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She has never had anal sex in her past
Are you sure to play the same game i started today?
What you are talking about?

She comes from a small country town and her boyfriend is Lucas
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The first time she has sex in the big city is with Michael and she only does it if you go the Bad Girl route View attachment 4682741 View attachment 4682742
Where did you come up with that Victoria has had anal sex in the past?
She says here that she has never seen a cock that big...why are you spewing all this bullshit?
do you want to derail this thread into nonsense, as you always do?

This is the first time Victoria is having sex outside her engagement with Lucas...

Do you want start your usual crusade against the loser boyfriend?

please stop wrinting nonsense.

Cheers
You completely misunderstood what Zara was saying. She never claimed that Victoria had anal sex in her past, like before the events of the game. What she pointed out is that Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, then later at his club, and with Ben in the morning after the evening at the theater). So that's past tense within the game’s timeline, yet she still acts like it's her first time.

That’s the issue she’s bringing up – the inconsistency in Victoria’s behavior.
 

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You completely misunderstood what Zara was saying. She never claimed that Victoria had anal sex in her past, like before the events of the game. What she pointed out is that Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, then later at his club, and with Ben in the morning after the evening at the theater). So that's past tense within the game’s timeline, yet she still acts like it's her first time.

That’s the issue she’s bringing up – the inconsistency in Victoria’s behavior.
What should Victoria do? Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:
...Do you think the scene would become better that way?
I'm sorry, but I disagree with ZARA!
The sex scenes in this game are top quality... full of details, different camera angles.... they are long to the perfect length, and include very hot dialogues...
I know girls who do the same when they have anal sex.... I don't agree when people complain about the MC's personality.

In the past I had anal sex with my first girlfriend who would not admit to feeling anything about anal sex...I would ask her am I hurting you?...and she would simply say NO.... go harder... while my wife reacted to anal sex as if she had never done it.... every girl has her own character
I think this is part of each person's individual personality.... especially porn actresses are very careful to emphasize the difference by exaggerating their moans and phrases.... while I repeat in the real world sometimes even to avoid being overheard by other house guests...we often tend to fuck in a way that doesn't make too much noise....

So the point is that each person has their own personality... and anal sex is an unnatural way of having sex... for some women it might be humiliating, in any case the asshole is made for getting things out not in... ;) it can be painful een for girls that have done anal many times (some girl said me that if you do anal sex often can be more painful ... can depend by nany different things...
if you do too much exercize your muscles become sore
To clarify now I personal prefer to have only vaginal sex with girls bc it is more “poetic/romantic”...
..I admit that in porn it can be exciting to watch a woman have anal sex, but in reality I have learned that to do this she has to prepare herself well by cleansing with a good enema before doing it.... this fact reduces the poetic atmosphere and spontaneity if you are with your girlfriend, by making the sexual intercourse mechanical and professional..
Spontaneity is very important in sex with your wife...

it's another thing if you choose to have sex with professional escorts who always well prepared for anal and more, but I don't have to be the one to tell them that I want to have anal sex because the girls I pay already know how to be getting ready... and most importantly, you will never smell a bad smell of shit when you pay for fancy prostitutes... they are the same as the porn actresses.

Fortunately, we are talking about 3d models here...but I disagree with Zara's point of view
she write nonsense in this argument!!!

This game is perfect as it is!
We are talking about scenes in porno game... Victoria behaviour during sex scenes is perfect since the beginning!
I really hope that Victoria will never become a broken ass-old-whore who doesn't react when they stick cocks and whole arms into her asshole as if by now her anus is completely prolapsed...

What I read in Zara's post seemed very insulting to me towards this beautiful 3D model called Victoria Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 14.21.22.jpg
This is a classy woman and it is precisely the contrast with her class and purity in always finding it amazing to have sex as if it were the first time that makes Victoria's personality irresistibly attractive
So Zara complaining about Vic's behavior during anal sex (whether it is the first or the tenth time) in my opinion is senseless!.... This is Vic's personality.... not that of a prolapsed bagasse old whore.

I never complain on MC personality in the game i love!!!
I don't like games where the MC has multiple personalities depending on the player's choices. these MCs are just schizophrenic!:cool:

PS; then to be clear before you get to have a prolapsed anus do you know how much pain you have to endure?...go to onlyfans there are girls who tell of the pain they have felt and continue to feel when they insert monstrous dildos in their ass.... and they have to rest for weeks and months if they overdo it
 
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What should Victoria do? Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:
...Do you think the scene would become better that way?
I'm sorry, but I disagree with ZARA!
The sex scenes in this game are top quality... full of details, different camera angles.... they are long to the perfect length, and include very hot dialogues...
I know girls who do the same when they have anal sex.... I don't agree when people complain about the MC's personality.

In the past I had anal sex with my first girlfriend who would not admit to feeling anything about anal sex...I would ask her am I hurting you?...and she would simply say NO.... go harder... while my wife reacted to anal sex as if she had never done it.... every girl has her own character
I think this is part of each person's individual personality.... especially porn actresses are very careful to emphasize the difference by exaggerating their moans and phrases.... while I repeat in the real world sometimes even to avoid being overheard by other house guests...we often tend to fuck in a way that doesn't make too much noise....

So the point is that each person has their own personality... and anal sex is an unnatural way of having sex... for some women it might be humiliating, in any case the asshole is made for getting things out not in... ;) it can be painful een for girls that have done anal many times (some girl said me that if you do anal sex often can be more painful ... can depend by nany different things...
if you do too much exercize your muscles become sore
To clarify now I personal prefer to have only vaginal sex with girls bc it is more “poetic/romantic”...
..I admit that in porn it can be exciting to watch a woman have anal sex, but in reality I have learned that to do this she has to prepare herself well by cleansing with a good enema before doing it.... this fact reduces the poetic atmosphere and spontaneity if you are with your girlfriend, by making the sexual intercourse mechanical and professional..
Spontaneity is very important in sex with your wife...

it's another thing if you choose to have sex with professional escorts who always well prepared for anal and more, but I don't have to be the one to tell them that I want to have anal sex because the girls I pay already know how to be getting ready... and most importantly, you will never smell a bad smell of shit when you pay for fancy prostitutes... they are the same as the porn actresses.

Fortunately, we are talking about 3d models here...but I disagree with Zara's point of view
she write nonsense in this argument!!!

This game is perfect as it is!
We are talking about scenes in porno game... Victoria behaviour during sex scenes is perfect since the beginning!
I really hope that Victoria will never become a broken ass-old-whore who doesn't react when they stick cocks and whole arms into her asshole as if by now her anus is completely prolapsed...

What I read in Zara's post seemed very insulting to me towards this beautiful 3D model called Victoria View attachment 4692502
This is a classy woman and it is precisely the contrast with her class and purity in always finding it amazing to have sex as if it were the first time that makes Victoria's personality irresistibly attractive
So Zara complaining about Vic's behavior during anal sex (whether it is the first or the tenth time) in my opinion is senseless!.... This is Vic's personality.... not that of a prolapsed bagasse old whore.

I never complain on MC personality in the game i love!!!
I don't like games where the MC has multiple personalities depending on the player's choices. these MCs are just schizophrenic!:cool:

PS; then to be clear before you get to have a prolapsed anus do you know how much pain you have to endure?...go to onlyfans there are girls who tell of the pain they have felt and continue to feel when they insert monstrous dildos in their ass.... and they have to rest for weeks and months if they overdo it
Wow, that was quite a monologue. But you’re missing the point entirely. Nobody is saying that Victoria should act like a „broken ass-old-whore” (your words, not mine). Zara simply pointed out a continuity issue in the game’s script.

Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, later at his club, and with Ben after the theater night). Yet, in this scene, she reacts as if it’s her first time ever. That’s a storytelling inconsistency, not a question of whether every woman reacts the same way to anal.

