VN Others Abandoned Wet Nightmares [v3.4] [erkerut]

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sonicmaste

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Henley, your idea of people here is insanely wrong...
I know that a lot of people here are just lurking for cracks and stuff, but there's also a part of the community that is passionate and just have their reasons to do so.
Those reasons can lead to becoming a buyer later.

You can dislike it as you want, that's normal, I understand, but show some respect because you don't know who you're talking to.

Also, please, don't do things like telling people to try create a game to people you don't know... I do actually.

I'll not talk about it anymore tho, I'm disappointed but I get it...



- skip options are based on your selection of the options menu. Unseen text, Dialogue choices, etc.
- the save prompt shows up if you leave the game while playing the story. if you say no, its won't take you to the save menu.
- the dev cta has no buttons, so that is working as intended. The language page feedback we will take on.
- I know, I tell you that it stopped working completely after some menuing, had to reboot the game fully.
- iirc, I exited the game, had the prompt, clicked yes, but I think I had the log page open, or something like that, then it glitched out the save menu, you should multiply test of different way to exit the game and see if some glitch out the save menu when selecting yes.
- I mean, it skip the dev page fully by doing so on the language page.
 
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Henley

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Henley, your idea of people here is insanely wrong...
I know that a lot of people here are just lurking for cracks and stuff, but there's also a part of the community that is passionate and just have their reasons to do so.
Those reasons can lead to becoming a buyer later.

You can dislike it as you want, that's normal, I understand, but show some respect because you don't know who you're talking to.

Also, please, don't do things like telling people to try create a game to people you don't know... I do actually.

I'll not talk about it anymore tho, I'm disappointed but I get it...
You're right, I don't know who I am talking to. But neither do you. So you also shouldn't generalize but you do. And if you are a game dev, you should know what it takes to make something commercially successful to the point you can support humans on. So why are you out here advocating piracy like it's some sort of savor to the industry? I will tell anyone who wants to learn about game dev exactly what we do, what we've done right/wrong so people can learn from us, I do it all the time. I am as transparent as a piece of glass. Heck, I'll even help developers with the RIGHT way to sell on steam and sites so they can make a living doing what they love. I am not gate-keeping shit.

Make the game, don't pretend you know what's best. The term armchair general comes to mind here.

I'll treat everyone on this site the same, until they prove otherwise that they do want to support the development of our products instead of getting free smut to jolkn' too. Respect is earned, not gifted for free.
 
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lo0u

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I see it like this, you all have a couple of choices now. Accept the fact that you're pirating my game and quit moaning about how long professional production work takes, or do as you have been and receive nasty comments from me calling out the bullshit - and before you think otherwise this is not directed at Nekuta even if I am replying to their comment, its more a blanket statement to anyone thinking about complaining.
Get over yourself. Your game is unfinished after 5 years and it has even less content now with this "remake".

You don't deserve a single penny from anyone here. Imagine being entitled to other people's money, when this is what you offer them.

There are hundreds of other games here that actually deserve support and a lot of people here DO support them. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.
 

Henley

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Get over yourself. Your game is unfinished after 5 years and it has even less content now with this "remake".

You don't deserve a single penny from anyone here. Imagine being entitled to other people's money, when this is what you offer them.

There are hundreds of other games here that actually deserve support and a lot of people here DO support them. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.
lol okay. By that logic you are not entitled to my game either. Regardless of what you think of the content offerings the game needs to be functional and that is where our focus was placed. so you know, that.
 

lo0u

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lol okay. By that logic you are not entitled to my game either. Regardless of what you think of the content offerings the game needs to be functional and that is where our focus was placed. so you know, that.
Of course I am not entitled to anything, when have I said that? I am not demanding anything here, you are, while offering fuck all in return.

5 years and this is what you offer, while having multiple unfinished projects on the side and you want to berate people on this forum, because they're not giving you money. Are you for real, mate?

Many people here would never buy your game or support it. Just like many here would've never heard of your game if not for this website, but I can guarantee you that many would buy it or support you if they thought the game was good enough.

It isn't good enough.
 

Henley

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Of course I am not entitled to anything, when have I said that? I am not demanding anything here, you are, while offering fuck all in return.

5 years and this is what you offer, while having multiple unfinished projects on the side and you want to berate people on this forum, because they're not giving you money. Are you for real, mate?

Many people here would never buy your game or support it. Just like many here would've never heard of your game if not for this website, but I can guarantee you that many would buy it or support you if they thought the game was good enough.

It isn't good enough.
Okay.
 

