A well deserved tag, finally. The game is great, but the development time is horrible. I am also a developer and I know what can be done in 2 months, in real languages and real apps, not these python jokes. Yes, the art takes time to do it, but the guy doing development should always be miles ahead of the art.
Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.03] [MagicNuts]
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Only 18 months? That's generous at this rate. I thought the Something Unlimited guys were bad at pushing updates. This is just pathetic, and the fact their Kekreon subs are still valiantly defending muh magicnuts boggles my mind, like mans taking their money and running to the cleaners. If MN wants the meming to end maybe he should push the next update, and before the year's up
It'll be another 5 years before we see the Orc girl get any love at this rate and that's what upsets me most.
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They didn't really said that every time they "change" the text they need to "change" the poses but you can read it has every "new" text line needs a "new" pose but your point of view may still be the currect one but it's not the only one and without a confirmation these are only 2 different ways interpret it.
- Mar 1, 2018
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Yeah I was being extreme, but it's cause the excuses they used as to why it was taking so long are a bit dumb to be honest, I mean I played the game since launch, while the art is fcking fantastic, the character poses during dialogue are nothing crazy, it's not like there is lip sync XD
My point being that it's a shitty excuse to say they have to redrawn or repose when they change a word or ONE line of dialogue (Cause I refuse to believe they change a conversation so drastically that they have to entirely change the expression and pose of a character that is talking)
- Jun 17, 2019
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Let's say you have a 10-lines dialogue between 2 characters. That means 10 different poses for each character, as those poses changes at every single line (just open any rpy file and take a look at the code), with each pose consisting of at least 3 elements (eyes, mouth, hands). That's 60 individual elements in that dialogue matching what it's said. Now, when you got it done, you replay the whole section and feel that this dialogue just doesn't flow. You need to trim it down which not only means deleting maybe 4 lines but also rewriting the other 6 to convey the intended message. Chances are that many of the current poses for those 6 lines won't exactly fit the new dialogue (maybe there was a shocked expression when now some rolling eyes would be a better fit). So you may need to look carefully at the new scene and change 15 or 20 elements of the 36 remaining. That's gonna take some time. And sure, they could have write the whole script and change whatever needed to be changed before start with the posing, but it's only when everything is added when you can really tell if the section works or naw.
That's just how it is with this game, and also the reason why people feel it's a polished work where everything going on the screen flows smoothly, even if they can't really point at the actual reason. And again, full disclosure from devs who quickly put a stop to those wild speculations about the release date. Even if you don't believe their reasons or excuses, no one following the official sources is being misled to believe the update is close.
- Mar 1, 2018
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Eh no need to white knight it, I'm not paying a penny anyways, so I don't mind the delay, I'm just throwing my 2 cents into the pot about the excuses they make. I'll be honest with you the reason I feel that way, is cause I never really felt like the dialogue expression where crazy good or polished anyways, the mc often has a thinking face with hand on chin, or a smile in most conversations xD but that could only be, I play this game mainly for the "plot" So I'm probably biased on that point
- Jun 17, 2019
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It's not whiteknighting, it's a fair discussion. You said you think it was a shitty excuse and I just played devil's advocate to point out why it could be used as a proper explanation, if you extrapolate it to the thousands of dialogue lines in the game.
The last paragraph was more like a general statement, not a direct response to you.
I know that the forum's rules says that the game should get the abandoned tag, but wouldn't be more prececise use the ongoing tag?
- Apr 18, 2020
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Wait. Are you serious? You do know that this coming update is Gomira, right? The orc girl.
- Jun 20, 2019
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I don't think this game can be saved.
- Sep 17, 2020
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6th project dat i been following dat got abandoned this week 
It's NOT, it's just a fucking tag!6th project dat i been following dat got abandoned this week
6th project dat i been following dat got abandoned this week
yeah, hopefully the devs pick it up again in this lifetime
the game was ok when i played it 10 years ago
Well F95 has called it abandon, but it's still being developed. But yeh I agree almost 2 years no update is far too long. So I actually do agree with the 'abandon' tag, and it will be automatically removed when an update should arrive. But that will takes a few months if not longer. I wonder if we see an update before the 2 year boundary...
Yeah it doesn't make sense. They just have a few set poses / expressions for dialogue (happy, angry, sad, scrunched face etc). Each line of text just has a pose that goes with it. You change 1 string!
- Jun 26, 2022
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A few weeks back, I read that posing isn't actually redrawing stuff. They do like you said, it only needs to be re-put-together. And probably it could mean some drawings don't fit. But yeh most of them are just faces that are selected.
Still... The update has to be really great for it to not be a disappointment by now...