You went on a tangent about real-life experiences, escorts, and „romantic” sex, which are completely irrelevant to the discussion. This is about in-game character consistency, not personal preferences or real-life comparisons.

You may love the game as it is, and that’s fine. But pointing out a narrative inconsistency isn’t „nonsense” – it’s just discussing the writing quality. No need to get so defensive.
 

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Wow, that was quite a monologue. But you’re missing the point entirely. Nobody is saying that Victoria should act like a „broken ass-old-whore” (your words, not mine). Zara simply pointed out a continuity issue in the game’s script.

Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, later at his club, and with Ben after the theater night). Yet, in this scene, she reacts as if it’s her first time ever. That’s a storytelling inconsistency, not a question of whether every woman reacts the same way to anal.

You went on a tangent about real-life experiences, escorts, and „romantic” sex, which are completely irrelevant to the discussion. This is about in-game character consistency, not personal preferences or real-life comparisons.

You may love the game as it is, and that’s fine. But pointing out a narrative inconsistency isn’t „nonsense” – it’s just discussing the writing quality. No need to get so defensive.
Agreed. Zara shared her own experiences and she just compared it with Victoria thus how the writing is strange, but it's interesting how he thinks he knows a woman's body better then a woman herself.
 

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that was quite a monologue. But you’re missing the point entirely. Nobody is saying that Victoria should act like a „broken ass-old-whore”
I said this and i confirm... ... but here is the Zara sentence
as you can see she talks about pain as if after having sex 4 times, Victoria has to pose as an anal slut.
this is not only offensive to a woman but it is false....
pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation!
And it's like she doesn't realise that the pain can turn to pleasure. When she's already experienced that several times already. I brought these points up in the past to the Dev, and it's disappointing that he still hasn't changed these anal scenes to reflect Victoria's previous experiences
pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation! (As in the case of a poker room in front of strangers.)
in the experience of a female friend of mine with whom I had anal sex...if the size of the object you insert causes pain...the pain continues also in other times...of course pain is also pleasure but...what you think during penetration is always the same... is fear mixed with pain and pleasure.

tell me then. suggest how Vic should behave--too easy to complain.... come on give me an example of what Victoria should say for the scene can be even more exciting
 

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he knows a woman's body better then a woman herself.
I know my wife... and the girls I had in my past!
Have you ever talked about sex with your woman?
it's just that every woman has her own personality-every person is different and reacts differently
Victoria has a very specific personality
 

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I said this and i confirm... ... but here is the Zara sentence
as you can see she talks about pain as if after having sex 4 times, Victoria has to pose as an anal slut.
this is not only offensive to a woman but it is false....
pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation!

pain during the insertion of a cock into the anus is always felt...it depends on the position and the tension of the muscles that can be contracted in an awkward situation! (As in the case of a poker room in front of strangers.)
in the experience of a female friend of mine with whom I had anal sex...if the size of the object you insert causes pain...the pain continues also in other times...of course pain is also pleasure but...what you think during penetration is always the same... is fear mixed with pain and pleasure.

tell me then. suggest how Vic should behave--too easy to complain.... come on give me an example of what Victoria should say for the scene can be even more exciting
You keep missing the point. Zara never said Victoria should act like an "anal slut" (your words, not hers). The issue is that her behavior contradicts her past experiences. Victoria had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene, yet every time she acts as if it's her first. That’s a lack of logical continuity, not a matter of pain always being present.

You keep talking about real-life experiences, but this is a VN. And in a VN, character consistency matters. You even said, "I don’t agree when people complain about the MC's personality," which makes no sense in this genre. The whole point of a VN is to connect with the characters, and that’s only possible if they have well-written and coherent personalities. If Victoria’s reactions ignore her past experiences, it breaks immersion.

And no, it's not up to players to rewrite the scenes. A single line of dialogue could have fixed this inconsistency. Something like: "I know what to expect, but it still feels so intense." Instead, the game treats it like it's her first time over and over again, which makes no sense.

