Collection Mod Unity Virt-A-Mate Mod Assets: Clothing,Environments,Objects,Scenes,Looks,ect.

[Shakesbeer08]

This has been discussed extensively over the past months, but I'll bite:

1. Keeping a single thread for a forum worth of content is crazy and messy, people keep coming here asking for the same things over and over and over again because they can't find shit.

2.Requests are easier to be solved if they don't get buried under 50 re-requests and bug reports in an hour.

3. Full threads have more links, meaning fewer problems with dead links, especially when there are creators actively antagonizing and shooting down links here.

4. Tags, prefixes, previews, the LU, better search indexing, generally all of the cool tools the forum offers that don't exist in a single thread.

And if you must go there, losing all views of any single thread in the forum would not even show up in the statistics, so yeah, less traffic doesn't matter nearly as much as pushing the VaM section (and by extension the whole forum) to a higher standard.

I have ran many communities with 10's of thousands of members. I can tell you right now that it wont be a success, you will lose the live people interaction. Alot of people come to this post because of the randomness they might find. They might see requests on the fly they never knew they wanted to see.

Once you make people request items in each separate thread the traffic will dwindle to almost nothing because people dont want to click 20 for threads to see what people are asking for. Your average user that requests here and there isn't going to be making threads. The asset section for other games is proof it'll be dead because they are already. If some of those games had a live thread with real time interaction people would stay around more.

You will ruin the VAM community on this site and will end up with 6-7 regulars with hard any interactivity anymore.
Im willing to put money on it.

Ever heard the saying "If it isnt broke dont fix it" ??

This section of the forum is about to become as dead as the rest request/mod sections.

 

[tkfkgwcunlwtueqsnz]

Bookmark this link:
https://f95zone.to/latest/#/cat=assets/page=1/prefixes=35

You can also go through this entire thread. You can skim it, just look for screenshots and download links. It is time consuming, yes, just get used to it.

Thanks!

 

[woosky67]

I have ran many communities with 10's of thousands of members. I can tell you right now that it wont be a success, you will

...blabla... ;-)

This section of the forum is about to become as dead as the rest request/mod sections.

I do agree with you, the whining and useless discussion is part of the charm. I think both methods of sharing can coexist.

 

[fgriff]

I finished a set of scripts that completely clean VAM VARs from duplicate morphs, clothes, and hair while preserving the integrity of the game (no errors and everything loads) this reduces the disk space that the VAR files use and also loading times.

You need to have python and some modules (i will make a step by step manual for this)

To do this my script first scan what VARS you have and compares them in a SQLite database that contains my know VAR clothes, then it will enter each and every single one of the VARs and when it detect a duplication it will erease it from the VAR leaving only the author ones but preserving the presets and extra textures that some creators add on top of others work.

Another script will scan all your VARs and delete the duplicate morphs (speeding the scene loading times) this will need you to install my morph collection into your Custom Morph directory (i will make a tutorial about this)

Another script will make the same thing that the first does but with hairs.

And finally the last script will remove all the dependencies from your VARS, this will speed up the loading times, and sometimes cause you to have problems in your scenes if you dont really have all the requiered dependencies, most of us have everything anyway, but if you dont you will have to pay extra attention to the error log to see what you are missing.

I been testing this the last month and it works really well, but this is something you all like to try? (i mean just writing the damn manual bores me i love to code but not a big fan of documentation lol, so if there is not enough interest i will keep it to myself)

Any update on those scripts? I'd love to give them a try. If it's not ready for public consumption, I don't mind helping as a tester, if possible!

 

[FenixFyre]

See the Asset Request area, and for discussions, there's always the main thread.

It's been known for months that this thread would be closed, and we have through all this been encouraging people to move to the newly refurbished asset sections, and to be fair people from this thread have been stepping and populated the VaM release section with a large number of mods in these past months. As for what's not there, all I can say is that it takes as much effort to post a link in the req area as to post a link here, what happens next is entirely up to the community.

I just think closing the thread is a horrible idea. It will decrease engagement and force people to jump around several different threads that may or may not be of interest. Also, some people periodically just drop a folder link of an amalgam of stuff that people can skim through.

Forcing everyone to the assets model is not "help" for us. What happens next is NOT entirely up to the community.. if that were the case, the thread wouldn't be closing. If it truly is up to us to decide, then do a public poll and let us all see the results and let's go with the vote.

Don't get me wrong, if this is your board you can do what you want and that should be the case, but don't say its "up to us" when it's clearly up to "you" whether you flip that switch or not. "We" don't want this.

