Unity VaM 2 [v1.1.1 Beta] [Meshed VR]

[xvAresvx]

Yeah you summed it up GJ! People that are complaining should unsub or probably aren't subbed. The people that are subbed shouldn't expect anything to be delivered for VAM 2. I'm a dirty pirate arr, I didn't pay a cent for VAM 1 XD.

but what are they complaining about? Did someone promise them something? They were told it will come out as it comes out and that's it! And no one pulled them by the balls to sign up and then whine that they weren't given something)) People made something up for themselves and then whine)

 

[gallahanjack]

but what are they complaining about? Did someone promise them something? They were told it will come out as it comes out and that's it! And no one pulled them by the balls to sign up and then whine that they weren't given something)) People made something up for themselves and then whine)

I'm not blaming Meshed or anyone. But you get a weird situation like this now where IMO if your Meshed it would be more financially rational to delay out the final release of the VAM 2 project as long as you can keep the sub count engaged. If the project is fully polished and released quickly then less subs for Meshed. The beta release we got shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[rabbit1qaz]

Firstly, he initially wrote and said repeatedly that he makes Vam2 as he likes and at the speed that suits him! He immediately said that there is no point in rushing him and you can unsubscribe if you are not satisfied! He has every right to develop as he wants! He does not depend on anyone and he is not a large studio! He gave us Vam for practically free (he does not fight piracy in any way) and you still demand something from him? He has already given us even more than anyone in the gaming industry! Now he can enjoy his success slowly making Vam2!
ps: For example, I had no illusions about Vam2 at all because from the very beginning of its release I read Meshed's post and understood that it would not be soon! and that's why I enjoy using Vam1 and it is quite enough for me! and when Vam2 comes out, then it will come out! people may have imagined castles in the air for themselves and now they reproach Mesheda for sluggishness! he alone has made a reserve for the future in Vam such that you can calmly and leisurely develop Vam2

Dont forget that part of VAM is HUB so thousands of VAM mods, servicing such a big portal with 100k users and big files to download is money consuming so its not that subscribers money are consumed only by him

 

[rabbit1qaz]

Honestly for me I don't mind VAM's graphics lol at all. I just want the morph bug to be patched, updated gens for the male model, updated patch for multithreading, + any other optimizations to make the game more stable.

you cant updated male model morphs (male in Gensesis 2 is so much inferior to female eg hole in place of anus and completely fucked up textures around it so even with nice texture you cant fix it. not that im male anus enjoyer but with certain sex angles you see it anyway )

 

[coochie_man]

I believe Mesh's development slowed down probably after the end of 2021, then less than a year ago decided to pick up progress again

I don't think anyone can expect meshed to finish this project by now
He is clearly is sole developer with less than 1-2 people? helping build the core of this game. there's nothing you can do if meshed decides to take a break or something.

Also some of you people seem to get confused when all the money and support being given is not equal to tangible progression, to think as if meshed has been advertising this game, which he has not. He uses his patreon so you can still purchase vam 1 obviously, and doesn't force anyone to stay subscribed.
Its not a crowdfunding page, He only talks about some of the progress he's made for vam 2 thats it. vam2 will eventually get its own marketing page where you can complain about the game

So if you want to blame meshed for vam2 not being completed sooner would be nonsensical. Because I know 99% of people here wouldn't have a clue on how to make such a simulation game by themselves Your'e only a mosquito watching him do the work
not only that, seeing how meshed is rebuilding vam from the ground up is pretty ambitious, you have to give him some time

Though I do wish meshed could've found a few more developers that are passionate about the project to help build this quicker. There are definitely some talented creators who are comfortable with vam that can work on basic functionality, I wonder how much faster after the 1.2 beta when plugins are available people are going to come up with solutions faster than mesh's team can handle.

 

[xvAresvx]

I'm not blaming Meshed or anyone. But you get a weird situation like this now where IMO if your Meshed it would be more financially rational to delay out the final release of the VAM 2 project as long as you can keep the sub count engaged. If the project is fully polished and released quickly then less subs for Meshed. The beta release we got shouldn't be a surprise.

he works by himself)) why interfere with his work and rush him etc.? let him do it as best he can! vam1 he did the same thing - long and hard but he finally finished it and there was no limit to the joy on reddit! he knows what he's doing so it's better not to interfere, let him do it as he likes)

 

[Anand Neemish]

My pet peeve is that ppl just do NOT understand the concept of being a patron - someone who supports an artist. It is NOT a transactional - I pay you for XYZ - type of relationship.

Some folks just want to support the artist currently known as MeshedVR. They're not shmucks. Assuming what xvAresvx said is true (I have no reason to doubt it), Meshed has been upfront that he will do this on "his time." And his patron's are supporting his life style so he can complete his art.

As for the idea of bringing on additional devs - have you ever managed people? Have you managed developers? That is a full time job in itself - dirction setting, specs, code reviews, deconflicting disagreements. Leaves almost no time for the coding.

Off soapbox. Back to pirating.

 

[coochie_man]

Not a dev, but I mean.. it feels like were only waiting for meshed to finish working on every component for this game ...
look at the trello board

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Its not an impossible job to replicate vam1 features back into vam 2, someone knows how to do it .!

 

[SinFear]

Not a dev, but I mean.. it feels like were only waiting for meshed to finish working on every component for this game ...
look at the trello board

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Its not an impossible job to replicate vam1 features back into vam 2, someone knows how to do it .!

He just needed to hire programmers and that's it

 

[x360x]

Its not a crowdfunding page,

Literally on the homepage
"VaM (Virt-a-Mate) is the premiere crowd-funded physics-based adult sandbox game created by meshedvr."

Some folks just want to support the artist currently known as MeshedVR. They're not shmucks. Assuming what xvAresvx said is true (I have no reason to doubt it), Meshed has been upfront that he will do this on "his time." And his patron's are supporting his life style so he can complete his art.

Didn't the con artist meshedvr write this announcement in 2023 on discord?

"Happy Halloween everyone! By this time next year, everyone will be creating spooky stuff in VaM2 (to clarify: in one of the VaM2 betas. I'm not sure which beta at this point, so don't ask, and the answer is SomeVersionIHaveNoClueAndISuckAtEstimatesAndAtLeastNowYouKnowTheFirstBetaIsLessThanOneYearAway™️)"

 

[hdsncvhdortunchbvlakdyuvn]

At least Meshed is honest enough to say "hey, i could delay this until 2030 or later, but without your support VAM2 wont be possible".
is almost like he has his patrons grabbed by the balls, if they support him is like putting money to a bottomless jar, but if no one does it, VAM2 will never see the light. I may be saying something stupid, but thats what i think about this.

 

[pepitomendieto]

People don't know how difficult it is to create physical collision simulation between objects and especially make all the morphs work smoothly on different characters and feel more and more real, just doing this in Unreal Engine 5 is a huge challenge to even try to match what was already achieved in VAM1, and not only in terms of physics but in hardware consumption, and now with VAM2 this will be elevated to the next level not yet seen in almost any game. In addition to the challenges of incorporating ray tracing into Unity, there are more and more challenges that make VAM2 not be launched lightly.

 

[Ditime5312]

Hello. Is there anything to do in the latest beta release or is it just proof of concept?

 

[SinFear]

Hello. Is there anything to do in the latest beta release or is it just proof of concept?

proof of concept 2022

 

[Tha D Wizzy]

Cripes the amount of Meshed yes men here sucking his dick! NO, he's not a genius, not by production standards. He's an idiot. His product is woefully behind, he's intentionally bottlenecking it to make money. He's a genius at suckering yes men out of money though! Once 2.0 comes out, AGAIN, will modders be doing the heavy lifting and giving an otherwise minimal product LIFE! It's what gives 1.0 life NOW. The modders, not him. You sit here enabling his crap and thus he does not need to "rush" a well behind product. I DO subscribe, and have been subscribed since near the beginning. "You can leave" attitudes only come when sufficient yes men surround a content creator, and they don't feel the need to produce competitively anymore. I just used 2.0 today, and this bare minimum proof of concept should have been out years ago. Awful that all this time has passed and all he's got is a Unity engine demo to show us. Which we'll have to wait for, for years, then even more for proper plugins. I HOPE that a futa option is added in the base program so that I can expedite my content. Hopefully, it doesn't take as long as 1.0 did before WeebU (modder) had to begin that process alone. I remember when all he had was using morphs to compress a male atom into the female to give her a dick lmao. Please, if you sub, remember YOU are who he answers to, or he'd be making a passion project for no charge at his own pace. He's asking for payment in exchange for YOUR money. YOU have way more say than quietly waiting at a dialysis station while your blood is drawn.