Destroy08xx

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Many people here would never buy your game or support it. Just like many here would've never heard of your game if not for this website, but I can guarantee you that many would buy it or support you if they thought the game was good enough.

It isn't good enough.
People are supporting the dev
Of course I am not entitled to anything, when have I said that? I am not demanding anything here, you are, while offering fuck all in return.
Many users here are not doing piracy a favor either, the amount of toxic and entitled behavior will not earn the support for piracy, and instead will create more enemies for pirates.

What others are actually saying: We want these games for free without giving anything in return.

How is that fair to the game devs who are working on games, when games are being pirated and negativity is being spread about devs and their games. Which further hurts them.
 
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lo0u

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Many users here are not doing piracy a favor either, the amount of toxic and entitled behavior will not earn the support for piracy,
So what? Piracy doesn't need support, it just exists. Do you think the devs are going to support it? :LOL:

What others are actually saying: We want these games for free without giving anything in return.
These people would never buy the game regardless. I think I mentioned that before. But there are always those who will, if they think the game is good enough, which is why coming to this website as a developer and being a douche to people makes no sense.

How is that fair to the game devs who are working on games, when games are being pirated and negativity is being spread about devs and their games.
It's fair, because the negativity is warranted. You don't see this level of negativity in games that deliver. You see this in games that are being milked on, or that are completely bare bones after years like this one. Especially when the dev starts bashing people on the forum.

But I think I made my point and I haven't demanded anything. The reason I posted to begin with wasn't even because of the content itself, but because of the dev's reaction to people here, despite delivering a completely bare bones game after 5 years.
 

sonicmaste

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Basically: some of us want to buy the game, but we still share for now the experience while pirating it, because we don't want to put money in projects that just... don't post updates... this is a common thing, projects in that domain are really often just a cash grab...

5 years later, we still see that it is not worth it, and we are disappointed because we wanted to see this project being something more than a way to take money from people for a decade long before seeing the whole story.

Good ideas and a good demo is not enough to earn our trust to pay for a demo in hope one day we will play the game.

Maybe Dev think we are like "oh yeah! That game is awesome! Happy to play it for free lmao", but a lot of us are more like "oh, that project is interesting! I hope it will be took seriously as a real game and make it a full game soon."
Often that's not the case, like taking 5 years to.... transfert already made content to a new engine...
Oh god...

That doesn't make us good for pirating, it is not something that ANYONE should be proud of, but damn...
 
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Henley

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Basically: some of us want to buy the game, but we still share for now the experience while pirating it, because we don't want to put money in projects that just... don't post updates... this is a common thing, projects in that domain are really often just a cash grab...

5 years later, we still see that it is not worth it, and we are disappointed because we wanted to see this project being something more than a way to take money from people for a decade long before seeing the whole story.

Good ideas and a good demo is not enough to earn our trust to pay for a demo in hope one day we will play the game.

Maybe Dev think we are like "oh yeah! That game is awesome! Happy to play it for free lmao", but a lot of us are more like "oh, that project is interesting! I hope it will be took seriously as a real game and make it a full game soon."
Often that's not the case, like taking 5 years to.... transfert already made content to a new engine...
Oh god...

That doesn't make us good for pirating, it is not something that ANYONE should be proud of, but damn...
Where are you getting 5 years from? Clearly you have no idea what or when we did things or whatever. Let's be real here. Me not doing everything in my power to purge the game from the piracy sites (because I am in my legal right to do so) is like me saying you folks can enjoy it. However you saying you want to see yourself as virtuous for it, na mate. See it for what it is already. Don't like it? Cool. Don't play it, you're not paying for it anyway. If you don't want to buy my stuff that is fine as well, you're within your right to not buy things, it's your money. You saying "be happy we pirate it because maybe we will buy it but now we won't" is just... the dumbest, knuckle dragger, most brain dead thought I have come across.

At the end of the day you're gonna do whatever you want. Nothing I say or do will change it. Just know I'm not here to take backshots from you son.
 
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Dfour

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Where are you getting 5 years from? Clearly you have no idea what or when we did things or whatever. Let's be real here. Me not doing everything in my power to purge the game from the piracy sites (because I am in my legal right to do so) is like me saying you folks can enjoy it. However you saying you want to see yourself as virtuous for it, na mate. See it for what it is already. Don't like it? Cool. Don't play it, you're not paying for it anyway. If you don't want to buy my stuff that is fine as well, you're within your right to not buy things, it's your money. You saying "be happy we pirate it because maybe we will buy it but now we won't" is just... the dumbest, knuckle dragger, most brain dead thought I have come across.

