VN Ren'Py Victoria in Big City [v0.6.5] [Groovers Games]

[caleb100]

I fear you may be right - we've been waiting for this update for how long? And it only featured a scene with 1 "old" character, and 1 "new" one. And as much as I enjoy Ben's path - nobody else got anything.

Just yesterday, on the game's Discord, I was arguing how every game (even these FMC Corruption AVNs) needs to work towards an ending - and with 0.6.5, we should be somewhere near the half-point at least.

You can imagine how many fans stepped in and said they just want more of Veronica, no matter how long the game lasts .

I think this game will keep drifting aimlessly for the next year, each update only adding more and more characters and "paths"... until the dev gets bored and wraps it up in 1 or 2 updates in a rush.

Adding so many characters and situations possible never worked out well: BaDIK shouldn't be a standard to aspire to - but a warning what to avoid.

I agree. I used to like games like Anna exciting affection or Fashion Business but they are like endless tv series. They are artificially prolonged to earn money. There is nothing wrong with that and many players are ok with it. However, many times the female protagonist is simultaneously a street whore, stripper, escort, works as a corpo top manager that fucks clients to sign good contracts. I know it is just a porn game but it is ridiculous. Endless loop of mindless encounters in order to create situation for sex scene.

 

[Filipis]

That's a matter of opinion. Most patrons are quite happy for their favourite game, to go on and on. Very few of them look forward to it ending, even if inevitably it will. A lot of people on this site forget, that Devs are primarily concerned with satisfying their patrons, because they depend on them for much or all of their income. And if they're mostly saying they want the game to carry on for as long as possible, Devs would be stupid to ignore that. Obviously, there are other considerations, such as burnout and wanting to try new things at some point in the future. But don't assume that everyone agrees with your point of view. Because many patrons are along for the journey, no matter how long that is.

Yes, I am fully aware that gooners want to goon. I myself am one of them; but don't you think this fervor for "moar content" contributes to the slop published today?

I understand the need for a quick wank on occasion, but if all you're interested in is watching sexy renders, there are plenty of such creators making them in way higher quality than what is available in your average AVN.

Adult Visual Novels should be used to tell a story - a chance for creators to show off their writing skills in combination with erotica; in turn, fans want to be immersed into the story that elevates the experience of their preferred fetish.

Call me a dreamer, but the latter is what AVNs are supposed to be about.

Breaking Bad isn't one of the best TV shows in history because it ran for 10 seasons, but because it told a compelling & intricate story in 5.

 

[Jokr_]

It's about the facade of choice.

A lot of games with "choices" in them should really just be kinetic novels, because it's clear the creator wants the MC to go a certain route, but they try to add in different paths to satisfy people. They know some people don't want to hook up with a swinger couple, or some weird old man, and the choices are the attempt to appeal to that. But that's not what the creator *wants* to do, and it shows, especially in the lesbian choices in this game that have yet to produce anything of interest outside of a fantasy.

I totally agree with you here, there should be choices to avoid or carry on with a specific path specially when the KINETIC NOVEL tag is not added. But sadly that's been a norm with most of the games nowadays, they start off well giving good vibes and then down the line they forget all that and start the same kinetic novel bs making the girl do random shit with random people which I also don't like and just makes the story part useless. I have multiple times said in numerous threads that games like this where the user does not have a choice (AT SOME POINT), the kinetic novel tag SHOULD be added to it, but of course one voice cannot make any difference.

Considering this game comes out almost once every year lol its hard for me to believe that the creator does not have "time" to make choices for each path. That just means they don't care about the paths and the game will go in one particular direction, totally breaking the concept of non kinetic novels

 

[Saerwen]

I agree. I used to like games like Anna exciting affection or Fashion Business but they are like endless tv series. They are artificially prolonged to earn money. There is nothing wrong with that and many players are ok with it. However, many times the female protagonist is simultaneously a street whore, stripper, escort, works as a corpo top manager that fucks clients to sign good contracts. I know it is just a porn game but it is ridiculous. Endless loop of mindless encounters in order to create situation for sex scene.

Having choices are important and often you can't choose how you want your FMC to behave, it seems all they are capable is to be live pocket pussies. However, isn't that the purpose of playing as a slut/whore? To gobble cocks left and right. I see comments of players cheering for FMC to become a nympho but then they complain how it's not interesting anymore. Then why are they keep playing them?

 

[caleb100]

Having choices are important and often you can't choose how you want your FMC to behave, it seems all they are capable is to be live pocket pussies. However, isn't that the purpose of playing as a slut/whore? To gobble cocks left and right. I see comments of players cheering for FMC to become a nympho but then they complain how it's not interesting anymore. Then why are they keep playing them?