 

[TimoKloy]

not that im male anus enjoyer but with certain sex angles you see it anyway )

Yeah, sure...why would you...nevermind.

 

[ZERO88]

Let's reverse the question: How long did it take Mesh to release VAM, 2019? so I assume it would take another decade ish for him to release VAM2 but I agree with everyone, he's most likely just milking everyone until release.

 

[x360x]

Let's reverse the question: How long did it take Mesh to release VAM, 2019? so I assume it would take another decade ish for him to release VAM2 but I agree with everyone, he's most likely just milking everyone until release.

well according to reddit it should be 3 years:

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VAM1 got after that 2 more years of constant development, So it's like 5 years in total for vam1.

It's been 3-4 years since the first VAM2 alpha. And like 5 years since work switched to VAM2 in 2020.

 

[x360x]

On a happier note, I'm really impressed by how VR Hot looks. I willl check it out later, it's been a while since I last tested it. It's buggy still from what people say, but look at this:

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And VR Hot did this with a third of the funding of vamx on patreon. Not VAM, not a typo. A third (or half) of the budget of VAMX. And a tiny fraction of vam's funding. It has the "nextgen" genesis8 models of vam2 already. Clothes, hair, physics, models look better, more realistic than VAM's. He even did AI himself.

The only thing it doesn't have it's vam's modders. Period.

Those defending 5 years for this trash beta, you're in denial. What's the excuse? It's not technical. What "artist" you're talking about? It's a model poser with physics, a very clear task. Recreate vam1, but make it better performance. He did VAM1 in less time, as a hobby project. It should be faster now. Look at VR Hot, he's doing the VAM base components around the same quality or better, and for a fraction of the funding. Idk about VRHot's UX & UI, last time I checked it wasn't great but that's more about design. VAM's UI isn't great neither, but it's stable at least (with 0 game mechanics tho).

I agree with others, meshedvr could've and should've hired some other dev or devs if he lost interest to code. But he doesn't do that because he'll be milking it until he retires probably. Or until somebody else takes the modders away.

 

[Tha D Wizzy]

On a happier note, I'm really impressed by how VR Hot looks. I willl check it out later, it's been a while since I last tested it. It's buggy still from what people say, but look at this:

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And VR Hot did this with a third of the funding of vamx on patreon. Not VAM, not a typo. A third (or half) of the budget of VAMX. And a tiny fraction of vam's funding. It has the "nextgen" genesis8 models of vam2 already. Clothes, hair, physics, models look better, more realistic than VAM's. He even did AI himself.

The only thing it doesn't have it's vam's modders. Period.

Those defending 5 years for this trash beta, you're in denial. What's the excuse? It's not technical. What "artist" you're talking about? It's a model poser with physics, a very clear task. Recreate vam1, but make it better performance. He did VAM1 in less time, as a hobby project. It should be faster now. Look at VR Hot, he's doing the VAM base components around the same quality or better, and for a fraction of the funding. Idk about VRHot's UX & UI, last time I checked it wasn't great but that's more about design. VAM's UI isn't great neither, but it's stable at least (with 0 game mechanics tho).

I agree with others, meshedvr could've and should've hired some other dev or devs if he lost interest to code. But he doesn't do that because he'll be milking it until he retires probably. Or until somebody else takes the modders away.

Looks pretty good and they even have something to show for it. If they were able to start securing modders they could well be a competitor, forcing capitalism to shine in competition. Already looking like VaM 2.0, which they could beat if they release beforeMeshed does. It'll still be awile lmao.