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Joshy92

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Yes, I get that.
But, you're effectively wanting a particular path...

Joshy said I want a cuck game where the LI doesn't cheat...
So, if he plays a story with choices, he's going to be making choices hoping to get that result...right??
If there's a kinetic cuck story where the LI doesn't cheat, how is that really different or less enjoyable than a story where you're making choices hoping to get a particular result??
I mean, are you guys making choices hoping to get a result you don't want to see??:ROFLMAO:
Well don't take my words so literal. I want the option for cucking while also wanting to have choices to avoid certain dudes and how the mc responds to situations.

Also, the dev should have requested to get the kinetic tag added so he's a liar imo.
 

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Yes, I get that.
But, you're effectively wanting a particular path...

Joshy said I want a cuck game where the LI doesn't cheat...
So, if he plays a story with choices, he's going to be making choices hoping to get that result...right??
If there's a kinetic cuck story where the LI doesn't cheat, how is that really different or less enjoyable than a story where you're making choices hoping to get a particular result??
I mean, are you guys making choices hoping to get a result you don't want to see??:ROFLMAO:
If done well, those other results can be just as fun. What if Joshy doesn't want to be cucked by the guy who is disrespectful to his beloved? In kinetic novel, he really doesn't get a choice there. I know there are certainly situations I prefer to avoid (BBC tropes and blackmail). And for more story driven games, yeah, I want choice. It allows for some creative story writing. For example, in Desert Stalker, choosing to save the elf girl or not can have significant impact on the story. That's the kind of stuff I like.
 

sagerock820

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If you're making choices to stay on one path...
I'd suggest the choices don't matter at all...unless you're looking to be thrown onto a different path...

I don't like kinetic stories that don't fit my preferences.
I'm not going to play a cheating kinetic story.
But, like the Three Panels, if it's a linear story with no, or few choices, that stays on a "path" I like, I'm good with it being kinetic.

I really do not understand disliking "kinetic" solely on concept when you play stories with "choices" hoping to be on a path you want...
Choice stories are essentially 2 or more kinetic stories smashed together with "choices" deciding which story you're going to see...
There is no KN out there that would follow all my choices. In sharing/swinging/hotwife games. I want to be able to choose who my gf/wife has sex with. Sometimes I want the choice as to whether or not I would join in with them or not. You can't get that in a KN. I want to tell the game where I want to go, not the other way around.
 

Joshy92

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If done well, those other results can be just as fun. What if Joshy doesn't want to be cucked by the guy who is disrespectful to his beloved? In kinetic novel, he really doesn't get a choice there. I know there are certainly situations I prefer to avoid (BBC tropes and blackmail). And for more story driven games, yeah, I want choice. It allows for some creative story writing. For example, in Desert Stalker, choosing to save the elf girl or not can have significant impact on the story. That's the kind of stuff I like.
Yeah, guys treating the LI like trash is a big no no for me.
 

redoubt27

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its not entirely rational and relies on trickying the human psychology
Correct.

I mean, there's a reason nearly every one of these "choice" stories has paths, walkthroughs, guides, mods, hints, etc...:ROFLMAO:

But hey, if it's more enjoyable for someone to make choices in order to avoid paths and content they don't want; while rejecting a story or content (they'd otherwise be making choices to get) because it's a kinetic, linear story, that's their choice...:ROFLMAO:
 
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Anyway, I do appreciate the thought redoubt27 but I had already looked at that game a while ago.
Thanks. It's all good.
I played it a long while back, too. Had it in my trash bin.
But, I saw the dev changed to Ren'Py, so gave it another chance.
The Ren'Py story is different from what I recalled in the RPGM story...

I do somewhat recall what you talked about, her running off on the map...
I kind of recall thinking it felt more NTRish than NTS, which is why I trashed it, plus not a fan of RPGM, why I don't play The Office Wife, even though it has some content I like, and unfortunately the Ren'Py version sucks...:ROFLMAO:
I think it's the carnival/fair scene where she did run off in the RPGM version.
But, in the Ren'Py remake, it's the BF imagining a scene.

And, I certainly understand what y'all are saying about kinetic vs choice VNs.
I generally skip kinetic stories that I'm pretty sure aren't going to be to my liking.
It's just that I play choice stories for a specific path, story, that I'd like.
I'm not making choices in hopes of seeing a path I don't want to see...lol
And if I were able to pull out that specific path I chose, put it as a kinetic novel, I'd absolutely read that kinetic novel...

I kind of thought that's what MGFMND was going to be for you based on the Ren'Py changes...:ROFLMAO:
 

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About your "Phone Story". I am the author of the game.


