VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

What surprises me the most, though, is how overwhelmingly positive the comments are here.

Post-nut clarity. But we are nice people. Occasionally though.

(By the way, after a year without updates, doesn’t the game normally get the "On Hold" tag?)

The dev gives us bi-weekly updates on the progress. So the tags are kept at bay. He's also workin on 2 games at the same time so it's reasonable to take more time.

Is there a particular reason behind the strong support you all have for this game?

Quality. Not many games come close to the level of detail the renders have and the cinematic approach he has to his scenes is very attractive. The characters feel organic and interesting. The plot has a lot of mysteries to unfold so the thrill factor is high. Also we're in too deep at this point so might as well hang on for the whole ride.jk.

In other games, after months of waiting, people usually start worrying about the game being abandoned

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Yeah...I got nothing! Honestly this game is just homework for me because I play the dev's other game.

I guess it's got a couple of planet sized women in it...if you're into people who could have their own gravitational field. Also possible NTR in the future. I don't know...

 

[RNasc4444]

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Fair, fair... But you also have Katie in SG. And will probably have Miru too which lowers the value of WiAB a bit

Dare I say we made friends along the way?

Ok Bob let's not get too excited, yeah?

The average weighted rating is 4.2, which is very low for a game of WiAB's quality.

Wait what? If the max score is 5 how is 4.2 low for ANY game? Let's not forget 2.5 is "average". Which makes 3 "above average" and 3.5 or 4 "good". I think anything between 4.0 and 4.5 is accurate for WiAB which makes it a "very good", borderline "great" game.

Am I off base on the 5 star ranking?

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

Wait what? If the max score is 5 how is 4.2 low for ANY game? Let's not forget 2.5 is "average". Which makes 3 "above average" and 3.5 or 4 "good". I think anything between 4.0 and 4.5 is accurate for WiAB which makes it a "very good", borderline "great" game.

Am I off base on the 5 star ranking?

4.2 isnt low in the least. But there's a ton of games that are above 4.2 which are way bad compared to this game. But then again, f95's rating system is absolute dogshit. Hell I'd have never found SG and Wiab if i just filtered by rating.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Fair, fair... But you also have Katie in SG. And will probably have Miru too which lowers the value of WiAB a bit


Ok Bob let's not get too excited, yeah?


Wait what? If the max score is 5 how is 4.2 low for ANY game? Let's not forget 2.5 is "average". Which makes 3 "above average" and 3.5 or 4 "good". I think anything between 4.0 and 4.5 is accurate for WiAB which makes it a "very good", borderline "great" game.

Am I off base on the 5 star ranking?

Sorry, not sorry... it was too good an opportunity

 

[yossa999]

Wait what? If the max score is 5 how is 4.2 low for ANY game? Let's not forget 2.5 is "average". Which makes 3 "above average" and 3.5 or 4 "good". I think anything between 4.0 and 4.5 is accurate for WiAB which makes it a "very good", borderline "great" game.

Am I off base on the 5 star ranking?

Certainly not for an "average" game, and I said it's not that great for a WiAB quality game. I mean, an average game rated 3 or lower usually makes me want to puke.

But it's complicated, I would say that it's not a uniform but a logarithmic distribution. That is, about 500 games with a rating higher than 4 are what I would call above average and 5000 games with a rating from 3 to 4.5 are what I would call average. Well, the rest of the 20000+, just tell me yourself what is it.

So I'm talking about the "above average" category, where WiAB isn't even in the top 300 because there's not a single game rated 4.2 or lower. It's on page 15, my settings are 30 items per page, so it's somewhere around 450th in the weighted rankings. SG is right there with WiAB, by the way. Can you really name 300+ AVN better than SG? I can't. So yeah, WiAB and SG are far from "overwhelmingly positive" to me.

 

[TheDuke9999]

WIAB and SG are at the top of VN's since i have been playing VN's. its a shame they only update once every 5 years but it is always amazing when they come out . by far

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Fair, fair... But you also have Katie in SG. And will probably have Miru too which lowers the value of WiAB a bit

Hey! It's against the topic rules to give ideas to Ocean

 

[alanrock]

Is there a particular reason behind the strong support you all have for this game?