 

[Higha LaBoeuf]

what most people don't like is having to go through 30+ pages of off-topic chat and requests to find links that are broken. Having an area where you can upload files in a clean and orderly fashion makes it so much easier to download files. But I get what people mean. After all, this is just my opinion

 

[Great-Expectations]

I just think closing the thread is a horrible idea. It will decrease engagement and force people to jump around several different threads that may or may not be of interest. Also, some people periodically just drop a folder link of an amalgam of stuff that people can skim through.

Forcing everyone to the assets model is not "help" for us. What happens next is NOT entirely up to the community.. if that were the case, the thread wouldn't be closing. If it truly is up to us to decide, then do a public poll and let us all see the results and let's go with the vote.

Don't get me wrong, if this is your board you can do what you want and that should be the case, but don't say its "up to us" when it's clearly up to "you" whether you flip that switch or not. "We" don't want this.

I beleive the same, this will indeed affect VAM in total and be a bit negative.
I just hope it will be a good alternative we can meet up in and discuss good and bad things and share ideas (no matter how it goes) Communication is the key to any successful idea.

 

[mrmagmrmag2]

Once you make people request items in each separate thread the traffic will dwindle to almost nothing because people dont want to click 20 for threads to see what people are asking for. Your average user that requests here and there isn't going to be making threads. The asset section for other games is proof it'll be dead because they are already. If some of those games had a live thread with real time interaction people would stay around more.

I can hardly agree more. This is exactly what I think will happen and also -- as stated before -- the interaction is part of the fun for coming to this thread (almost) every day. But I guess we all know you are right and there won't be anyone betting against that (except one of the mods maybe). I would hate if it has to come to a point where you are proven right regarding that forecast of future events as far as the VAM community here is concerned.

But there was the mention of a new 'main thread' (still no exact idea which thread was meant by that, but I am confident a link to it will appear in this one soon) and most likely we all will migrate there and keep the banterm discussion and the more 'random' stuff there and will be forced by the mods to create asset release and asset request threads for every post of that nature. You can still post links to these new threads in the 'main thread', so things are not as easy to access, but just one more click and browser tab away. Not as nice and streamlined as now, but still OK to handle.

 

[kraoro]

I'm asking in a genuinely curious way and not a combative way, but why exactly is the thread being deleted? Is it because of the off-topic posts (that includes the bullshit argument about racism above, but also tech support requests, etc), or is because of hosting bandwidth issues? Because I feel like both issues could be resolved by just allowing a new thread to be created, but if the problem is off-topic posts, then moderating it more heavily, or if the issue is bandwidth, then closing it and starting anew any time the thread reaches a predetermined page limit. If the issue is about bandwidth, then I think deleting the thread and starting over is a better choice than closing it and leaving it up for people to read. Especially because a lot of the links in the very early posts are going to be dead, either from expiration, or uploader removal, or DMCA takedowns, etc.

 

[redknight00]

what most people don't like is having to go through 30+ pages of off-topic chat and requests to find links that are broken. Having an area where you can upload files in a clean and orderly fashion makes it so much easier to download files. But I get what people mean. After all, this is just my opinion

Uploading files in a clean and orderly is what this change is all about.

request/mod sections.

There is not mod request section tho, the others are doing just fine, we have over 9k games, 8k Daz assets and 2.5k comics/animation (mind you the last is considerable more time consuming with collection that go up to 50-60GB).

Especially because a lot of the links in the very early posts are going to be dead, either from expiration, or uploader removal, or DMCA takedowns, etc.

I just posted above, this is one of the reasons for the change, since threads mean more study and numerous, even the devs who pay people to sit all day sniping links can't do shit to stop people from downloading their games here.

 

[xirexo]

Hi
I agree with the admins opinion to close this topic, this will clarify the requests and releases.

HOWEVER !!!!

I think it is necessary and even vital to leave a thread where everyone can discuss about VAM. Because it's through this kind of thread that everyone can exchange tips, unblock other people or discuss possible improvements.

Clarifying the forum yes, but not offering other alternatives to discuss NO.

PS: Close the thread yes, but do not delete its content. Many resources in this thread could be gone forever if this thread is deleted.

 

[Pesadilla]

Uploading files in a clean and orderly is what this change is all about.


There is not mod request section tho, the others are doing just fine, we have over 9k games, 8k Daz assets and 2.5k comics/animation (mind you the last is considerable more time consuming with collection that go up to 50-60GB).



I just posted above, this is one of the reasons for the change, since threads mean more study and numerous, even the devs who pay people to sit all day sniping links can't do shit to stop people from downloading their games here.

Like i said many times i love the idea of Asset Release/Request, you have said that this thread wont be ereased just locked, and in my understanding we can continue to use the main thread (i assume is: https://f95zone.to/threads/virt-a-mate-v1-19-meshed-vr.6881/)

I think most people like me are somehow lazy and maybe for some its a lot of effort to upload to anonfiles and only post a link here as a simple comment in the thread, asking them to open an Asset Release thread (for people that are not forum uploaders is in the Asset Request) maybe it will discourage sharing, maybe uploaders can get those links via PM from those users and we upload them in the right way, otherwise i really feel people will share less.

I think there is a need for clear rules in the main thread, because i love the community, i think its more alive than MeshedVR discord/hub because there is honesty here, in there you think that by speaking your mind you will get banned (maybe not, but we saw bans in the past), the time is running out but if possible i would love to continue having a community instead of just plain file sharing.

 

[Pesadilla]

Any update on those scripts? I'd love to give them a try. If it's not ready for public consumption, I don't mind helping as a tester, if possible!

Im working on the release, maybe today or tomorroy i will post in asset release the scripts and instructions on how to use it.

 

[fgriff]

I've been on plenty of (dead) forums where people who wanted to vent, share, inform, etc., have left because they didn't want to create a new thread, or they encountered issues of thread necro, hijack, membership level restricted posts, etc.
I hope that doesn't happen here.

Are there clear rules around thread naming conventions for things that don't qualify as an asset, look, or scene, etc.? For example, if I want to talk to about var scripts, some new kind of tool, maybe a character conversion tool or whatever, etc., I don't want to hijack some content post to do so, but it should also be easy for like-minded people to find those threads.

 

[fgriff]

Im working on the release, maybe today or tomorroy i will post in asset release the scripts and instructions on how to use it.

Sounds good to me. Thanks for the update!

 

[Shakesbeer08]

the time is running out but if possible i would love to continue having a community instead of just plain file sharing.

The VAM section will hugely diminish once they lock this thread. Sharing will become stale and boring. Requests will pop up and get filled maybe or not... it'll get a few likes but the request thread will be dead with 2 or 3 replies because there is no farther interest. People will just download the file and not reply. The download link will eventually fail and have broken releases... Uploaders will get no satisfaction from that and wont feel much important to the community anymore.

I feel like who ever makes the final decision around here is the type of person that it is their way or no way. There is no open communication to keep this thread open. It seems 10 to 1 to keep it open yet its closing no matter what we say.

If I get banned for speaking what I feel I guess it is what it is anyways.

 

[FenixFyre]

what most people don't like is having to go through 30+ pages of off-topic chat and requests to find links that are broken. Having an area where you can upload files in a clean and orderly fashion makes it so much easier to download files. But I get what people mean. After all, this is just my opinion

I'm all for that, but I think we could have both. I mean.. it ain't hurtin' nobody to have both. It's just pixels, and no more real strain on the servers. Keep this thread for the skimmers and keep the other thread for the folks that want to build a catalog and we can cross polinate a bit.

But, again, I respect the sovereignty of the creators. It's their board. And if it were my board, I do whatever the heck I wanted too, so I do respect their right to do it.. I just disagree.

 

[FenixFyre]

Like i said many times i love the idea of Asset Release/Request, you have said that this thread wont be ereased just locked, and in my understanding we can continue to use the main thread (i assume is: https://f95zone.to/threads/virt-a-mate-v1-19-meshed-vr.6881/)

I think most people like me are somehow lazy and maybe for some its a lot of effort to upload to anonfiles and only post a link here as a simple comment in the thread, asking them to open an Asset Release thread (for people that are not forum uploaders is in the Asset Request) maybe it will discourage sharing, maybe uploaders can get those links via PM from those users and we upload them in the right way, otherwise i really feel people will share less.

I think there is a need for clear rules in the main thread, because i love the community, i think its more alive than MeshedVR discord/hub because there is honesty here, in there you think that by speaking your mind you will get banned (maybe not, but we saw bans in the past), the time is running out but if possible i would love to continue having a community instead of just plain file sharing.

I don't mind uploading things, but taking the time to upload to multiple sources and create thumbnails and all that is a pretty big commitment. I praise those that do it but I also am sympathetic to those that just wanna drop a quick link with their bros and get on about their day. I think there is room for both IMO.

 

[fdghsfhgfdhdfhf]

For god sake please talk in private or in the discord, this board is a pain in the ass to follow ...

 

[kraoro]

For god sake please talk in private or in the discord, this board is a pain in the ass to follow ...

No, you don't understand, 400 pages of off-topic bullshit is important to foster a sense of community! You know, a sense of community being the most important thing I look for when I'm downloading titty mods for a porn game. That and lengthy discourses on racism are the most important things.