What would be you ideal game?

[lfgals1]

I'm a big fan of trainer games, but in general they don't really deliver on the core gameplay loop they promise.

They present these Stat pages and activities to manipulate those stats. Manipulated stats lead to new behaviors and new scenes. However, usually the stats are a lie and you're actually on a fairly straightforward VN.

I want a game that actually delivers on the trainer game system. Fairly sandbox, with a variety of ways to interact with the female character(s), those interactions adjust stats that change how she talks, acts, dresses, her routines, and her willingness to bang. All without sacrificing the story and character elements that I enjoy.

I would also like different combinations of stats to have different outcomes.

• Brainless bimbo cum dumpster
• Bratty sub
• Lovey pet
• stepfordization (trad wife)
• Obedient defeated slave (she is sad about being owned but can't fight the pelasure)

It doesn't exist because it is an absolutely massive ammount of work to do.

 

[woody554]

It still an engine & takes chunks of coding to do anything special in it outside of a slideshow

that happens because the strategy of using an "easily modified framework with a free use agreement so simpletons like me could try make our own games" is inherently far more restrictive than making everything from scratch. getting around that forces all kinds of complexities, compromises, unwanted redundancy and bugs. that's why almost all software nowadays is gigantic, incredibly slow and bad.

making it all from scratch would not only run 100x faster but also remove all the systemic clunkyness. but then you need to learn to actually program yourself, and most people are more afraid of that minor challenge than using years to troubleshoot platforms, frameworks and libraries they're using to 'make it easier'.

 

[balitz Method]

What I would like is a truly Replayable and Dynamic Erotic Game.
Where you can download character mods and personalities to your game have a fun time playing.
Something like Artificial Academy but that has some actual Gameplay and is intresting to play as.

Definitely wish Artificial Academy was a real game and not just a loose context for sex animations. Especially the earlier ones, before they gave up on the idea of having actual male characters. Even as-is some interesting stories would develop. I still think about this male student with long, red hair and max athletics who was dating one of the other characters but always ran straight at me at warp speed whenever he spotted me just to act all standoffish like he didn't care. My nonchalant hyperspeed cheating stalker.

 

[MLocke]

It still an engine & takes chunks of coding to do anything special in it outside of a slideshow

When Angelscript or Verse is close to release (built-in to Unreal), I'll probably try making a VN plugin / framework. Then, you would just need to know how to use a UI framework on top of your game. Unreal is not super easy, but I think it's worth getting into for devs.

 

[Essta]

Id love a trainer/breeding game combination. Kinda imagine Free Cities but the player isnt immortal, ages and dies the same the slaves do. And maybe you're royality for a setting, your job being to produce a heir and train em to inherit the kingdom, in addition of your other kingly/queenly duties: leading the nation. One day your character dies because of some event where you failed a check, because of age or because you decided to retire them and then the player character becomes your heir, at the coronation.

But it'd be one huge undertaking cause trainers and good breeding games both have a fuck ton of variables and work needed to make them matter. And then you combine it with a bit of long live the queen gameplay where the same kinda stats are checked in world events and the lethality is high.



Or how about : You play a heroine, but are way too weak, gets defeated and impregnated by whatever defeated you, you retire from adventuring cause preggers, turns out your child is stronger than you cause you got bred by something strong. You're now playing that child. Rinse and repeat to absurdity where you eventually fight and fuck gods. Funny spin on a roguelike?

 

[suprisedcrankyface]

that happens because the strategy of using an "easily modified framework with a free use agreement so simpletons like me could try make our own games" is inherently far more restrictive than making everything from scratch. getting around that forces all kinds of complexities, compromises, unwanted redundancy and bugs. that's why almost all software nowadays is gigantic, incredibly slow and bad.

making it all from scratch would not only run 100x faster but also remove all the systemic clunkyness. but then you need to learn to actually program yourself, and most people are more afraid of that minor challenge than using years to troubleshoot platforms, frameworks and libraries they're using to 'make it easier'.

An easily modded framework with an archive templates to many changes would be very useful. First you saying renpy is that, now you saying just learn to program. Maybe (just maybe) making a game with very well organized and coded templates could help along that 'learn to program' path.

When Angelscript or Verse is close to release (built-in to Unreal), I'll probably try making a VN plugin / framework. Then, you would just need to know how to use a UI framework on top of your game. Unreal is not super easy, but I think it's worth getting into for devs.