I know and I am hypocritical here. I also belong to the group that enjoys gradual corruption of female character. I am grateful that there are devs creating this type of game. It must be very difficult, over time, to create good buildup for the sex scene that also makes sense within the plot. Recently I played the game Stay Online and when it runs out of probably all expected scenarios, it simply ends. I was disappointed and wanted it to continue but perhaps it ended where it should have.

 

[Roerdin]

Just played the 6.5.
Totally worth the wait.
All I can say is that "mystery girl" should have her own damn story development, if not her own game.
Well, I can't discount Victoria's "education," today ... and in the past. Kudos to the shopping scene, too.

 

[Charroumane]

Enh, wanting to please as many people as possible, it seems to me that the developer risks creating the opposite effect.
Some paths, such as the lesbian route, are a blatant example. I agree with the previous post. Some decisions prove that the author doesn't prioritize this decision, and we end up in complete nonsense. Personally, I opted for the lesbian side, and nothing goes right or progresses. The MC is great, and seeing that there was a girls-only route pushed me to play because I don't want to see abuse or degradation, to see a girl become an object... as has been the trend in many AVNs for over a year, and it's going further and further in this. In short, I played it even though I wouldn't have done so without this tag! But I don't find myself at all, even though there are so many good things in the production of this AVN. If the lesbian aspect ever evolves, I will happily follow it again, otherwise it's a shame!

 

[alinoris]

Soon Windows 10 as well (already is for a lot of games), as no point in keeping support for it as it's being phased out as well.

I see Renpy from ver. 8.4 requires at least Win10, just like the latest versions of Python.
I've found some new Python versions modded to work under Win7, but I guess installing them would be useless to make games like this work under Win7 (...?).
Anyway, I perfectly understand that Win7 is very old and unsupported, but as many ppl (like me, sigh) still use it, it would be great to have "something" (a patch, or a recode into older versions of renpy, if possible ofc) allowing to play such content.

P.S. To Mods: if this is OT, please remove the post (and sorry)

 

[Michael_MAN]

I understand the need for a quick wank on occasion, but if all you're interested in is watching sexy renders, there are plenty of such creators making them in way higher quality than what is available in your average AVN.

Adult Visual Novels should be used to tell a story - a chance for creators to show off their writing skills in combination with erotica; in turn, fans want to be immersed into the story that elevates the experience of their preferred fetish.

On the other hand there are games like AWAM, DeLuca (lol, abandoned already), Ms.Denvers and so on where the devs consider themselves a Hollywood screenwriter to say the least and absolutely fail to deliver any erotics and are just constantly blueballing and milking fans with their quite average non-adult plots.

Adult Visual Novels should be used to show erotic and sex scenes alongside the story.

 

[Quaso00]

Updated

Can you update your port with gallery unlock mod? Thank you

 

[Filipis]

On the other hand there are games like AWAM, DeLuca (lol, abandoned already), Ms.Denvers and so on where the devs consider themselves a Hollywood screenwriter to say the least and absolutely fail to deliver any erotics and are just constantly blueballing and milking fans with their quite average non-adult plots.

Adult Visual Novels should be used to show erotic and sex scenes alongside the story.

Well, yes. I don't see how those examples run contrary to my point - that we are talking about Adult Visual Novels, and that failing at the novel part means the 8K renders do nothing for me.

You need both - renders to show the erotica, and the story to tell the erotica.

 

[SteelyDan14]

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@7767 Please remove the Gallery MOD link from the OP as I am no long supporting it. The Dev has added a current scene gallery and it seems redundant.

Thanks!

 

[rlduck]

Another great update - I'm curious what Katy is all into and her acting weird and the person that almost hit Vicky was there - she might know something - I hope she wasn't in on it

 

[TedMaul]

I'm starting to think a move to the Big City isn't really paying off for these ladies

 

[Thickgravy49]

I'm starting to think a move to the Big City isn't really paying off for these ladies

Whaddya mean? It's going absolutely great from what I can see.

I hope they get fucked from one end of the 'Big City' to the other, then back again.

 

[tarzan999]

This game is good, but far away from great. Too much fucking and not enough corruption/teasing/focus on the fetishes.

 

[SteelyDan14]

This game is good, but far away from great. Too much fucking and not enough corruption/teasing/focus on the fetishes.

I agree, it has become something of a fuckfest. I know some peeps don't like the slow burn, but I like to see the FMC struggle a bit and be uncomfortable. There was some internal debate early on, but it is all but gone now.

