Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.03] [MagicNuts]

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magicnuts said:
- The update is not late. For it to be late, it will need to have a release date, something we didn't have until a few days ago when I said 0.5 will be released in September. The 3-5 month statement is followed by a qualifier indicating, reasonably, I think, that the actual time will vary depending on the update and the content. Why did we decide to offer a refund then? Two reasons: 1) because we wrongly assumed that some of our patrons may have missed that qualifier. Wrongly, because the number of patrons who actually requested a refund could be counted on the fingers of one hand. 2) I noticed we had many new patrons and assumed that some of those may have joined us as they saw the progress tracker nearing completion, and wanted to make sure they don't feel cheated by what I consider the normal procedure of developing our content (again, a wrong assumption as it turned out).

- I see an increasing number of people who claim to be patrons call us names, be rudely unhappy about our approach, and then disappear once I reach out to confirm their account and refund their pledges. The offer stands, and if you're dissatisfied with our approach, please get in touch with us on Patreon (or Discord if you have paired your account), and I will give any pledges you have made to us in the past three months (Patreon's limit).

- Most of the talk about 'perfectionism' misses the point that you or others probably wouldn't have liked the game enough to bother to post a message about it if it didn't have the degree of polish it has right now. Wanting us to rush the last and one of the most crucial stages of development is absurd and illogical for anyone who actually likes the game. You assume we're overly anal, but what we're doing is what we did for the last updates and what we will do for the future ones. It's okay not to like the way we handle the polish phase of our development, but I see the job we're doing right now as what differentiates an okay update from a good one.

- The progress has slowed down because we only mark the bugs being found and fixed, but testing and looking for errors still takes a huge amount of time. If anything, we're working more hours now than ever.

- The game is not extremely buggy to require so much debugging. It has nearly twice the number of words of the previous update, and all those words have posing, coding, images, etc. attached to them that may require extra fixes or changes. On top of that, since the main story update involves several other characters, we have had to go back and edit and test content from 0.3 and 0.4 to make sure they don't interfere with one another, and you can play them in any order and for them to still somewhat make sense.

- Are we adding new content during this final phase? Probably not, at least nothing major. That being said, I have no problem adding or cutting things if I feel it will give players a better experience. The update will be out in September, and we will make whatever decision we feel will improve the game before that.

- Will the content be amazing after all the wait? I hope so, but I cannot guarantee that since the content is not tailor-made to suit any individual. The 0.5 update focuses on the Main Story, and so if you're into the story and like Lana's character, I think you will enjoy it. If not, I suggest you adjust your expectations.
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Suggest you link to this from the OP where you state the typical release time. Sad to say but people have short memories and what-have-you-done-for-me-lately is prevalent, so we'll hear the same complaints before next release comes out. Not that having it linked will stop the complaints, but maybe it'll help to point to this instead of retyping everything for the Nth time.

Definitely psyched to play it soon. Thanks, for all your efforts, from the silent majority.
 
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Porn_Jesus said:
It doesn't matter how you deal with it.

-no eta = game dead

-eta = they will fail even when the deadline is still a thing or if you are slightly over it = game dead

-giving a rough idea when it might happen = dev has no time management skills

-going full Blizzard and using the phrase "it's done when it's done" = they milk cash.

It's a nightmare. :FacePalm:
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Yoda would say, "My own counsel will I keep on when my game released shall be. A player must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the next update."
 
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Today's progress tracker reached 100%. It's also stated on the weekly report posted here earlier but here's the disclaimer that appears in their discord channel:
Note: Please note that despite reaching 100% in all tasks, we will still take a few days to make sure there are no additional issues and the update is ready. It is unlikely that 0.5 will be released publicly before Friday, so please be patient. Excessive complaints or spamming the same question repeatedly will only hinder our work. We will release the update as soon as we think it is ready (pinging everyone), first for the patrons, depending on their tiers, and then publicly the day after that. Thanks.
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- We will still take a few days to make sure there are no additional issues and the update is ready.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
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magicnuts said:
- I see an increasing number of people who claim to be patrons call us names, be rudely unhappy about our approach, and then disappear once I reach out to confirm their account and refund their pledges. The offer stands, and if you're dissatisfied with our approach, please get in touch with us on Patreon (or Discord if you have paired your account), and I will give any pledges you have made to us in the past three months (Patreon's limit).
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For the sake of your mental wellness, please, don't waste time with utter dickheads.
 
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sexypeanut said:
There are literally thousands of other games here. If one is taking 'too long' to update, why not search for newly updated ones and play them instead of complaining ad infinitum about this one?
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This isn't the only game thread getting constantly derailed by people screaming "SCAM! MILKING!" recently. I'm hoping it's just students who still have free time because the school year just started and will die down as they accumulate coursework.
 
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hrimthyrs said:
This isn't the only game thread getting constantly derailed by people screaming "SCAM! MILKING!" recently. I'm hoping it's just students who still have free time because the school year just started and will die down as they accumulate coursework.
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As someone mentioned, the same happens with other games for years and it'll be a constant issue here, too. It's just one of the downsides of creating something that's popular.
 
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j4yj4m said:
As someone mentioned, the same happens with other games for years and it'll be a constant issue here, too. It's just one of the downsides of creating something that's popular.
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Nah, this is different. Yes, you always get people popping in from time to time to pop off about how it's been longer than whatever their personal, arbitrary standard of "long enough" between updates is and, therefore, the dev is just running a scam, but the argument they spawn always dies down quickly. What's been going on lately is multiple games that have different lengths of time since their last update all, at the same time, have enough people coming in to screech about scams that they can consistently derail the thread. Just look at this thread in recent days: people have tried getting us back on track discussing the actual content of the game a couple times only for somebody to run back in within 24 hours and derail again by regurgitating the same already-debunked claims that MagicNuts are just running a scam.

Even with games that aren't popular and only get a small burst of comments every month or so, the most recent burst are people yammering about how the game has been secretly abandoned while the dev coasts on continued Patreon income.
 
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