Its the final step, I am clunking my way through renpy in my spare time, just would be nice to read some well done code to learn the right way as I learn, rather than whatever I can make work. The problem (for me at least) is I dont like VN, its not a game more a powerpoint presentation with smut, without true interactivity I dont really like a game (inventory, paperdoll avatars, choices/consequences the whole works). Thus its f'ing hard to learn to do, so figured I'd throw my wish in this here wish thread.

 

[tanstaafl]

I can put up with a lot. There are very few kinks that I outright avoid; vore, gore, etc. I'd say there are two primary requirements that if you can achieve it would put you in the top 10 to 20% for me since it's so rare in adult games.

1. Consistently well written. Meaning it doesn't start out strong then get lazier update by update.
2. The MC is consistent. Example: Avoid the well adjusted, good guy MC that just can't catch a break that randomly face fucks his sister/mother/brother's wife while she's sleeping.

 

[DuniX]

Definitely wish Artificial Academy was a real game and not just a loose context for sex animations.

What Gameplay would you like to see in this type of games?
The problem is this projects don't have much of a functioning formula.
The characters are just kind of there, most of the time they don't even do much of anything.
I would like more ideas from other players on what kind of experience they imagine this games should have.

 

[DSSAlex]

A true sandbox game. Start with a point and click adventure game interface where the characters are 3D models. You can create your own character. He can be a young college creeper or a scruffy dirty old man. There would be soft RPG mechanics related to the job sub-systems. It's set in a small neighborhood and as you go deeper into the game you unlock more areas. Each of the girls has her own distinct personality, likes, dislikes and kinks. Probably a ton of behind the scenes stats. You would effect these stats either trough conversations, giving her gifts, inviting her out places, or playing with her.

The dialog system would be similar to a visual novel where you can make choices through the conversation and these effect the ultimate result of the conversation (base relationship stats manipulated, maybe some background stats about preferences slightly effected). And the dialog system would have a ton of generic dialog but with a bunch of small flourishes added procedurally to the text to give it a hint of the girl's character. Each girl would have a bunch of her own specific dialog scenes too,

As you progress your relationship with them you can purchase them clothing and other gifts. Most of the clothing items at the start are fairly normal stuff and the girl will wear the clothes in her inventory based on her preferences, but the things you do can affect their preferences slightly (and as the girl gets more corrupted she will be more willing to wear sexier and sexier clothes). The reason it's important for the characters to be rendered as realtime 3D models is so they can have different clothes swapped in easier.

When you interact with a girl you get a menu with like "talk," "ask," "gift (if you have an item)," "kiss," "fool around with," etcetera.

There would be options to either play adult scenes out as cut scenes where maybe you get a few dialog options about "doggystyle or reverse cowgirl?" or "cum inside or pull out?" Or you could play them out as a sex minigame. When you kiss a girl it would display her shoulders and head and you can click where you like, and different girls would react differently to being kissed different places (and this would also depend on their relationship to you). There would also be a menu on the side to just play it out as a cut scene and have a generic response. Next you would unlock a groping scene. Being 3D would help with this in a few ways too. You could drag say a boob around and it would deform in the directions you're pulling it, or you could click on the buttons of a girl's outfit to unbutton it (maybe she freaks out, maybe she lets you). Ultimately it would all be in service of a sex minigame in the style of the old flash games of decades past. Tease the girl to get her horny, slowly undress her and have your way with her.

In general the NPCs would be guided with something akin to Oblivion's radiant AI system where they have hidden desires. They have a rough schedule of where they want to be and when and this is altered by hidden stats like hunger and fatigue and like desire to pick flowers or whatever.

There would be tons of little sub-systems I guess modeled after like Stardew Valley. There's just like little odd jobs you can do to make money. For some of them you can take a girl along if your relationship is good enough with her and you split the money. Maybe a girl likes to go fishing so you can take her out on a boat and this will increase both your relationship with her as well as get you some money. Maybe a girl wants to be a model so you get a nice camera and take her to a nice location to take pictures and then they're rated and maybe you make some money off them. And then once she's comfortable with you taking photos of her...

 

[lfgals1]

2. The MC is consistent. Example: Avoid the well adjusted, good guy MC that just can't catch a break that randomly face fucks his sister/mother/brother's wife while she's sleeping.

I actively enjoy playing villain protagonsits. If the premise of the game is "play this guy who is obviously a bad person" I am in, sounds fun.

I find the "play as good guy John Everyman and have all these girls fall for your romantic soul" games which involve all sorts of voyeurism, cheating, exploiting vulnerabilities (drunk, blackmail, etc.), and straight up sexual assault incredibly off putting. Like... does the dev not know those things are wrong?

 

[WolfmanBR]

1) NO SANDBOX AT ALL!!! I hate sandbox VNs with every fiber of my being! I'm not interested in AVNs because I want to worry about showering, money, making choices at the right time of day or not so I can access a scene or some shitty reward. There are few VNs that I've played with a sandbox that don't get in the way of the story flow or that simply get really annoying after playing it a hundred times.

2) NO MINI GAMES: Once again, that's not why I got interested in AVNs. Besides, some devs have the tendency to force you to play their stupid mini games by

3) MODELS WITH DIFFERENT BODIES: Being pansexual, I like variety. I'm not like some people who spend 25 years eating the same dish in the same place. I like the possibility of choosing and even "mixing the dishes" if I feel like it (especially if it's a personal. That said, I like VNs with women, men and trans/futas with bodies of different sizes, colors and shapes.

3.1) VARIETY, WITHIN "NORMALITY": A small development of the item above, but totally important for my opinion on the subject. Note that I put the word normality in quotation marks; each to their own fetishes, I have no intention of kink shaming anyone & I know that human sexuality it's far more complex that most people think or want to believe. I only talking about what works for me in an AVN. For me, variety is not synonymous with "anything goes". I like variety, but within the normality possible of human biology (I don't know why, but while these words come out of my fingers, jokes about Captain Kirk's sexual taste come to mind, lol). Chubby, thin, muscular or not, big or small boobs, big asses or not, I love them all; but at the limit of what human biology it's possible.

4) POSSIBLE FREE HAREM: Yes, I'm a Pokemon guy, so I have to fuck them all!! When it comes to this item, personally, reality or suspension of disbelief is out of the question. I want to fuck all the characters! Of course, if there is the possibility of romance and a polygamous relationship built throughout the story, it will be more than welcome, appreciated and praised.

5) NO TENTACLES, FURRIES, THERIANS, NECROPHILIA, SCAT & OTHERS: Again, I have no intention of kink shaming anyone, each to their own, but with these tags, I'm out. My exceptions would be urination (I like golden shower) and rape, IF AND ONLY IF it's the case of a consensual fantasy.

6) NTR: Probably the most controversial, loved and hated tag on this forum. I've played maybe two or three AVNs with NTR; The Adventurous Couple and Perfect Housewife. Some aspects of these particular AVNs were quite satisfying and gave me good cumshots. When it comes to NTR in Visual Novels, I'm the type of person who likes to be shared by my wife with her friends (male, female and/or transgender) rather than sharing. So, I think that when it comes to Visual Novels, the NTR tag doesn't cause me as much repulsion as it does with other people. It all depends on the type of NTR and how it's conducted within the story. In the case of the two AVNs I mentioned, the couple encourages each other to seek sex with other people, with no possibility of separating, at least as far as I've played. Something like an open consensual relationship in which both experiment, but whenever possible they do it together.

7) ONLY 3D ANIMATED ONES: Although I have played some good and fun AVN's without animation or with frame-by-frame animation, this is still my preference, without which my interest is greatly diminished.

Having said all that, I think the AVN's that come to mind that come closest to my ideal game (in no particular order) would be:

- Fetish Locator
- Come Home
- Long Road Home
- Lust Academy
- Misfits (despite his half baked animations)
- Being a Dik
- Family Affair
- My Dorm
- The Shrink R&R
- The Hellcat lounge

Cheers to those read all that!!!

 

[Multy2k]

My ideal game basically...

Anything that does not make me bored...

The story in VN must be interesting enough (Kara no Shoujo, Grisaia series, Kamidori series, etc)
The gameplay must not be too repetitive (Wizards Climber, Daibanchou, Witch Romanesque, etc)
New ideas (at that time) are most welcome (Fairy Fighting, Idol Hands, Elf Sex Farm, LoveEsquire, etc)
Real difficulties (Real life grinds... LoL)

Used to like Illusion games with the touchy-feely thing... But nothing beats the IRL version...

 

[Deleted member 8704544]

Everything is in the title: what would be your ideal game?