At the end of the day you're gonna do whatever you want. Nothing I say or do will change it. Just know I'm not here to take backshots from you son.
Why are you here fighting an already lost fight? Not even big companies with large lawyer's firms and deep pockets can get rid of piracy, what makes you think you rolling in the proverbial mud will? What's worse, you seem to get even more bitter by the day, why do you then subject yourself to this? There are uses and reasons why devs are here despite the content shared and that is feedback. They don't try to fight the hydra, they try to leech off of it because raw input can always be useful wherever it comes from.
Also what you call brain dead is actually a proven point; . Of course, it's not about encouraging it and you're fully within your rights to try and fend off as much as possible the impossible monster, but if your angle means mudding your name then you're the one hindering this game and any future endeavors.
Don't clap at piracy, it's an issue for devs like you that are small and barely making ends meet. But don't make a buffoon of yourself because that's a hard label to take off, look at Yanderedev. Although you can monetize buffoonery so...
 

sonicmaste

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Where are you getting 5 years from?
2019 -> 2024, yes we know the release of the "alpha" was ~3 years ago tho.

You saying "be happy we pirate it because maybe we will buy it but now we won't" is just... the dumbest, knuckle dragger, most brain dead thought I have come across.
Oh. My. God! Nobody said that, I even said that there is nothing to be proud of!
We just try to stay in our closet, in our community, talking about the game, but you showed up, and because you weren't happy about our reaction, you insult us.
What do you want us to do then?
Yeah, pirating is bad, we still can't put money in all projects of ero games, but easy to guess that a project where the developer just spit on us like that will not really be the project we ever want to support tho...
That piss me off that it was on the project I was the most hyped for.

I, personally, never asked for you to be happy about it, I never had any communication with you, specially because I have no rights to do so for now.

Nothing I say or do will change it.
Oh yes, it does...

Just know I'm not here to take backshots from you son.
I'll end it here and never talk about this ever again: All of this started because you dug inside OUR discussion and deceptions;
nobody ever asked you anything, as we should because we are not (yet or ever) your customer.
We have no rights to do so, that's normal.

Your reaction was to backshot us tho, because you see us as consumer that will never become customer, and you are certainly right for a lot of people that downloaded your game.
But people that talk about it CAN become a customer, specially the ones that seriously talk about the issues.
The others don't care about a game they didn't bought, so why they will comment on the issues?
 
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Destroy08xx

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Why are you here fighting an already lost fight? Not even big companies with large lawyer's firms and deep pockets can get rid of piracy, what makes you think you rolling in the proverbial mud will? What's worse, you seem to get even more bitter by the day, why do you then subject yourself to this? There are uses and reasons why devs are here despite the content shared and that is feedback. They don't try to fight the hydra, they try to leech off of it because raw input can always be useful wherever it comes from.
Also what you call brain dead is actually a proven point; . Of course, it's not about encouraging it and you're fully within your rights to try and fend off as much as possible the impossible monster, but if your angle means mudding your name then you're the one hindering this game and any future endeavors.
Don't clap at piracy, it's an issue for devs like you that are small and barely making ends meet. But don't make a buffoon of yourself because that's a hard label to take off, look at Yanderedev. Although you can monetize buffoonery so...
When this dev and others are having their games leaked, pirated and slandered, makes you wonder why people group up and hunt down pirates. I've seen too much toxicity and entitlement from this community. These devs are working on games and people want to leach off of their work, that is not fair to these devs.

Pirates already have enough enemies, making more isn't going to help. Pirates are not invincible after all, there are reports of heavy fines and imprisonment for piracy. Latest one was a few days ago and the guy is facing 8 years in prison.
 
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Scratty

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Been waiting for a long time for this game to get some attention.
Sadly the new route made me lose interest in it. I personally didn't like it that the MC is now a big jackass.
 

Henley

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Been waiting for a long time for this game to get some attention.
Sadly the new route made me lose interest in it. I personally didn't like it that the MC is now a big jackass.
He always has been? He has less edge now for sure.
 
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Dfour

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Been waiting for a long time for this game to get some attention.
Sadly the new route made me lose interest in it. I personally didn't like it that the MC is now a big jackass.
Wdym he was a rapist since the first demo. If anything he nows at least try to be more "want to sleep, give me sex" than straight "get naked and spread those cheeks".
 

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I mean he's still clearly a serial rapist and murderer, but he is vastly less abrasive this time. I honestly kind of enjoy the typewriter sheet and how you can just understand most of it enough to get the idea.
 
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