I wasn't going to focus on interracial sex, but it will be in the game, in the form of two characters, the rest of the characters will be white, if that's important to you.
The basis of the plot is the NTR or NTS branch, although you can go along the branch of Love without letting Lisa go over the edge.
 

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About your "Phone Story". I am the author of the game.


I wasn't going to focus on interracial sex, but it will be in the game, in the form of two characters, the rest of the characters will be white, if that's important to you.
The basis of the plot is the NTR or NTS branch, although you can go along the branch of Love without letting Lisa go over the edge.
It's not that interracial is a problem. It's that it's hilariously not diverse. It's always a black guy, who of course, must have the biggest dick in the game and no one else can hold a candle to him. Would love to see more diversity and a black guy with an LBC instead of a BBC who is portrayed nicely (they are often portrayed as villains) and gets some pity fucks.
 

Taptus

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It's not that interracial is a problem. It's that it's hilariously not diverse. It's always a black guy, who of course, must have the biggest dick in the game and no one else can hold a candle to him. Would love to see more diversity and a black guy with an LBC instead of a BBC who is portrayed nicely (they are often portrayed as villains) and gets some pity fucks.
There are certain things that people like. Most people. And there are some things that the majority of people don't like. I proceed from the principle of "from more to less", where to close first. the most popular kinks and then go to the local ones. Fortunately, my tastes coincide with the tastes of the majority and I just need to do it.

In order to make more interesting characters, you need more time. And making characters unique is not worth the goal. The goal is to create a general interesting story. If for someone the game becomes bad from the fact that there are certain cliches, then I think for such "aesthetes", games come out little.

I will definitely have White Guys with big dicks in the game, if you are so important to dicks.:D
 
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I need help with searching for a game. MC is female, she has a bf, i think that they are in college or high school, i think that at the start of the game, girlfriend goes on a school trip with swimming team or something like that, and on the bus she meets some guy that she likes and if she fucks him later, her friend gets angry with her. Last update was something like they end up in some wood on a trip and they find some old castle. I think that it is a rpgm game, im not quite sure. There are multiple choices, optinal swinging, ntr and cheating. Help please :)
Sounds like Lisa by Palegrass.
 

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About your "Phone Story". I am the author of the game.


I wasn't going to focus on interracial sex, but it will be in the game, in the form of two characters, the rest of the characters will be white, if that's important to you.
The basis of the plot is the NTR or NTS branch, although you can go along the branch of Love without letting Lisa go over the edge.
Appreciate you posting, when I played through the version of game posted here my comment about it being focused on IR was based on the current content only - of which there's a significant focus on with both the Carl and Kira conversations.

As LAB above beat me to it, my issue isn't with skin color but the tropes associated with the fetish. It's an insular fetish that doesn't play well with others, which is why I notate it clearly; rare is the game with the fetish present and not a hyperfocus on it. And that's fine for players who want a focus on it, I've nothing against their satisfaction, only that things be clearly labeled.

(Sadly I've also found the "gf/wife female best friend character who treats MC poorly but wants to corrupt gf/wife" is almost always part and parcel of the above). But hey, if you're planning a variety of scenarios, more power to you, and I'll be eager to see where the game goes.
 
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It's not that interracial is a problem. It's that it's hilariously not diverse. It's always a black guy, who of course, must have the biggest dick in the game and no one else can hold a candle to him. Would love to see more diversity and a black guy with an LBC instead of a BBC who is portrayed nicely (they are often portrayed as villains) and gets some pity fucks.
Nerdy Black Guy and his Chad Bro? Sounds chill.:Kappa:
 

Teye phoon

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Thank you for this thread, was muchly needed.

I can highly recommend "Her Desire". Female protagonist matriarch, who includes the husband in the fun.
 

Joshy92

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Appreciate you posting, when I played through the version of game posted here my comment about it being focused on IR was based on the current content only - of which there's a significant focus on with both the Carl and Kira conversations.

As LAB above beat me to it, my issue isn't with skin color but the tropes associated with the fetish. It's an insular fetish that doesn't play well with others, which is why I notate it clearly; rare is the game with the fetish present and not a hyperfocus on it. And that's fine for players who want a focus on it, I've nothing against their satisfaction, only that things be clearly labeled.

(Sadly I've also found the "gf/wife female best friend character who treats MC poorly but wants to corrupt gf/wife" is almost always part and parcel of the above). But hey, if you're planning a variety of scenarios, more power to you, and I'll be eager to see where the game goes.
Which phone game are you guys talking about?
 
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