Donfreezer

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"Since the game isn’t in active production at the moment—apart from the Captain’s story rewrite—we’ve decided that there’s no immediate need to keep the Patreon open for payments. "

Yeah, that's what honest devs do when they are not developing anything, which was never the case here.
Story rewrite? You mean the exact same thing they were doing for a year during the last update, except they called it "bug fixing"?
 

moskyx

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Story rewrite? You mean the exact same thing they were doing for a year during the last update, except they called it "bug fixing"?
This is going offtopic but from the post you linked it's obvious that almost the whole team have been laid off and the main dev is focusing on creating a brand new story from scratch; and only later, when they are happy enough with the new story, they'll bring some people back again and start the proper game development. In WaL, the game was always under development and the artist were doing her job all along while the writer modified the sections they were not happy with.

There's a clear difference in those situations: one game has returned to the planning phase as it wasn't working at all as intended, while the other was fixing some serious shortcomings in terms of expected quality from certain scenes in an specific update. WaL's devs didn't need to stop and think where they wanted to go with their game as a whole, only how to make that specific character's path more enjoyable.

Not to mention the whole working dynamics are completely different on both teams, with Magicnuts working as a single creative brain despite being two people, while the other project is seemingly using a top-down approach, with one person in charge of the creative area and then a bunch of different writers, coders, and artists coming and going while trying to implement this guy's ideas -therefore, it makes sense for them to pause pledges if none of these people can't actually work on the game until the new story is satisfyingly fleshed out first.

Finally, as it was never denied, being a married couple with a family exclusively living off this Patreon income is obviously a factor when you have to make this kind of choices, compared to the (probably less severe) financial implications of such decision for what seems to be a diverse team ensambled for a project that never really took off as expected. Anyway, kudos to them for pausing pledges and offering some detailed and coherent info about it, and good luck in this rework process.
 

HarryFlash

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Nah, it's gonna be shorter, like a half of Gomira's. They just changed the way they estimate tasks
I hope your right. We should find out quickly enough. They update their tracker fairly regularly so we should get a rough idea of how many tasks per day they average over the next few weeks.
 
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Finuee

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I hope your right. We should find out quickly enough. They update their tracker fairly regularly so we should get a rough idea of how many tasks per day they average over the next few weeks.
I'm holding off on making progress curve analysis until there's a few weeks of data, as initial data is always very skewed. It's at the beginning that tasks are added more frequently, so that skewes the trend predictions.
 

ProfN42

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If after Holly we get content for the fairy girl, I'll be a happy guy. They are my two favorites out of all the girls in the game.
Don't hold your breath... you and I seem to be the only two Maple fans in existence. :( She's probably never going to win the poll. I think on top of that, all the Patreon TOS silliness has probably thrown enough of a scare into the Nuts that they'll just avoid ever adding more content for her. The fact that they had to add special dialogue to the existing Maple scene was so utterly ridiculous. If I were a dev I would never want to waste a minute of my time creating art and coding for scenes that I might have to later go back and delete from the game to protect myself from legal or financial risk. It sucks but this is just the reality of H games being made using Patreon money.

Maybe if we're lucky we'll get another "pinup" shot of her from Lambert. That way it's easy to remove if they have to.
 
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Maulis47

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If after Holly we get content for the fairy girl, I'll be a happy guy. They are my two favorites out of all the girls in the game.
Don't hold your breath... you and I seem to be the only two Maple fans in existence. :( She's probably never going to win the poll. I think on top of that, all the Patreon TOS silliness has probably thrown enough of a scare into the Nuts that they'll just avoid ever adding more content for her. The fact that they had to add special dialogue to the existing Maple scene was so utterly ridiculous. If I were a dev I would never want to waste a minute of my time creating art and coding for scenes that I might have to later go back and delete from the game to protect myself from legal or financial risk. It sucks but this is just the reality of H games being made using Patreon money.

Maybe if we're lucky we'll get another "pinup" shot of her from Lambert. That way it's easy to remove if they have to.
If I remember right, someone from a few pages ago posted what could be voted on and Maple was part of the main story updates. So yes in that regard she will most likely not get an update of her own but will most likely get a few scenes as part of the main story progress.
 
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DemiMaximoff

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Was there more unlockable photos from the sheep in the Gomira update? I totally forgot to check that, and already deleted the game.
 

moskyx

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Don't hold your breath... you and I seem to be the only two Maple fans in existence. :( She's probably never going to win the poll. I think on top of that, all the Patreon TOS silliness has probably thrown enough of a scare into the Nuts that they'll just avoid ever adding more content for her. The fact that they had to add special dialogue to the existing Maple scene was so utterly ridiculous. If I were a dev I would never want to waste a minute of my time creating art and coding for scenes that I might have to later go back and delete from the game to protect myself from legal or financial risk. It sucks but this is just the reality of H games being made using Patreon money.

Maybe if we're lucky we'll get another "pinup" shot of her from Lambert. That way it's easy to remove if they have to.
Maple's quest is now part of the main story and she'll get content in 0.9
 

Finuee

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下次更新是在一年后吗?
There's no date yet, but the devs promised they'd get back to their usual schedule. If they manage to do so, the update would probably be due out in autumn of this year or so.
 

Ranma

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Don't hold your breath... you and I seem to be the only two Maple fans in existence. :( She's probably never going to win the poll. I think on top of that, all the Patreon TOS silliness has probably thrown enough of a scare into the Nuts that they'll just avoid ever adding more content for her. The fact that they had to add special dialogue to the existing Maple scene was so utterly ridiculous. If I were a dev I would never want to waste a minute of my time creating art and coding for scenes that I might have to later go back and delete from the game to protect myself from legal or financial risk. It sucks but this is just the reality of H games being made using Patreon money.

Maybe if we're lucky we'll get another "pinup" shot of her from Lambert. That way it's easy to remove if they have to.
I do like Maple as well (although I have both Gretta and Lady Madeline Goldenbush above her in my personal rankings), and I'm also sad and disappointed to see her storyline and potential future content get pretty much butchered thanks to yet another one of Patreon's crackdowns on what they deem to be "problematic" subjects.
You said it, it really fucking sucks.
 

moskyx

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I do like Maple as well (although I have both Gretta and Lady Madeline Goldenbush above her in my personal rankings), and I'm also sad and disappointed to see her storyline and potential future content get pretty much butchered thanks to yet another one of Patreon's crackdowns on what they deem to be "problematic" subjects.
You said it, it really fucking sucks.
Patreon has nothing to do on Maple's situation. The only change in her current content is a line where the MC explicitly says he was feeling perfectly OK and fully conscious after eating her magical mushroom, as the previous version stated he wasn't really aware of how he ended up naked (even though it wasn't the intention, it could be seen as if he was under the effects of some kind of drug and therefore not exactly consenting). And the changes in her future content are just a change on how the devs see this character and her potential involvement in the Main Story quest, as explained here. So she's actually being promoted, in a sense, going from just a 100% side girl (her current quest is perfectly optional) to be a 'forced LI' on the main story.
 
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robertweed

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when can we expect new update, I visited game 2-3years back, it has gotten a lot of content now, the story interests me. Just wanting to know what update cycle is like for this. Tried searching for word "update", it showed like 50 pages of results, so if someone can help me I would be happy
 

Finuee

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when can we expect new update, I visited game 2-3years back, it has gotten a lot of content now, the story interests me. Just wanting to know what update cycle is like for this. Tried searching for word "update", it showed like 50 pages of results, so if someone can help me I would be happy
There's no set date for the next update. The last one was released very recently, back in December, so it's still too soon for estimates. There's a daily progress track at their public Discord, and it's posted here from time to time. That will give you an idea of progress until the next release.

As for the release cycle, it was usually around 6-12 months. Last update took around 2 years. The devs had some personal issues they talked about, among other reasons, that delayed the release. They've promised to return to the usual schedule, which I believe they will do, but other people have a different opinion. If they do, next update will be probably out by autumn. If they don't, who knows. I'm personally choosing to believe they will, but YMMV.
 

Alexxx888

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when can we expect new update, I visited game 2-3years back, it has gotten a lot of content now, the story interests me. Just wanting to know what update cycle is like for this. Tried searching for word "update", it showed like 50 pages of results, so if someone can help me I would be happy
Come back at the end of 2025
 
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when can we expect new update, I visited game 2-3years back, it has gotten a lot of content now, the story interests me. Just wanting to know what update cycle is like for this. Tried searching for word "update", it showed like 50 pages of results, so if someone can help me I would be happy
I used to watch the progress bar daily and based on what I noticed I think I can give you an estimate of how long it will take, I noticed that Chestnut who is responsible for the game's art usually does one art task per day and this update has 275 art tasks, they update the taskbar 6 days a week (except on Sunday) in short, it will take at least 46 weeks for her to finish all the art for the update but the fun part is that they always end up adding more tasks during development... so this is estimate is not exactly accurate.

If you think this is a long time then let me tell you that she always finishes the art tasks before Pistachio, (who is the guy who does the code and everything else) and he still takes some time to finish all the other tasks before release, in the last update he took almost a whole fucking year to finish the last 10% of the game since Chestnut finished the art on January 4, 2024 and the update was released on December 10th.

Anyway if you have faith that they won't repeat the fiasco that was the end of the development of the last update you can add at least a month or two on top of the 46 weeks and you should have more or less an estimated date of when the next update will come out, unless they hire someone to help to draw the backgrounds or someone to help Pistachio with the code (which I doubt they will) I think it is impossible for the next update to come out this year.
 
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