 

[Maccabbee]

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Also the depth of the writing, great art, hot girls, and above all, Miru.

 

[RNasc4444]

Certainly not for an "average" game, and I said it's not that great for a WiAB quality game. I mean, an average game rated 3 or lower usually makes me want to puke.

But it's complicated, I would say that it's not a uniform but a logarithmic distribution. That is, about 500 games with a rating higher than 4 are what I would call above average and 5000 games with a rating from 3 to 4.5 are what I would call average. Well, the rest of the 20000+, just tell me yourself what is it.

So I'm talking about the "above average" category, where WiAB isn't even in the top 300 because there's not a single game rated 4.2 or lower. It's on page 15, my settings are 30 items per page, so it's somewhere around 450th in the weighted rankings. SG is right there with WiAB, by the way. Can you really name 300+ AVN better than SG? I can't. So yeah, WiAB and SG are far from "overwhelmingly positive" to me.

Ok fair. I guess within the shitshow that is F95's rating system it's not good. If you take that score at face value though, it's fantastic. But yeah I get your point. There is a reason why I largely don't engage with or pay any attention the the score and reviews of any given game. The "latest updates" page is how I find games and opening their threads is how I find out if I might give them a chance. I only ever use the filters to check for older completed games.

Hey! It's against the topic rules to give ideas to Ocean

Face it Doc, WiAB will always be the ugly stepchild in Ocean's eyes

 

[TheDuke9999]

Ok fair. I guess within the shitshow that is F95's rating system it's not good. If you take that score at face value though, it's fantastic. But yeah I get your point. There is a reason why I largely don't engage with or pay any attention the the score and reviews of any given game. The "latest updates" page is how I find games and opening their threads is how I find out if I might give them a chance. I only ever use the filters to check for older completed games.


Face it Doc, WiAB will always be the ugly stepchild in Ocean's eyes

 

[NewTricks]

I guess that I continue to follow this game because I was a fan of the first one before the remake. Not the first half of that game, mind you, but around the time of the camping trip the game improved immensely. Probably the most improvement I ever saw in a VN. It improved in art, story, and just mood in general. I've always kind of held out hope that whatever magic was captured in a bottle by the time of Katie's confession would transfer to this new version of the game. I still think it has that potential. Whether or not we ever get to see that potential realized remains to be seen.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Face it Doc, WiAB will always be the ugly stepchild in Ocean's eyes

Unfortunately WiAB was born like this, I don't remember if here or in an archive of the Patreon page, Ocean said that he started WiAb to practice before creating the game he wanted to make.

That said:

 

[Eleanorduval]

Unfortunately WiAB was born like this, I don't remember if here or in an archive of the Patreon page, Ocean said that he started WiAb to practice before creating the game he wanted to make.

That said:
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long time since last update.

 

[TheDuke9999]

Unfortunately WiAB was born like this, I don't remember if here or in an archive of the Patreon page, Ocean said that he started WiAb to practice before creating the game he wanted to make.

That said:
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for me i like WIAB more because the plot is there and it is being followed through the VN.. summers gone is awesome to but the plot has been lost and now its nika and a bunch hot chicks that wanna bang him and milf's to including your precious katie .. does anyone even care about summer anymore lol the new title should be Nika's hoasis .. first come first serve if his junk ever starts working again..

 

[Maviarab]

There are much more important things in my life every day than being unhappy over an AVN's status.

100% this.

People bitching and whining over whether an AVN has an update or not (and when) is pathetic and sad beyond the extreme. Says a great deal about those who do.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

For must of us here who haven't spent a dime supporting we have no reason to complain. But those actually supporting the project definitely should raise concerns, but they should be doing that on Patreon and SS where Ocean will see not here. Im here cause I'm not paying and I like the discussion and actual theories.

Even so I don't know what difference it would make to Ocean, SG is clearly his primary interest as well as source of income.

 

[Miranha157]

This week's dev summary:

Happy Easter, I'm posting some wallpapers of some bunny girls, some excuse about the weekend being exhausting/visiting family. 5k renders and 20 cinematics to go, no WiAB date yet.

 

[X2JZcf]

posting some wallpapers of some bunny girls

perfect