What kind of gameplay?
What plays a bigger role in your opinion: the art, the gameplay, the story?
What kind of character do you want to see?

a well made ntr game with both ntr & non-ntr routes. something like mirage's defection, but better

 

[Baitch]

Or how about : You play a heroine, but are way too weak, gets defeated and impregnated by whatever defeated you, you retire from adventuring cause preggers, turns out your child is stronger than you cause you got bred by something strong. You're now playing that child. Rinse and repeat to absurdity where you eventually fight and fuck gods. Funny spin on a roguelike?

have you tried this game? it kinda is what you want except for rougelike xD
(its kinda weird, and translation isnt really good but hey its a preg gacha)
succubus general

 

[daibouken_]

a thick mother. slutty sister and more slutty aunt.

 

[HDiddy]

Simple....

Sims 4 Game, with Honey Select 2 Character Creator, Wildlife Graphics, and VaM Physics.

Sims 4 as a game engine pretty much has everything you need...literally. All these little RenPy amateur situations IMO are not really games. So if we are talking about "ideal" lets actually have a decent freaking game.

Not a huge fan of the "Asian" vibe of Honey Select 2 characters but I do like how they setup the Character Creator engine. In addition being able to share characters through use of cards is simply kind of genius. It is simple and pretty easy to use compared to some of the other stuff out there.

I say wildlife graphics because honestly I am not he biggest fan of the VaM aesthetic. Wildlife, IMO provides a good balance of realistic characters without crossing to much into that uncanny valley area that IMO VaM tends to do a lot.

That said VaM still has the better physics engine. I do think people need to dial it down a bit, but when it is done right it does look really good. So bringing that into a game would be awesome.

 

[Kamishirov]

What would be your ideal game? Right now I suppose I'd like a kind of realistic Japanese high school baseball game with a tie in high school slice-of-life / eroge aspect. Let's go to Koshien!

What kind of gameplay? Japanese high school baseball career mode with a high school life simulator.

What plays a bigger role in your opinion: the art, the gameplay, the story? I'd say the gameplay takes precedence but the artistic style should be on point too for obvious aesthetic reasons, I'd like for the Japanese high school baseball game to be fairly realistic very much like Konami Professional Baseball Spirits. As for the Japanese high school eroge aspect I wouldn't mind if it was in a traditional anime 2D style.



What kind of character do you want to see? You'll be a member of a Japanese high school baseball team, you get to choose your position and then provide input into how your high school career goes taking into account academics/part time work/out of school activities/Etc. The game will consist of sexy Japanese high school girls of various types (delinquent, etc) as well as teachers, PTA, Etc. All sorts of beautiful women that you'd find at a school, maybe one thirsty plump dinner lady with a penchant for young athletic meat or a shrewlike (sexually repressed) female vice principal who you can tempt and tease, just so that not every woman is a cut and paste "beauty". Vive la difference and all that.

 

[Goblyn99]

My ideal game? The ultimate AI customizable wifu (or husbando) sim game. Like VR Kanojo presentation with the body interaction of a VR Hot.

And cranked up to 1000!




Letting you build the hottie's personality by swapping AI boards like that frustrating post-boss part in MGS: Peace Walker


...to make a truly unique AI girl from a mix of various routines. Kinda like FFXII when building the perfect party using Gambits (conditional commands).


And a voxel 3D pixel engine like this one

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for the girls (or guys or fury or futa) and virtual apartment you can set up, that they'd be living in, but in the style of pixel art from the likes of Summer~Life in the Countryside or Winter~Life in the Countryside.

OMG yesss... A cozy game / AI partner / VR porn sim

 

[the-mess]

If we talk about adult game that would be VaM but with desktop controls and more player interactivity like Honey Select or TK17.

 

[Shad0wHawk6]

My ideal game would be some sort of mix between a fantasy setting like Skyrim or Witcher mixed with cyberpunk2077 because I like the setting of cyberpunk and it gives you creative options of what you can do for example stuff like cyber enhancements but I also want the fantasy elements like magic and all the sexy different races like elves.

Gameplay wise i would want it to be an action rpg like cyberpunk but 3rd person focused around quest but these quest would actually built around stuff you would expect from a porn game. I would also like a full felged relationship system like Persona but I would want it to have a haram system were you hve to make the girls happy and its a bit of a challenge to make them agree to be in a haram in the first place.

I would also want a combat system that take the base of ghost of tsushimas combat but also add the spell and potion/oil system of Witcher 3.
And I would take the gun melee weapon combinations idea from RWBY because that shits cool af and I'm shocked no game has stolen that idea yet, because I think it would work perfectly in a cyberpunk/fantasy setting.

Art style wise it would probably be something like the Persona art style or something like cyberpunk2077 but mixed with an anime art style.
Also it would be all voice acted and have a built in script system for sex toys