformation, but I think it would be much more fun. Wondering why you are getting sabotaged. Team members often leaving somewhere, suspicious stuff happening on their night watch etc. I was sad they were taken away so abruptly, just when the fun mystery stuff was getting started.
 

JicioJ

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I see your point, but I felt the adverse conditions and the gradually shrinking team was a pretty dire "pressure", as shown by the leader gradually losing her calm. They also almost got away, but then decided to go for that one last clue.

Thinking more about the story, I just think that the corrupted characters should have stayed around, like they do in other games. I get why that was impossible here with the nature of the final transformation, but I think it would be much more fun. Wondering why you are getting sabotaged. Team members often leaving somewhere, suspicious stuff happening on their night watch etc. I was sad they were taken away so abruptly, just when the fun mystery stuff was getting started.
I agree on the later point, but I meant that in this type of games I expect to see pressure tho the 'evil' ones, like Nao, Fritz and, in this case, the tribemen. Of course the valkyries were pressured. Maybe its just that i don't like this kind of corruption and im nitpicking, didn't mean to offend anyone who enjoyed the game.
 

Ogogin

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Sorry to ask, but is there a reason why the f95 mirrors have a different dimension then the link on itch.io?

Just to play safe, since the recent diffusion of malware injected games.
 
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