Still, it's a solid entry in corruption games.

 

[tarzan999]

I agree, it has become something of a fuckfest. I know some peeps don't like the slow burn, but I like to see the FMC struggle a bit and be uncomfortable. There was some internal debate early on, but it is all but gone now.

Still, it's a solid entry in corruption games.

This is the Ubisoft or Marvel of corruption games. Sure it looks good on paper, but there is not a lot of substance here so people with more experience just get annoyed at the fact that mediocrity is rewarded by people who just a year or 2 in the future will hate it just as much as we do.

 

[isumadu600]

Update Release – Victoria in Big City 0.65

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Hi everyone,

I’m happy to announce that the newest update of Victoria in Big City is now live! This release officially opens Chapter 4 of Victoria’s story and is titled Echoes of the Past.

This chapter delves into Victoria’s memories—fragments of the past that will have an impact on the present, something you’ll see unfold more clearly in the next updates. Alongside this, we’re continuing several previously established storylines while also laying the groundwork for new ones.

New Features:

• Replay Gallery:
  After unlocking a scene in the story, you can now revisit your favorite moments anytime.
• Basic Sound Design:
  This update introduces the first version of the game’s audio layer. While simple for now (ambient sounds and effects), this is the start of a more immersive experience that will continue to grow with future releases.
• Brazilian Portuguese Translation:
  A huge thanks to #Marcosdrummond for translating the game into Brazilian Portuguese!
  Marcos also runs a great YouTube channel with mainstream games. If you’re interested in more gaming content, check out his channel here:
  
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Changelog for version 0.65:

• Scene: Conversation with Ben in the café
• Scene: Trying on lingerie
• ❓ Scene: Katy's mysterious friend
• Scene: Bumping into an old friend at the park (new character: Tommy)
• Scene: College flashback (new characters: Tommy, Sabrina, Clay)
• Scene: Carly’s painting competition (intro scene)
• ️ Added Replay Gallery – Rewatch unlocked scenes anytime
• Added basic sound effects and ambient noise
• Fixed several minor bugs from the previous version
• Added Brazilian Portuguese translation

A Few Words of Thanks

As always, thank you to the entire team supporting the game’s development and to you, the community, for making this project possible. Your support helps the game not only continue—but grow into something more with every update.

If you come across any bugs or technical issues, please feel free to report them—the best place to do that is on our Discord server. Your feedback helps keep the experience smooth for everyone.

More content is coming soon, and I hope you enjoy this new chapter in Victoria’s journey.

Warm regards,

Groover

I didn't find any music when we start from beginning. Is there no music or it has?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

It's about the facade of choice.

A lot of games with "choices" in them should really just be kinetic novels, because it's clear the creator wants the MC to go a certain route, but they try to add in different paths to satisfy people. They know some people don't want to hook up with a swinger couple, or some weird old man, and the choices are the attempt to appeal to that. But that's not what the creator *wants* to do, and it shows, especially in the lesbian choices in this game that have yet to produce anything of interest outside of a fantasy.

Yet it's also in the ways you keep getting stuck going to dinner with certain guys, or "randomly" running into them, even though you haven't expressed interest in them through the choices that were provided. How the MC fangirls over one of the guys, and when you choose not to ask him out, she chastises herself, wondering if the made the right choice. So it's clear you're *supposed* to go ask him out, it's intended for you to do so, though you're given the opportunity not to. There's quite a few examples of this.

If you don't want your MC to be bisexual/lesbian, then don't make her like that. If you want people to watch every scene, then make it kinetic. Make what you *want* to make, rather than trying to appeal to certain groups to get more recognition and play. Because when you start forcing yourself to do stuff you're not interested in, stuff that you don't want in your game, your product suffers.

A lot of people don't like kinetic games, and at least want the illusion of choice, even if the game is actually totally linear. I feel the same way, even though I know that whatever choice I make, actually changes little besides taking part in a scene or not. It still feels like I have control over that character, whereas when I play a kinetic game with no choices, that element is missing and it seems far less enjoyable by comparison.

Yes, it would be better if games have meaningful choices. But we have to recognise that many Devs lack the time, motivation or even skills to effectively create such games. And if it's a choice between a game that I really enjoy being linear and surviving, and having meaningful choices and ultimately failing, then I'm quite happy for Devs to choose the former path. And so far this Dev has struggled when he's attempted to expand his game, and he seems unable to make substantial updates in a timely manner. So in this instance, I believe that encouraging him to create multiple routes is a recipe for disaster. And this is even more so the case, if you're encouraging him to create additional content, that he appears to have little appetite for.