Krosos

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gotta love how this keeps coming up now and again
even assuming all subs are max tier , and its not, its still not as much as you would think
you have:
- patreon fees not sure which plan he is on but thats 8-12% total patreon donations
- transaction and international currency conversion fees
- software and licensing fees
- server hosting fees for VaMhub and the update server
- wages for the staff he employs, iirc there are a few now full time
- prob other stuff i missed i dunno
....... all of a sudden it doesnt seem that much when you compare to other patreon accounts
people complain about how long it takes meshed to develop the software but not the cheap and nasty content some VaM patreon creators put out
alot of the stuff hes doing now does take time get it all set up so the current feature set comes together neatly code wise in 2.0 unlike how 1.x just had features added on and on until it worked against itself
I don't think anyone will surprise us here for a very long time 2.0 will be pretty advanced and it still looks like no one is gonna reach it once it has the complete featureset and code merge/port of 1.20 finalized it will be Spacetime unreachable for anyone unless he/she is mega smart and dedicated or even a magician unless that you need a pretty big Pro Crew so far (Chinese though are trying it) also only Holodexxx is real competition that could become a heavy contender in the Future on Unreal but they have other plans it seems for now that wouldn't really cross roads with VAM so rather from it's business target no contender at all in sight for a long time.
Each day passing by any possible contender looses more and more ground against the continuous project growth.

Though being so heavy dependent on Unity is also for VAM Semi Optimal.

Only some long time Hidden Project could surprise us now, that would have had to started already in the Debug Timeframe of VAM itself.
Only projects that could fulfill this would be MorganaVRs Mirage or Naughty Sandbox but their progress is rather slow and the overall featureset far away from VAM even in the slightest so no real chance even if i think Morgana does good overall work and showcases some knowledge that's highly needed to succeed especially under Unity.

You need to be 10x better under Unity than any "AVG" Unreal Dev or rather people that today call themselves DEVS.

And in that regards Unreal projects have a bigger chance of becoming very efficient though very unlikely in a commercial legal space under Epics License Restrictions.
Too Advanced buildup on their Base in Public and they would sue it down immediately, especially when it would start to get in the way of MetaHuman and their building up cloud business with it.

Ahh and lets of course not forget our Korean/Chinese DRM Wonderboy/Girl/X and successful Business expert ZHFX maybe he/she/x gonna surprise us with yet another Bulletproof DRM scheme out of his/her/x magic algorithm and coding skillbox once again ;-) *rofl*
Though before that really happens rather some Russian Team gonna surprise us ;)


PS: VAM Can still work relative fine chunking through over 200 GB of Addonpackages over USB3 latency, even in this Semi Optimal state it's acceptable.

Not so nice is that 0 bytes data can be shown in the VAM HUB as IN Library completed and there is no way of in GUI correcting these HUB false downloads and no real integrity check in the Client Browser to avoid it this a major security flaw on the backend and frontend.

Also that the Open Queued Resources shows you a entire history of finished packages instead jumping right to the current download in progress is rather strange and overall not a convenient history for that "Show Download History" would have made more sense and here it should check at least the basic integrity once again as well.

Such basic integrity like this could be easily checked in realtime over the MFT with almost 0 additional overhead.

Sooner or later we will see the real bad boys that decided for the other side gonna abusing the HUB to spread their shit and that will become way bloodier for everyone than some desperate caught by his own greed creator trying to get some idiotic pirate revenge.

Pegasus should have shown how important parser hardening and security is.
 
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Anyone got to work properly?
Anytime I activated it the hole AddonPackages Folder disappears from VaM, the directory itself seem to be ok...
 

JackyW

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Would someone be so kind as to send me Doofenschmalphys PoseHomogenizer, it's in the huge paywall pack, I don't want to download the whole thing just for one small file.

Thanks.
 

poiuzxcklj

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Would someone be so kind as to send me Doofenschmalphys PoseHomogenizer, it's in the huge paywall pack, I don't want to download the whole thing just for one small file.

Thanks.
can you tell me what the posehomogenizer does? Also, can you link to the pack? I can't find a link to it.
 

maxdannis

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Is there no way to search stuff in assets release? If mod closed main vam thread then atleast they have to provide better search system for it ffs.
Did you even try clicking advanced search?

https://f95zone.to/search/?type=post

"search in forums" and select Asset Releases

I typed in "twerking" to test and the Kai's twerking asset post came up just fine. It even came back with a partial match for "Twerk for Genesis 8 Figures".

Maybe try before you just complain ffs smh.
 

EmIarMitee

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Downloaded the VAM updater zip file, copy pasted it into main folder but running it I get an error and the game remains at version 1.19, how to update it to 1.20? I tired the one 1.19 comes with and that one works, not sure if it won't break something and make it uncracked or something but it's updating to 1.20 now.

How safe is that patreon torrent pack? I've heard that one user messed with some scripts, I excluded his work from being downloaded but is there some black list of creators that compromised the free uploads to mess with people that download those leaked versions? Are his original models if I pay for them good and safe to use? I saw some other file being shown to be excluded in some tool one user was testing but I'm not sure which creator made it and there are many folders in that pack.

Also what are some of the most recommended mods to download, I could just download all I can find but I'm worried about compatibiity and don't need all, mostly want various bulge morphs, animations, some characters to make my own scenes. Is there some guide on installing mods, plugins, using external tool that are hosted on github, which folders to place them into, some mod managers that deal with duplicates and incompatible mods?
 
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“Nothing in the world is so fairly distributed as the mind. Because everyone is convinced that he had enough of it. "
 
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EmIarMitee

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There are 2 viruses in the second patreon pack. One allows someone to access your computer remotely, the other allows them to execute .dll files from within VaM. You have to extract every single .VAR file for your antivirus to find them. Enjoy! Next pack will be better ;)
I figured out the issue with update I mentioned in previous post, turns out the included updated worked fine and I now have the game running as 1.20, also figured out the other thing which was the mod manager and download locations, turns out google always has the answers, just weird that no instructions or guides are mentioned anywhere in this forum.

Is there a blacklist of scenes, scripts and plugins that are not safe to use? So far I did not unpack any with the built in manager and only added some free mods from official VAM website.

I'm downloading this one: https://f95zone.to/threads/virt-a-m...-environments-objects-scenes-looks-ect.34878/ I see only one pack here and 12-2020 & Earlier and that's the only one I've downloaded, which 2nd pack are you refferring to? Is the 12-2020 and earlier safe? If not is it enough that I unpack what I want and then scan the unpacked folders?
 

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Regarding torrent packs, for ala carte purposes, the one they released last summer I see they never got around to updating page 1 on the megathread for it after it was removed had a scene with baby in it or something. This is the torrent they released after removing that scene. They included a thumbnail directory covering most of the material you might peek at before hand.

I didn't get either dec or this one, but browsing through the content it's a pretty valuable source including many clothing assets. Clothing does not use plugins, .cs files, or .dll.

 

EmIarMitee

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Regarding torrent packs, for ala carte purposes, the one they released last summer I see they never got around to updating page 1 on the megathread for it after it was removed had a scene with baby in it or something. This is the torrent they released after removing that scene. They included a thumbnail directory covering most of the material you might peek at before hand.

I didn't get either dec or this one, but browsing through the content it's a pretty valuable source including many clothing assets. Clothing does not use plugins, .cs files, or .dll.

F95_VAM_Pack_2_ReRelease.torrent
So which pack has those bad plugins and scripts? And is this 2nd pack free of that bad stuff too? Which specific ones are bad? I saw mention of some script with Gaze in the name, one file was named tifa and one larger collection from one of the creators, anything else I should know about?
 

Galin

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So which pack has those bad plugins and scripts? And is this 2nd pack free of that bad stuff too? Which specific ones are bad? I saw mention of some script with Gaze in the name, one file was named tifa and one larger collection from one of the creators, anything else I should know about?
It's a Hoaks, Fake News, He's lying...
 

