You can grab 0.9.07 free fromAny news on this? can anyone share the 0.9?
Last I checked they actually removed the Mods Section on Discord and claimed itll come back later. So all that really is a thing is the pack I posted above.Any mods started popping up? If yes, anyone tried them and care to tell how they are working?
Since you didn't post it yourself for whatever reasonDev ended the game development and released the source code, would we have any hope of a nsfw version of this now?
good that I stayed true to my motto and don't "support" anyone via Patreon.
"Officially scammed"?good that I stayed true to my motto and don't "support" anyone via Patreon.
Because now I wouldn't get my money back.
and all the people who gave him money are now officially scammed.
And yes, I'm angry that he suddenly canceled the project without any good reason
ngl I was really close to supporting him on Patreon...
if I support someone financially on a project, I expect this to be completed as well."Officially scammed"?
The game was released to v0.9.
I'd be interested to hear what promises he "made" that you feel he did not deliver on. Especially on a passion project that he started on his own for his own desires. Or what you think he should have added that you wouldn't have supported anyway!
A project, mind you, that only earned about $1k a month. Which, especially depending on where you live (like in my state for example) is not even enough to afford one MONTH of mortgage/rent.
This is not a giant game corporation making a AAA title. This is ONE dude making an incredibly niche project, that was worked on for five years. Especially on top of having to work an actual job, I'm sure. He even went through the effort of adding mod support and character import methods, which he had ZERO responsibility to do.
Crowdfunding is not a contract. You are not a shareholder. There is no guaranteed turn around for concepts/suggestions. A SCAM would be if he made a demo of a game, then never released anything past that. Despite reaching a crowdfunding goal that says, "I will make a finished game." A la, Kickstarter, which god help you is full of ACTUAL scams.
I wholly respect if you are just jaded and do not want to blindly support the first person you see. Everyone has that right, and you can be forthcoming about it. But to outright be angry about something you put no money into, and calling what he did a scam, is absolutely ridiculous and exceptionally disrespectful.
As a further note: No, I am not attacking you. Nor do I expect to change your mind, or want to start a cavalcade of fighting. But your take on this is exceptionally misplaced.
Then that's where you're going wrong. If you don't give money FULLY expecting to never see it do anything (With Patreon, Ko-fi, Kickstarter, etc), you're doing it wrong. You are still not entitled to anything. You are donating.if I support someone financially on a project, I expect this to be completed as well.
Of course he's not legally obliged to do this, but it's just logical thinking and a matter of respect for his supporters.
Even I, as a non-supporter, feel like I've been hit in the face by the action, what should the people who gave him money and expected a finished "product" say?
Officially and legally it is not a scam, but morally it is.
But that's just my way of thinking, there are certainly many who don't care that they were indirectly cheated of their money
I really hope that the game will be developed "normally" by the new people without nsfw mods and additions, but I doubt it a bit.I agree that there was no scam here. He simply created something, and kept adding to it.
But I just slid over to their discord. (Side note, I believe it was shut down before, and they switched to an different version, open source that ran on linked computers rather than servers, so no central control over it. Wish I could remember what it was called.)
Anyway they have a link to the Open Viva project discord.
Not sure if this will work as an invote, but it is the link I followed to get there:
You must be registered to see the links
So to me it looks like it has shifted from one developer to many. That could be a good thing, but we need to wait and see to know for sure.
But I was informed there aren't any "forks" unless people are building their own private ones, and the Oven Viva project is where it will keep being developed.
There was already a nude mod. Essentially it treated it like clothing. I believe it ended up getting removed to protect the Discord, or Patreon, even though it was not created by the creator.I really hope that the game will be developed "normally" by the new people without nsfw mods and additions, but I doubt it a bit.
at least the game isn't dead, at least for now