So no, the complaint isn’t "nonsense"—it’s basic storytelling logic.
 

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Hope we can back to talk about the game avoiding stupid PT
every girl is different. some like it, some don't ;) i rather peg a guy in the ass, than take one back there ever again. i prefer vaginal :p
I'm over 50... so... now I prefer vagina... I already explain why in my previous post

thanks to be interested in me...

but stop with this stupid OT..
I said my opinion about Zara and the pain during anal sex even it was not the first time...
The way Vic acts is very attractive and changing it would not improve that scene.

But back to the game

I would really like to make a request to GrooversGames
Every time I see her I am undecided which one is the most beautiful Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 16.24.41.jpg

is Katy better than Victoria?
I really hope that in the next update Victoria will go with Katy during the filming of one of her porn movies.... I can't wait for Victoria to talk to Katy about the porn world
You keep missing the point. Zara never said Victoria should act like an "anal slut" (your words, not hers). The issue is that her behavior contradicts her past experiences. Victoria had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene, yet every time she acts as if it's her first. That’s a lack of logical continuity, not a matter of pain always being present.
I'm not missing a shit!!! please stop or I have to put you in my black list

I don't see any lack of logic
Excuse me , I understand that you are defending Zara... but she said bullshit in that sentence I quoted... you are continuing an unnecessary war... because.... what should Victoria say?
Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:

should she say all the names of the men she had anal sex with?
We players know this but there is no way that a girl who has never had sex with people in the poker scene should act like someone who habitually has anal sex
She is working as waitress for the first time for men and.. they are perfect strangers
that would be totally illogical
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I told you what the scene would look like

Here I will post some pics from the Poker scene...
I do not see nothing out of logic in Victoria dialogues

In this scene she has sex with strangers for the first time....
what Zara said in her post makes no sense!!!

SHE IS HAVING SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH TONY AND OTHER POCKER PLAYERS
just before Vic had sex in the bathroom...what was she supposed to say.... PUT DICKS IN MY ASS?

Vic is not A porn start (YET) the dialogues are perfect Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.04.38.jpg Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.05.52.jpg
AND KELLY is a porn star and act like Victoria? you never see Kelly how you can say that she has never be fucked in the ass? Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.07.10.jpg Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.15.59.jpg
Victoria is perfect with her personality!!! Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.10.57.jpg Screenshot 2025-03-29 at 17.17.01.jpg
I'm sorry for you and Zara but this scene is perfect and fits with the personality of Victoria...
She is having that experience for the first time!!!

she is watching her colleague Kelly's double penetration for the first time
what should she do? Behave like as a porno actress?

She is not yet...

Zara post has no sense!! Victoria has a pudic personality and she has Lucas as her boyfriend!
She will not change her prudish so easily... it is too soon in any case
She will be forever prudish, especially when she meets new men for the first time!
 
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Hope we can back to talk about the game avoiding stupid PT

I'm over 50... so... now I prefer vagina... I already explain why in my previous post

thanks to be interested in me...

but stop with this stupid OT..
I said my opinion about Zara and the pain during anal sex even it was not the first time...
The way Vic acts is very attractive and changing it would not improve that scene.

But back to the game

I would really like to make a request to GrooversGames
Every time I see her I am undecided which one is the most beautiful View attachment 4692820

is Katy better than Victoria?
I really hope that in the next update Victoria will go with Katy during the filming of one of her porn movies.... I can't wait for Victoria to talk to Katy about the porn world

I'm not missing a shit!!! please stop or I have to put you in my black list

I don't see any lack of logic
Excuse me , I understand that you are defending Zara... but she said bullshit in that sentence I quoted... you are continuing an unnecessary war... because.... what should Victoria say?
Should she say;
“Come on guys, put your cocks inside my asshole because I've already given it to 4 men in the past days and so you have to put 3 of them inside me otherwise I can't feel anything!” :eek:

should she say all the names of the men she had anal sex with?
We players know this but there is no way that a girl who has never had sex with people in the poker scene should act like someone who habitually has anal sex
She is working as waitress for the first time for men and.. they are perfect strangers
that would be totally illogical
------
I told you what the scene would look like

Here I will post some pics from the Poker scene...
I do not see nothing out of logic in Victoria dialogues

In this scene she has sex with strangers for the first time....
what Zara said in her post makes no sense!!!

