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RNasc4444

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Certainly not for an "average" game, and I said it's not that great for a WiAB quality game. I mean, an average game rated 3 or lower usually makes me want to puke.

But it's complicated, I would say that it's not a uniform but a logarithmic distribution. That is, about 500 games with a rating higher than 4 are what I would call above average and 5000 games with a rating from 3 to 4.5 are what I would call average. Well, the rest of the 20000+, just tell me yourself what is it. :KEK:

So I'm talking about the "above average" category, where WiAB isn't even in the top 300 because there's not a single game rated 4.2 or lower. It's on page 15, my settings are 30 items per page, so it's somewhere around 450th in the weighted rankings. SG is right there with WiAB, by the way. Can you really name 300+ AVN better than SG? I can't. So yeah, WiAB and SG are far from "overwhelmingly positive" to me.
Ok fair. I guess within the shitshow that is F95's rating system it's not good. If you take that score at face value though, it's fantastic. But yeah I get your point. There is a reason why I largely don't engage with or pay any attention the the score and reviews of any given game. The "latest updates" page is how I find games and opening their threads is how I find out if I might give them a chance. I only ever use the filters to check for older completed games.

Hey! It's against the topic rules to give ideas to Ocean
Face it Doc, WiAB will always be the ugly stepchild in Ocean's eyes :LOL:
 

TheDuke9999

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Ok fair. I guess within the shitshow that is F95's rating system it's not good. If you take that score at face value though, it's fantastic. But yeah I get your point. There is a reason why I largely don't engage with or pay any attention the the score and reviews of any given game. The "latest updates" page is how I find games and opening their threads is how I find out if I might give them a chance. I only ever use the filters to check for older completed games.


Face it Doc, WiAB will always be the ugly stepchild in Ocean's eyes :LOL:
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NewTricks

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I guess that I continue to follow this game because I was a fan of the first one before the remake. Not the first half of that game, mind you, but around the time of the camping trip the game improved immensely. Probably the most improvement I ever saw in a VN. It improved in art, story, and just mood in general. I've always kind of held out hope that whatever magic was captured in a bottle by the time of Katie's confession would transfer to this new version of the game. I still think it has that potential. Whether or not we ever get to see that potential realized remains to be seen.
 

TheDuke9999

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Unfortunately WiAB was born like this, I don't remember if here or in an archive of the Patreon page, Ocean said that he started WiAb to practice before creating the game he wanted to make.

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for me i like WIAB more because the plot is there and it is being followed through the VN.. summers gone is awesome to but the plot has been lost and now its nika and a bunch hot chicks that wanna bang him and milf's to including your precious katie .. does anyone even care about summer anymore lol the new title should be Nika's hoasis .. first come first serve if his junk ever starts working again..
 
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TheDuke9999

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100% this.

People bitching and whining over whether an AVN has an update or not (and when) is pathetic and sad beyond the extreme. Says a great deal about those who do.
i have to disagree.. there alot of people that spent hundreds if not thousands because they are heavily invested in ocean's vision and enjoy it very much.. who are we to say what is important someone's life or wants an needs.. or is this a communist thread that if we dont see it your way its the highway?
 

Dee6902

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i have to disagree.. there alot of people that spent hundreds if not thousands because they are heavily invested in ocean's vision and enjoy it very much.. who are we to say what is important someone's life or wants an needs.. or is this a communist thread that if we dont see it your way its the highway?
For must of us here who haven't spent a dime supporting we have no reason to complain. But those actually supporting the project definitely should raise concerns, but they should be doing that on Patreon and SS where Ocean will see not here. Im here cause I'm not paying and I like the discussion and actual theories.
 

Dr.TSoni

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For must of us here who haven't spent a dime supporting we have no reason to complain. But those actually supporting the project definitely should raise concerns, but they should be doing that on Patreon and SS where Ocean will see not here. Im here cause I'm not paying and I like the discussion and actual theories.
Even so I don't know what difference it would make to Ocean, SG is clearly his primary interest as well as source of income.
 