Bob_Oblong

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So which pack has those bad plugins and scripts? And is this 2nd pack free of that bad stuff too? Which specific ones are bad? I saw mention of some script with Gaze in the name, one file was named tifa and one larger collection from one of the creators, anything else I should know about?
Paywall Pack 2021 was released June 26 according to page 1 on megathread that was the one with links crossed out. The repack they released somewhere middle of July thats the .torrent file above. Scripts wasn't an issue with it that would have been about April or May when MeshedVR did that emergency update. From the time the repack released to closure of megathread there was no mention of other problematic scenes other than the removed one, or mention of scripts.

Discussion on the topic begins on this post by CustomPaywall who was leading the project. From what I read it wasn't a loli scene someone mentioned it was a child aged single digits. From memory I know when he reposted repack he later deleted the post and activity vanished. I'd imagine the amount of files to go through were just overwhelming and wasn't worth the time. The file I linked above was one someone reposted later down the line. Case of it is what it is. That's repack 2021 and probably won't get end of the year pack like last year with f95 dead.
 
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Krosos

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There are 2 viruses in the second patreon pack. One allows someone to access your computer remotely, the other allows them to execute .dll files from within VaM. You have to extract every single .VAR file for your antivirus to find them. Enjoy! Next pack will be better ;)
Interesting as well now could you please tell us in which parts you suspect this in the pack and based on which RE evidence ?
Some coders would use these circumvents indeed early on though just being able to execute a external library around the sandbox doesn't make it already a clear identified malicious attack.

First thing you should look into was that code already there or was it added only inside this pack to be specifically distributed hidden with it, this would give some more interesting start.

Now if you can proof this immediately there would be certainly zero doubts about your accusations direction you want to go in the other case we need further investigation specificaly on this one part and it's entire history.
 
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Yep he brags about it but doesn't try to proof it and he hates Asians who he as well seems to suspect to have done it but he lets everyone of his fellows run into it and doesn't try to protect them by telling them where exactly it is ?, that doesn't make much logical sense at all ;)
And you could suspect from this he might be on a Internal Political Revenge Trip, or just some Kid who likes to shock others around ;)

They're dumb rice fed gooks. Rice ni66ers don't think anything through. Their brains are like single threaded processors. I guess it's not their fault the whole continent of Asia was hooked on opium for about 500 years which amounted to 100 consecutive generations of inbreeding.
Especially when you read something like this it's not really helping his believe ability at all, so much Internal hate inside of him almost desperate.

Comparing him with ZHFX i would have more respect for him even, who has still some human inside of him also when he seems to be deeply buried somewhere heck even Reign or Kitty or even being in a Room with all 3 of them sounds more interesting than with him (in every way) ;)



So mister Asian Exterminator it's your turn.
I guess by now many have reported you so your time is running out.

Btw this could be also a tactic by one very aggressive and on top of that very dumb Creator ;)
 
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The Cadillac + Vecterror Cooperation is interesting :)
 
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EmIarMitee

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Seems like no one know what is actually safe to download and what not, nevermind.

Is there some way to unpack all the vars in one go? It's very time consuming doing it one by one and they don't work until I unpack don't they? Becuase I saw mention to just place the vars in the addons folder but then I couldn't see any scenes until I did so.

Also why is it that when I save a look or preset of some character from a scene it places it in the save folder, and some stuff is in the custom and rest is still in the addon packages, can't everything, be it mods from vars, manually unpacked or save content be in the same root folder like addon packages?
 
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It was a Design decision in the middle of Debug and Production testing Phase (and the creation of the Store Distribution System) nothing was really freezed state you can't do this so easily when you have already so many scenes that could brake the easiest way is to put it on top and keep the interop.

.VAR is mostly for average user and convenience of distribution (it is still to complex for many) it was a rather very fast panic development thing mostly as well and pushed through very fast with only very few testing though it's not easy to get such complex things working without big field tests and learn from mistakes especially when so many demand something and pressure for it ;)

You don't develop something like this that way normally this takes a bit more time and a bit more people and you write a lot of specs and do a lot of testing, though it kind of works when there aren't so many mistakes happening on the user side ;)

It's like Speedrunning except things to be unstable ;)

for a geek .var is pretty useless
 
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