when did ntr became so popular?

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Can something that represent only 8.15% of the games (1,933 netorare games among 23,728 games in total) really be qualified as popular? Harem games, by examples represent 11.6% of the games (2.764 games) and is therefore way more popular.
I'm not even sure that the rise of netorare AI slop actually talk in favor of a popularity gain, because in the same time there's a decrease of none AI netorare games.
and even from those 8% a lot of them just have that one scene with someone else than mc fucking a LI with no actual intention to use NTR dynamic. like no mercy starting with the mom blowing someone only to set up the blackmailing.
Those numbers are misleading as they only show a total over several years of game development, I think ever since Corona games especially with the more extreme fetishes like NTR picked up, probably as many people used the internet and electronics to compensate their desires they used to get else where which was now blocked to them.
When I first came to this Forum there was a consistent Fetish in games which was incest... it's probably still the most used fetish as new developers took this fact as indicator for a formula of guaranteed success, something similiar is likely happening with more specialised and contradicting fetishes about now... yet it's also true that ever since Corona especially old games with the NTR fetish got added to the site, so a fan base found their way here and shared games of the past, same as people previously did with games with the incest fetish.
 

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Those numbers are misleading as they only show a total over several years of game development, I think ever since Corona games especially with the more extreme fetishes like NTR picked up, probably as many people used the internet and electronics to compensate their desires they used to get else where which was now blocked to them.
When I first came to this Forum there was a consistent Fetish in games which was incest... it's probably still the most used fetish as new developers took this fact as indicator for a formula of guaranteed success, something similiar is likely happening with more specialised and contradicting fetishes about now...
That's not accurate. People have been thinking they see an increase, thinking there are too many and complaining about it long before then.

2017
https://f95zone.to/threads/why-do-people-like-ntr.3889/

2018
https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-what-do-you-think.17747/
" Well i think if you look how many ntr games and else is bubbling up in the Internet and this Forum "

2019
https://f95zone.to/threads/really-ntr-is-the-new-trend-between-porn-games-adicts.30977/
"Or it's just a very persistent group of hardcore fans pushing for it?
Something like the Alt-Right of porn games? "

2019
https://f95zone.to/threads/is-ntr-a-virus-japan-failed-to-cure-or-contain.30671/
" This infection has spread to many games here on F95zone "

2020 (around the time of the first lockdowns - the first lock down was in wuhan china jan 23 2020)
https://f95zone.to/threads/growing-popularity-for-optional-ntr-games.60094/
" Now a days most of the famous games who were introduced as a non-ntr games, slowly introducing NTR content into the games. Or Vice-versa too (love route or vanilla are added later). I don't want to mention names, you can guess because they are many. "

Anytime there is something someone doesn't like, even 8% of it is too much. Also it seems the more they hate it the more they fixate on it, you could have 20 vanilla games and 2 NTR games per page and there will be a thread about the flood of NTR.

yet it's also true that ever since Corona especially old games with the NTR fetish got added to the site, so a fan base found their way here and shared games of the past, same as people previously did with games with the incest fetish.
Also not accurate,

2017
https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-netorare-cuckold-resources-discussion-development.2711/

2018
https://f95zone.to/threads/hi-fellow-ntr.10982/

2018
https://f95zone.to/threads/i-need-ntr.14162/

2019
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-glorious-ntr-cheating-thread-you-bet-your-ass-its-nsfw-_.27809/

2019
https://f95zone.to/threads/general-i-love-ntr-thread.23910/

etc.

As you can see there was already a substantial fanbase long before.
 
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Those numbers are misleading as they only show a total over several years of game development,
Games that had their thread created or updated:
During the 365 last days: Netorare 753 Harem 1,322 (175.5%)
During the 180 last days: Netorare 525 Harem 953 (181.5%)
During the last 90 days: Netorare 386 Harem 657 (170.2%)

The ratio stay relatively stable...
 

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I do think NTR is the final coomer stage. Also it takes certain desensitivization. Initially when you start playing games, porn or otherwise, you get very immersed in them. But with time as you play more and more games you become bored with the same tricks, cliches, plot devices etc. So you no longer immerse yourself into it and view it just as a product, you are uninvolved and hard to impress. Here at this stage people can play basically any degenerate shit, because they can no longer immerse themselves in what's happening in the story, they just need it to be harder and harder and more degenerate to feel any kind of excitement from it.
Yes...because those that read Lady Chatterley's Lover were brain addled desensitized coomer brains from all that pornography back then right?