SHE IS HAVING SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH TONY AND OTHER POCKER PLAYERS
just before Vic had sex in the bathroom...what was she supposed to say.... PUT DICKS IN MY ASS?




I'm sorry for you and Zara but this scene is perfect and fits with the personality of Victoria...
She is having that experience for the first time!!!

she is watching her colleague Kelly's double penetration for the first time
what should she do? Behave like as a porno actress?

She is not yet...

Zara post has no sense!! Victoria has a pudic personality and she has Lucas as her boyfriend!
She will not change her prudish so easily... it is too soon in any case
She will be forever prudish, especially when she meets new men for the first time!
You're still missing the point. No one is saying that Victoria should suddenly start talking like a pornstar or listing the names of the men she had anal sex with. That's just a strawman argument you're making.

Also, let’s be clear—I’m not "defending" Zara just for the sake of it. I don’t know her, and I don’t need to defend her. The point is, her argument actually makes sense and is based on logic. Whether I agree with her on everything is another matter, but in this case, she is absolutely right.

Zara’s point was simple: Victoria already had anal sex multiple times before. That means her body and mind should not react as if it's her very first time ever. Of course, the situation is new, but that doesn’t reset her past experiences. You yourself wrote, "pain is always felt during insertion, but it depends on the situation and muscle tension." That’s exactly why her reactions should evolve – her body should remember previous experiences, just like in real life.

And regarding your other statement: "I don’t agree when people complain about the MC's personality." This is a Visual Novel. The MC’s personality is one of the most important aspects of the story. If something feels inconsistent, players will naturally notice it.

Also, calling Victoria "prudish" doesn’t make sense when she’s already had multiple anal experiences in a short time. A prudish person wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. So which is it? Either she’s inexperienced and naive, or she’s already experimenting with different things. You can’t have it both ways.

You keep saying that everything is "perfect" and there’s "nothing out of logic," but you ignore the actual criticism and just repeat the same points over and over.
 

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You're still missing the point. No one is saying that Victoria should suddenly start talking like a pornstar or listing the names of the men she had anal sex with. That's just a strawman argument you're making.

Also, let’s be clear—I’m not "defending" Zara just for the sake of it. I don’t know her, and I don’t need to defend her. The point is, her argument actually makes sense and is based on logic. Whether I agree with her on everything is another matter, but in this case, she is absolutely right.

Zara’s point was simple: Victoria already had anal sex multiple times before. That means her body and mind should not react as if it's her very first time ever. Of course, the situation is new, but that doesn’t reset her past experiences. You yourself wrote, "pain is always felt during insertion, but it depends on the situation and muscle tension." That’s exactly why her reactions should evolve – her body should remember previous experiences, just like in real life.

And regarding your other statement: "I don’t agree when people complain about the MC's personality." This is a Visual Novel. The MC’s personality is one of the most important aspects of the story. If something feels inconsistent, players will naturally notice it.

Also, calling Victoria "prudish" doesn’t make sense when she’s already had multiple anal experiences in a short time. A prudish person wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. So which is it? Either she’s inexperienced and naive, or she’s already experimenting with different things. You can’t have it both ways.

You keep saying that everything is "perfect" and there’s "nothing out of logic," but you ignore the actual criticism and just repeat the same points over and over.
Seriously dude...do yourself a favour and walk away now....
 
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Victoria has already had three anal sex scenes before the poker scene (with Michael, later at his club, and with Ben after the theater night).
I think it was also possible to have it in the swimming pool with the couple who hire Victoria as a nanny, but with the reworking they may have changed it :unsure:.
 
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