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So, what do you think guys will happen in the next update when? :Kappa: If the plot structure remains more or less the same as the old WiAB, we can expect some fun with Scarlett, right? And we'll meet a chubby girl, I can't remember her name? Is it too early for a trip to the lake? Although that one of the last previews with the weird shit in the forest is a little disturbing. :WutFace:
 

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So, what do you think guys will happen in the next update when? :Kappa: If the plot structure remains more or less the same as the old WiAB, we can expect some fun with Scarlett, right? And we'll meet a chubby girl, I can't remember her name? Is it too early for a trip to the lake? Although that one of the last previews with the weird shit in the forest is a little disturbing. :WutFace:
Well chapter 3 ended at Leia's house, I guess chapter 4 will pick up from that point. I really don't know what to expect and have no real expectations.
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So, what do you think guys will happen in the next update when? :Kappa: If the plot structure remains more or less the same as the old WiAB, we can expect some fun with Scarlett, right? And we'll meet a chubby girl, I can't remember her name? Is it too early for a trip to the lake? Although that one of the last previews with the weird shit in the forest is a little disturbing. :WutFace:
I suspect Leia is going to crush William's head between her thighs until he reveals why he went to prison.

Maybe move into the apartment with Miru, returning to the city to collect their belongings and say bye for now to Daphne.
 
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Ray_D

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I suspect Leia is going to crush William's head between her thighs until he reveals why he went to prison.
In the old version William was jailed for a false accusation of rape. Now it remains to be seen if ocean will use the same reason or decide to use another one.
 

byaaahh

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In the old version William was jailed for a false accusation of rape. Now it remains to be seen if ocean will use the same reason or decide to use another one.
I never played the old version, William went to prison before returning to Wollust in that too? I know there is a prison segment coming in future, but I thought that might be linked to the gang/drugs.

I'm not expecting anything from the old version being transferred over. I think of it like Disney and the Star Wars EU, Ocean will pick, choose and alter things to fit what he needs to tell the new story.
 

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I never played the old version, William went to prison before returning to Wollust in that too? I know there is a prison segment coming in future, but I thought that might be linked to the gang/drugs.
Yes, although the old version is weird about the period where willian goes to prison. And if you're wondering, no, William didn't drop the soap but depending on your decisions his stay could be better or worse.
I'm not expecting anything from the old version being transferred over. I think of it like Disney and the Star Wars EU, Ocean will pick, choose and alter things to fit what he needs to tell the new story.
Ocean will probably change it, the old version of William was traumatized by being beaten all the years he was in prison. On the other hand, the new version of William seems not to have suffered so much and instead became physically tougher in prison.
 
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RNasc4444

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So, what do you think guys will happen in the next update when? :Kappa: If the plot structure remains more or less the same as the old WiAB, we can expect some fun with Scarlett, right? And we'll meet a chubby girl, I can't remember her name? Is it too early for a trip to the lake? Although that one of the last previews with the weird shit in the forest is a little disturbing. :WutFace:
No clue. But I wouldn't mind if Ocean did away with most of the old stuff. I only played old WiAB once and barely remember anything.

What I'd like to see is easy. First say goodbye to Miru. Then roll the mute leviathan down a hill to see how long it takes her to come back up. Maybe she'll be talking again by the end of that adventure. After that, tie Dana to the end of a tower crane and use her as a wrecking ball to tear down Leia's club because fuck her(Leia, not Dana)! Then go back and pay a visit to Daphne and make sweet love to her (sorry Miru). Return to Wollust and try to make amends with Mon. And finally go to the gym and hang out with Gina until Miru comes back. Oh and try to sort out the whole Kat professor issue with roommate Katie.

That would be a wonderful update. I'm excited to see how Ocean tackles the new relationships. Maybe William can get a job and start paying the landlord and landlady what he owes. He's just late what? 15 years of due rent? Plus amenities and food?

As a final note, can we start adding social services to the Oceanverse!?!? 'Cause these people seem to just be grabbing orphans off the street and raising them without a care in the world.
 
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4.20 star(s) 199 Votes