when did ntr became so popular?

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Oh come on, so that was your point "erm erm leave ntr enjoyers alone erm". Lol for a comedian this is a rather boring take. No, Burger King is shit, I hate it and can't understand why people eat there. Same for NTR - it's extremely popular, it's not niche as scat or vore - these are minuscular compared to how many NTR games there are so certainly it's peculiar for others how these people manage to enjoy it. And lol you tried to make argument that it's not about self-inserting, but about "enjoying the story" - just LMAO, what story you enjoy there? A girl got blackmailed/raped/hypnotized by a guy with a big dick. Having sex with him she became addicted to it and can't enjoy sex with her boyfriend anymore, so she leaves him. I just described 90% of "stories" in NTR novels. Obviously people goon to it, there's rarely anything realistic or deep about NTR stories - logic there is even less consistent than the notorious porn logic. Devs have to make the characters act totally illogically and irrationally to make NTR happen and continue.
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Oh come on, so that was your point "erm erm leave ntr enjoyers alone erm"
point isn't about the NTR enjoyers, it's about the person viewing or engaging with them, subject and object are two different things.

No, Burger King is shit, I hate it and can't understand why people eat there. Same for NTR
Ah so like my argument there ARE people that are incapable of understanding certain concepts (not just limited to NTR). Then you have the choice to be type 1 person or type 2, simple as.

And lol you tried to make argument that it's not about self-inserting, but about "enjoying the story" - just LMAO, what story you enjoy there? A girl got blackmailed/raped/hypnotized by a guy with a big dick. Having sex with him she became addicted to it and can't enjoy sex with her boyfriend anymore, so she leaves him. I just described 90% of "stories" in NTR novels. Obviously people goon to it, there's rarely anything realistic or deep about NTR stories - logic there is even less consistent than the notorious porn logic. Devs have to make the characters act totally illogically and irrationally to make NTR happen and continue.
Why was Lady Chatterley's Lover so popular and read by so many if the story in NTR is so bad?

It sold 3 million copies within 3 months of its publication (200,000 alone in its first day!). It did not feature blackmail, rape or hypnosis to my recollection. It is now a classic of literature.

there's rarely anything realistic or deep about NTR stories - logic there is even less consistent than the notorious porn logic. Devs have to make the characters act totally illogically and irrationally to make NTR happen and continue.
If NTR is unrealistic and the characters do not act logically and rationally as in real life, then why is it that the percentage of parental discrepancy can fluctuate so wildly in the studies?(1). From the lowest of 0.8 to the highest of 53? That would yield some interesting averages.

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Also note that this site only allows english translated games, the sites linked in the lists allowed non translated games too. So even taking your bias into account the popularity of the genre is not accurately represented by the number of games available on F95, then or now.

Which brings us back to "ever since corona" being inaccurate.
I did a post about that in the summer but I'll repeat myself - if you go to DLsite the tags are sorted by popularity among users. And the most popular one is NTR (translated as 'cuckold' by google page translator)
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Sure it's stable but the ratio is certainly much higher than 8% now isn't it?
Not really "much higher", and harem games still win:

Total games during the last 365 days: 7248
Netorare - 753 (10%)
Harem - 1322 (18%)
Total games during the last 180 days: 4699
Netorare - 525 (11%)
Harem - 953 (20%)

For memory, overall, there's 8% of Netorare games, against 11% of harem games. So, yes, Netorare games have seen a small gain of interest, but the proportion of harem games have almost doubled.
 

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just :sleep: where energy, where funny? muh "strawman", how about you using w.r.t. that book you keep bringing up. Also a book... I thought we are talking about games. You know games, where players make decisions, which affect the story. This decision making give players a sense of responsibility over what is happening - it is meant to engage, immerse much more than an ordinary book can. Yes, having to make decisions on behalf of the character makes you associate with them much more.

then why is it that the percentage of parental discrepancy can fluctuate so wildly in the studies?(1). From the lowest of 0.8 to the highest of 53? That would yield some interesting averages.
um, you do understand how far this is from proving that characters in NTR don't behave unrealistically?
 

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just :sleep: where energy, where funny? muh "strawman", how about you using w.r.t. that book you keep bringing up. Also a book... I thought we are talking about games. You know games, where players make decisions, which affect the story. This decision making give players a sense of responsibility over what is happening - it is meant to engage, immerse much more than an ordinary book can. Yes, having to make decisions on behalf of the character makes you associate with them much more.


um, you do understand how far this is from proving that characters in NTR don't behave unrealistically?
Sigh...okay I'll descend...

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I saw it before so...

Anyway, I don't think it's unhealthy curiosity given how popular the genre is. If it was small like scat or vore - one would silently think 'well those are just weirdos'. But with NTR it's almost mainstream. I don't know if it is rising in popularity or not, but it is already very popular. Enough to be interested in that as an psychological phenomenon