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There is a very well done cuckqueen scene in Netorase Phone, and I understand the Dev may be looking to extend that further in the upcoming chapter.
We'll have to disagree about it being "well done", but it was certainly a nice scene...:ROFLMAO:
Having your SO's best girlfriend give you a BJ while the SO is getting railed by another dude ain't exactly cuckquean.
It's close, but not quite.
The best parts are when Ashley teases Laura in certain exchanges after that...
It's a neat way to remind Laura not to get too into those other dudes because her man is desired by others, too.
 
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We'll have to disagree about it being "well done", but it was certainly a nice scene...:ROFLMAO:
Having your SO's best girlfriend give you a BJ while the SO is getting railed by another dude ain't exactly cuckquean.
It's close, but not quite.
The best parts are when Ashley teases Laura in certain exchanges after that...
It's a neat way to remind Laura not to get too into those other dudes because her man is desired by others, too.
this kinda stuff is a real missed opportunity IMO as sharing/cuck/ntr stuff often overshadows swinging themes - I love scenes where on one side the gf is getting it from someone else and meanwhile mc can both watch either her or a different girl going to town on him.
 

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We'll have to disagree about it being "well done", but it was certainly a nice scene...:ROFLMAO:
Having your SO's best girlfriend give you a BJ while the SO is getting railed by another dude ain't exactly cuckquean.
It's close, but not quite.
The best parts are when Ashley teases Laura in certain exchanges after that...
It's a neat way to remind Laura not to get too into those other dudes because her man is desired by others, too.
It was the sum of the set-up (she knew it was going to happen), the action itself and the conversation after that made the scene well done IMO. And cucking/hotwifing/hothusbanding(?) is a very broad spectrum after all. Personal preference- As long as there's no degradation or humiliation, it's all good.
 

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It was the sum of the set-up (she knew it was going to happen), the action itself and the conversation after that made the scene well done IMO. And cucking/hotwifing/hothusbanding(?) is a very broad spectrum after all. Personal preference- As long as there's no degradation or humiliation, it's all good.
Agree, these “categories” are broad, and subject to preferences, opinion, etc. And for the most part, yes, all good.

Where the “scene” fell short for me, imo, in terms of “cuckquean”, is that Laura is with Nathan when it’s happening. It’s certainly in the swinging, sharing ballpark, which cuckquean, cuckold, etc can and do fall under. However, to me, the scene comes off as Laura throwing the BF a “bone” because there’s a part of her that feels, just a little guilty, and is trying to “balance” the scales, rather than her actually “enjoying” it. Not that her enjoying is essential to the cuckquean thing…lol

I like Netorase Phone and really like the fact it finally introduced the element of sharing action for the BF.
It is one of the few stories with any type of cuckquean like element to it, and subsequent updates are developing that “path” for Laura a bit more. Certainly will be interesting to see how it goes.

Personally, I’m looking for a “scene” where Laura gets an “out of the blue” text (like BF gets from Laura, Nathan, etc) from Ashley, BF, or Tara in that group chat, showing the BF with Ashley or Tara, that Laura didn’t “set up”… Or if she did, she’s at work, or something, just not with another dude when it’s happening…
Can you imagine, Ashley sends pic to Laura, guess who visited while you were at work…:ROFLMAO:
So many possibilities…
 

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Agree, these “categories” are broad, and subject to preferences, opinion, etc. And for the most part, yes, all good.

Where the “scene” fell short for me, imo, in terms of “cuckquean”, is that Laura is with Nathan when it’s happening. It’s certainly in the swinging, sharing ballpark, which cuckquean, cuckold, etc can and do fall under. However, to me, the scene comes off as Laura throwing the BF a “bone” because there’s a part of her that feels, just a little guilty, and is trying to “balance” the scales, rather than her actually “enjoying” it. Not that her enjoying is essential to the cuckquean thing…lol

I like Netorase Phone and really like the fact it finally introduced the element of sharing action for the BF.
It is one of the few stories with any type of cuckquean like element to it, and subsequent updates are developing that “path” for Laura a bit more. Certainly will be interesting to see how it goes.

Personally, I’m looking for a “scene” where Laura gets an “out of the blue” text (like BF gets from Laura, Nathan, etc) from Ashley, BF, or Tara in that group chat, showing the BF with Ashley or Tara, that Laura didn’t “set up”… Or if she did, she’s at work, or something, just not with another dude when it’s happening…
Can you imagine, Ashley sends pic to Laura, guess who visited while you were at work…:ROFLMAO:
So many possibilities…
I think in "Ntrs phone" that situation is also colored by the fact nothing seems to ever come up organically between mc and the female friends, yet happens all the time between Laura and her paramours. (another way of saying what you're saying).

It'd be nice to see either a scene with mc and ashley/tara that laura didnt set up, OR laura was integral to setup but that held true the same for laura's scenes with other guys - hopefully this makes sense. Right now it's kinda this double standard of Laura meeting up with nate/other guy whenever she wants, but all of mc's liasons feel very constrained.

This is my main complaint overall with ntrs phone; even on the 'dom' path, there's a pervasive feeling of Laura really running everything and MC just along for the ride.
 

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It'd be nice to see either a scene with mc and ashley/tara that laura didnt set up, OR laura was integral to setup but that held true the same for laura's scenes with other guys - hopefully this makes sense.
Makes perfect sense, I feel similarly about it...
It's been a while, but I remember the first text (one of the random "interlude" scenes) I got where Nathan was like, hey look at this...
WTF?? I was pissed and almost deleted that one...:ROFLMAO:
But, decided instead to start over and choose, yes Ashley, send me pics of you...
Been fine with it ever since... :ROFLMAO:
 
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Can anyone recommend me Netrori swapping game like Desert Stalker and Long Story Short ?
Other than LSS? If I read your reply in the other thread correctly you wanna avoid realporn games, otherwise I'd say Love and Vice.

Adventures of Willy D certainly has both swapping elements and girlfriend-stealing elements along with harem, though it's very long and sandboxy so some people don't like that.
 

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A thing to add on redoubt's post here-

The teasing, anticipation and buildup is definitely key in many of these games, once you cross that boundary it becomes old hat, it's nice but like he said you can never get that back. This holds true for non-sharing themes as well, the best moment is often that first time there's a sexual event, or first time some LI crosses significant boundaries.

I've thought about this with my own game design; and how to best provide this feeling again and again. Obviously you don't want the teasing phase to go too long as it'll feel like milking or blue-ball simulator, but I wonder if there's another mechanic to give players that feeling again and again.

My own thoughts:

The simplest way is to have multiple LIs you can build up, so the player gets this whole "crossing into the verboten" experience and again, fresh anew for each different LI's first time.

Another way would be to have some kind of resource or reset - say "willingness to experiment". When an LI has one of these big boundary-crossing events, that score resets to a low value. It can then be increased again gradually over time with more 'safe' day-to-day activities like dates or spending time together.

If anyone has any other mechanical ideas on this topic I'd love to hear them; rare is the game breaking the mold of (1) Meet LI/get familiar, (2) Gradual sexual escalation, (3) Repeat 2 and increase corruption/lewdness. With this formula, it's only a matter of time before a typical male player gets bored.
First things first id say that I found my home here in this topic, great Thread.
I read all the 27 pages of this thread lol.
Now about your thoughts, there is a way to do this, maybe more than one.
So the way i see this, (i want to say i have never seen this in any VN) the Girlf./Wife will lost her memory, not before all the kink staff as already happened, so you have to corrupt her again, put her in the path she was before i.e. Nts/sharing.
This is just an idea in its raw state!
How much does she remember or how far back in the past does she remember is up to the dev, how did she lose her memory? Car accident? Fall? Or maybe the mc will found a device like the one in the movie Mans in Black and use it in her not knowing what this device does of course.
In any case this would make a fresh start, if written and rendered correctly, every scene would be like the first time for her of course.
There are other ways like going back in time, like Butterfly Effect.. let me know what you and the others think, i think someday i will make my own game i just hope this day will be soon i have alot of creativity but lack in technical staff .
 

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First things first id say that I found my home here in this topic, great Thread.
I read all the 27 pages of this thread lol.
Now about your thoughts, there is a way to do this, maybe more than one.
So the way i see this, (i want to say i have never seen this in any VN) the Girlf./Wife will lost her memory, not before all the kink staff as already happened, so you have to corrupt her again, put her in the path she was before i.e. Nts/sharing.
This is just an idea in its raw state!
How much does she remember or how far back in the past does she remember is up to the dev, how did she lose her memory? Car accident? Fall? Or maybe the mc will found a device like the one in the movie Mans in Black and use it in her not knowing what this device does of course.
In any case this would make a fresh start, if written and rendered correctly, every scene would be like the first time for her of course.
There are other ways like going back in time, like Butterfly Effect.. let me know what you and the others think, i think someday i will make my own game i just hope this day will be soon i have alot of creativity but lack in technical staff .
Ive played a game that is somewhat similar not a NTR or sharing game tho it does have some NTR scenes. But your idea reminds me alot of My girlfriends Amnesia a Daniel K game I believe.
 

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Ive played a game that is somewhat similar not a NTR or sharing game tho it does have some NTR scenes. But your idea reminds me alot of My girlfriends Amnesia a Daniel K game I believe.
Yes, I played this one, but from what I remember she no longer has any memory at the beginning of the story, so it's completely different from restarting, having her lose her memory in the middle of the story, with all the kink already done, this gives a completely different perspective.
 

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Yes, I played this one, but from what I remember she no longer has any memory at the beginning of the story, so it's completely different from restarting, having her lose her memory in the middle of the story, with all the kink already done, this gives a completely different perspective.
o yeah it's still pretty different just as close as I can think of in terms of story
 

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First things first id say that I found my home here in this topic, great Thread.
I read all the 27 pages of this thread lol.
Now about your thoughts, there is a way to do this, maybe more than one.
So the way i see this, (i want to say i have never seen this in any VN) the Girlf./Wife will lost her memory, not before all the kink staff as already happened, so you have to corrupt her again, put her in the path she was before i.e. Nts/sharing.
This is just an idea in its raw state!
How much does she remember or how far back in the past does she remember is up to the dev, how did she lose her memory? Car accident? Fall? Or maybe the mc will found a device like the one in the movie Mans in Black and use it in her not knowing what this device does of course.
In any case this would make a fresh start, if written and rendered correctly, every scene would be like the first time for her of course.
There are other ways like going back in time, like Butterfly Effect.. let me know what you and the others think, i think someday i will make my own game i just hope this day will be soon i have alot of creativity but lack in technical staff .
Could do it like the movie "50 First Dates". Where every day/week, she forgets everything, and you have to go through it all again. Maybe you messed up last time, so you change up how you do things. Could be interesting. (or really annoying).
 

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Could do it like the movie "50 First Dates". Where every day/week, she forgets everything, and you have to go through it all again. Maybe you messed up last time, so you change up how you do things. Could be interesting. (or really annoying).
Well if you use this more than once the 'new' feeling will disappear, same thing with going back in time, it would only have to be done once, after all the kink staff has already happened, right in the middle of the game.
If well executed it would be perfect, obviously FMC need to be hot as hell.
 

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I think i see someone wanting a VN with pregnancy A Struggle With Sin got you covered, Kate is you girl for this, maybe there are others womens too i don't know, this game is huge and get update monthly.
Talking about pregnancy i remembered this VN Sugar Baby Galore, i think this VN can be in this list too?! There is a path with sharing some of the girls,
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I think i don't see this one in your list too Johnny Rebellion: The Beginning and part 2 Rebellion: Rise of the Damned, in the second one as sharing, the first i think is vanilla staff only but you need to know the history right so go for the two of them.
This one you need to see for yourself Unholy Angel: Wedding Adventures the art style is western this i'm sure, there will be cheating and sharing this i'm sure too, but still.. i think it is in early development stages, so the really hot staff is yet to happen.. check this out Johnny!
 
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I think i see someone wanting a VN with pregnancy A Struggle With Sin got you covered, Kate is you girl for this, maybe there are others womens too i don't know, this game is huge and get update monthly.
Talking about pregnancy i remembered this VN Sugar Baby Galore, i think this VN can be in this list too?! There is a path with sharing some of the girls,
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I think i don't see this one in your list too Johnny Rebellion: The Beginning and part 2 Rebellion: Rise of the Damned, in the second one as sharing, the first i think is vanilla staff only but you need to know the history right so go for the two of them.
This one you need to see for yourself Unholy Angel: Wedding Adventures the art style is western this i'm sure, there will be cheating and sharing this i'm sure too, but still.. i think it is in early development stages, so the really hot staff is yet to happen.. check this out Johnny!
Yup, definitely added Rebellion, loved the scene at the end in that. Unholy Angel was meh for me, played a lot like a GGGB clone - though some may like it. I'd add it if i put in the fem protag subsection.
 
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I think i don't see this one in your list too Johnny Rebellion: The Beginning and part 2 Rebellion: Rise of the Damned, in the second one as sharing, the first i think is vanilla staff only but you need to know the history right so go for the two of them.
Just for clarity and for those a little slow like me, because I was confused and took a minute to notice/figure it out...:ROFLMAO:
That first link is the Turkish Translation of Rebellion: The Beginning.
The Rebellion: Rise of the Damned link has both parts linked at the bottom of the title post.

Carry on and enjoy.
Looks like a good read btw, have it bookmarked now to give it a try. Not sure how I've missed that one up to now.
 

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Yup, definitely added Rebellion, loved the scene at the end in that. Unholy Angel was meh for me, played a lot like a GGGB clone - though some may like it. I'd add it if i put in the fem protag subsection.
Right Brochacho (lets see if found out the reference ;)), but did you know Unholy Angel is dual protag right? The game of Eva Kiss you compared is female protag only!
Nothing about 'Sugar Baby Galore'?
 

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Nothing about 'Sugar Baby Galore'?
I liked it ok. Same dev doing Wifey's Dilemma.
Was more harem building than sharing focus, but it does have some sharing/NTR options.
It was weird to me to build a harem but have the option to let other dudes get one of "my girls" pregnant...
Really? Not gonna happen in my harem...:ROFLMAO:
 
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Right Brochacho (lets see if found out the reference ;)), but did you know Unholy Angel is dual protag right? The game of Eva Kiss you compared is female protag only!
Nothing about 'Sugar Baby Galore'?
I suppose that's fair, it is dual protag, I shouldnt let my personal biases affect the inclusion of something (y) , also added Sugar Babes.

Though on Unholy Angel - is there really much sharing content yet? I could be wrong, but if my memory serves me it's almost all female cheating stuff / vs faithful relationship stuff (much like the bulk of ORS/GGGB).
I liked it ok. Same dev doing Wifey's Dilemma.
Was more harem building than sharing focus, but it does have some sharing/NTR options.
It was weird to me to build a harem but have the option to let other dudes get one of "my girls" pregnant...
Really? Not gonna happen in my harem...:ROFLMAO:
Yeah to me at had the all the odd hallmarks of 3diddly games - but those who crave interracial and pregnancy options will delight.
 
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