Here's a thought I'll toss to people, just throw it around your heads a little, what if the person that doesn't immerse and realises it's an external story to oneself is in fact, in reverse of your statement, the one that is not degenerated? What if the person that immerses is so weak and lacking in self esteem that they must find solace and identification with the attributes and qualities of a fictional person? What if their rational and intellectual faculties are so lacking that they cannot distinguish between themselves and the person they play as? And in so degenerate a mind, they cannot even muster the small modicum of self control but MUST, i.e. they will not, and indeed CANNOT, leave such alone but must 'attack' or 'comment' or fail to understand any concept that there are people that can split the two apart and can enjoy a story or other NTR media simply for the events that happen to the characters without identifying as any?

Do we have any evidence for the theory? Why the very numerous threads that practically scream 'REEEEEEEEE!!!!' or the various people that run off from it in fictional media, as if the very thing doesn't happen in reality either (cognitive dissonance is a rather amusing thing is it not?), now you might feel I'm attacking or getting personal but actually i'm answering your comment generally and not specifically applying it to you, more so anyone reading, especially those reading who instantly feel their hackles rise, stop there, ask yourself why, why that is if you are the reader that right now feel impugned and now have an overwhelming urge to reply, where does that feeling come from? Why? Was it me and what I said? Other have read the same post and have said nothing or felt not as you do, is it my words or the concept of NTR or something more internal to yourself?

It seems to me much like those who have to beat up nerds, geeks, intellectuals at school, not because they don't understand what they are doing is hurtful and wrong, but because it makes them feel like they are still in control, need control, against those who possess a quality that not only do they not understand, but frightens their worldview to such an extent they are capable of little else but to lash out. It's a tale as old as time that those that understand not a thing, can feel an uncontrollable need to attack and vindicate themselves against a perceived enemy in their mind when encountering it, yet it's not just the lack of understanding, but I feel personally it's that of a lack of emotional and mental development, for I presuppose there are people that, like myself, will never understand Scat, or Urine, or Farts, yet...I feel no compulsion to say anything but to leave them be, I have found others that do not like NTR, but they seem to possess a quality or attribute others don't because they are also content to leave such alone.

It would seem to me then upon the analysis of what I've encountered here over the years, that even in those that do not like NTR, one will happily leave it alone and get on with their vision and pursuit, the other seems to suffer shackles upon their hands and minds, seemingly not just unwilling to rationalise and develop emotional fortitude, but in contradistinction, are not just unwilling but unable to.

I've found such even outside of the site too, those who can rationally debate, not take personally, and distinguish themselves by externalizing from their internal the various stimuli they encounter, and those of whom simply act like emotional babies or as savage animal and scream, shout, throw tantrums, insults, resort very quickly to violence. In short, I don't think the issue is with the object but the subject, i.e the issue isn't with NTR or anything else, but the type of person that encounters it.

This is just a supposition, don't take my words as golden, investigate and see if they resonate with you (the wider audience reading this).
 

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When monogamy was invented
There is a book on my bookshelf called 'Sex At Dawn' that argues that monogamy is not the natural state for human beings and that we are more suited to our close cousin, the Bonobo, in terms of how we approach sexuality and relationships, if nothing it's an interesting read, it presents a case study of a Chinese tribe that practice sharing among themselves, and the attempts of the Chinese Government to impose their morals on them.
 

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Interaction bait by a numpty. Nothing of importance.
Err no, an actual rebuttal and opinion, don't dismiss and try to override me as a person, you'll find fewer friends if you do, although...that seems to happen a lot lately with yourself right?
 

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Err no, an actual rebuttal and opinion, don't dismiss and try to override me as a person, you'll find fewer friends if you do, although...that seems to happen a lot lately with yourself right?
Yeah, now that I'm reading it you weren't actually memeing this time. Carry on, sir.
 
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How can you know if it's drivel if you don't even read it?

Point proven about typology I guess.
I read the first 3 lines of it.


Interaction bait by a numpty. Nothing of importance.

Edit: Oh, you might mean Icarus... actually, my still point stands. (Get baited, sun boy) :ROFLMAO:
Bait is supposed to be short. If one writes a long butthurt response - it's them who bit. But yeah I kinda concluded that it doesn't even worth reading
 

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I read the first 3 lines of it.



Bait is supposed to be short. If one writes a long butthurt response - it's them who bit. But yeah I kinda concluded that it doesn't even worth reading
You can't reach that as a valid conclusion (that it isn't worth reading AND that I am supposedly butthurt) if you read only 3 lines. You are proving my point about types of people that was the point of the post.
 
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Or jack off, I am a dev although....that's given me a thought I didn't want, story...yeah my fans like my stuff for the story, now I feel good again.
Both of us have made hundreds of thousands of people orgasm. You can't escape reality. :devilish: