yes i read your first post and i interpreted it as a direct comparison between triple a games and the indy games. sorry for my misunderstanding but it felt like a comparison between apple and pears.Did you read what I wrote? The games on here are not doing what you have regurgitated from my post.
Would you agree with me that they change or add content based on the input of their fans? You are right that they nearly never overhaul the entire game but that also never happens on other games. For your example about the comics you are unfortunately wrong, lots of comics change during their serialization after input from editor ->publisher ->readers. (ask me how i know, did this shit for more than 30 years). As writer you offer an overview aka global storyboard. Later you change it on demands of your editor, publisher, reader response. Trust me i had my fair share of "you cant write like this!" or "it doesn't fit our line" or "the character is not pleasing" or "too long, too short," , " it need's more...."Most art forms write, rewrite, and retool before public consumption. The games here are not retooling. They fix bugs and spelling errors, but they are not writing, changing their stories, or overhauling their entire game. Their releases function more like a comic book series, however, the difference is that a comic book run is completed and then released bi-weekly, or every month as issues, or in the case of TV, episodes.
edit: back to the original, i got distracted. I could agree with your thesis that the games here are more like a comic series, but there is maybe a reason: lack of money and lack of experience. There are very few indy-devs asking for pre-testing their ideas or gameplay, most devs are just like"i have an idea, let's try".
In my mind the support via patreon (or similar) is important, unfortunately some devs misused this as a "quick money scheme".
no, not the entire movie, normally the movie is split in small chunks and the animatic of those chunks is screened and discussed. The character screening is a separate task. If any of these tasks failed this chunk will be changed or dropped (worst case)Pre-screenings are done for a small group, however, most of those films are not rewritten, re-shot, and overhauled, but rather edited, or shelved. If they are redone and completely overhauled, then it becomes something entirely different. They also show the ENTIRE MOVIE, and not the first 12 minutes! Of course, there is such a thing as screen testing, or panel testing, but again, that is done in a very small group and it is mostly to feel out ideas and topics of the story, or to get a sense for how folks feel about a specific actor on screen. Not the same as what most developers do here.
Sorry, but you wrote it differently in your previous post, the sentence " No, they play the entire song and then gage the audience reaction" is misleading and gave a different impressionAs for musicians... You just proved my point! Yes, when a band/artist records, they go through the process of, "Pre-production." At this time they write, practice, retool, and receive feedback from their producer, A&R, and associates, and NOT THE FANS. They are not releasing their demos to the general public and then saying, "What do you all think?" After pre, they record, then release a single, and then the album.
Oh, that's a nice wish unfortunately the real world is not so kind. You even mentioned this somehow in your post. You will find lot's of examples where the artist has to change their work up to the point it's no longer their original work. Let me phrase this like : the artist is always right until job or money is involved. Best example would be the patreon drama when the fanbase decide the content of a game. Or as an artist try to create a film for company's like netflix, you are in for a bad surprise.The Artist is always right, and knows what is best best for their art. They are not and should not be making art for us, but rather themselves. If it is true, then they will find folks who wish to fund their passion.
exact my thought, haha. Heck, sometimes i wish we could discuss such things direct in person and not in a limited area with written argumentsSeriously, who gives a F*!@? Also, yes, I enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing... HAHA
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