VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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BobTheDuck

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Dr.TSoni said:
It's hardly the same thing as before; it was the awareness that a relative was up to something, with some cases (Dylan & Scarlet) of trying to keep an eye out so that that relative doesn't get killed. Now it's family business.


I don't know how transparent it is, many things we know as a player William is not aware of.
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Look, I get that it has changed, that is not the point. You literally said Leia was the only criminal. Willi admittd to doing things as a juvenile that weren't legal. Joe's whole backstory is the foundation of pretty much everything illegal that Leia's doing, and it went on for years with it paying for Joe and Scarlet's household. THere is no way his wife and kids didn't question the money or the guns (that all the kids knew about). Miru had an illegal background. Gina want to do illegal things because the law isn't helping her.

All of this and more existed befor Ch4. Yes, Ch4 retconned it, just like Ch1-3 took what OCean wanted of the OG 1-6 - but that doesn't mean it was a bunch of sunshine before. Crime has always been a significant part of the story, and now it's expanded. Leia wasn't the only one with criminal tendencies, Scarlet didn't just wake up to Joe's sidehustle nightclub, Willi's suspicions mean he's thought of Scarlet being complicit longer than he's been back.

It's also the difference between a whodunnit and an action flick. Before it was undercurrents and hidden motives "do you trust Dylan?", now it's pretty much all out in the open.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
Gina want to do illegal things because the law isn't helping her.
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We're in dangerous legal territory here, if you want to use this to paint Gina as a criminal. XD
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Scarlet didn't just wake up to Joe's sidehustle nightclub, Willi's suspicions mean he's thought of Scarlet being complicit longer than he's been back.
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About Scarlet the only thing I can say is that she seemed rather hypocritical as a character
 
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Dr.TSoni said:
We're in dangerous legal territory here, if you want to use this to paint Gina as a criminal. XD

About Scarlet the only thing I can say is that she seemed rather hypocritical as a character
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I never said that Gina was criminal, but that she want to look at options that aren't legal to deal with Krayt, because it's a Wollust thing. It's a place where the police watch a woman beat up a man in the car park then blame the man. They couldn't solve crime if it was their job. :HideThePain:

I'll leave it here because there's no point, we're both doubling down. These discussions also aren't pictures of Katie.

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Sorry for intruding but Gina is right about the gang, I'll even help as much as I can if the game allows me to, I'll gladly get my hands dirty.
FOR HER...
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Edit: Don't look at the ass, Dammit!!! I had no other pictures :BootyTime:
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shenlao said:
Well almost all characters are criminal tho. Even our lovely Miru is killer by nature.
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I know, that was my point. It has no barring on my like or dislike of her character. It's actually completely irrelevant in general to someone like me. Unless she fucks around and messes with one of my LIs, I could care less about the people she's fucking over out there. That's their problem. Yes, I'm selfish like that.

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The only thing I don't agree with is that Monica forgave him.
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That's fine. My reasons mostly come from her behavior and how she shifts as the story progressed. Even in their first interaction, her mask slipped a bit when she showed concern about what happened to him. Only to pull it back up immediately when she realized what she was doing. She then later tries to treat him coldly and ignore his comments. This is up until the bar where she flat out tells him she's not interested in talking to him. Only to actually dial it back when he pointed out that if what happened is irrelevant and in the past, she should forgive him already. And guess what Monica does next? She starts engaging in a conversation with him. Not even getting offended when he joked about sleeping with her again. Something that supposedly traumatized her a bit.

Now, I will acknowledge that the alcohol could've attributed to some of the things in the bar. Since she was drinking. But chances are, she forgave him after that moment. That also doesn't make them friends or anything, by the way. I'm sure we'll have to work on that going forward. Luckily, or unluckily depending on the pov, we're her new neighbor. I would imagine that we'll see her ease up a lot going forward. Sucks for Benny boy though. He's the real unlucky one here for curving her for too long in bed (you learn this about Mon in the theater, if you ignore Miru) and doing again in this Ch 4. Actually wait a minute, wasn't it mentioned he had a crush on Dana in the past? Nah, I take back everything. It sucks to suck Benny boy.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
Look, I get that it has changed, that is not the point. You literally said Leia was the only criminal. Willi admittd to doing things as a juvenile that weren't legal. Joe's whole backstory is the foundation of pretty much everything illegal that Leia's doing, and it went on for years with it paying for Joe and Scarlet's household. THere is no way his wife and kids didn't question the money or the guns (that all the kids knew about). Miru had an illegal background. Gina want to do illegal things because the law isn't helping her.

All of this and more existed befor Ch4. Yes, Ch4 retconned it, just like Ch1-3 took what OCean wanted of the OG 1-6 - but that doesn't mean it was a bunch of sunshine before. Crime has always been a significant part of the story, and now it's expanded. Leia wasn't the only one with criminal tendencies, Scarlet didn't just wake up to Joe's sidehustle nightclub, Willi's suspicions mean he's thought of Scarlet being complicit longer than he's been back.

It's also the difference between a whodunnit and an action flick. Before it was undercurrents and hidden motives "do you trust Dylan?", now it's pretty much all out in the open.
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And we haven't even met the cultists yet. Although, who knows, maybe the new WiAB is just Giuseppes. So who is Donna, and who does she work for?
 
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WiAB Chapter 5 - Pre-Log #4 + CMSM poll
Hello,

Reminder:
WiAB goes back into production as soon as the Summer's Gone update is out/rendering has finished.

Check today's Summer's Gone log to see where we stand.

I've managed to locate 4 out of the 6 Dana images that were supposed to be unlockable in WiAB Chapter 4.

Here they are:
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Extra images are obviously not canon.

With the next log I'll publish another "Cute Mode - Slut Mode"

Instead of multiple images for the same girl, I'll make a collab of four WiAB girls. 2 images each. The four girls with the most votes get into the first set.

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c.mork said:
WiAB Chapter 5 - Pre-Log #4 + CMSM poll
Hello,

Reminder:
WiAB goes back into production as soon as the Summer's Gone update is out/rendering has finished.

Check today's Summer's Gone log to see where we stand.

I've managed to locate 4 out of the 6 Dana images that were supposed to be unlockable in WiAB Chapter 4.

Here they are:
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View attachment 5271419
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Extra images are obviously not canon.

With the next log I'll publish another "Cute Mode - Slut Mode"

Instead of multiple images for the same girl, I'll make a collab of four WiAB girls. 2 images each. The four girls with the most votes get into the first set.

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Thank you again for bringing the news, greatly appreciated!
 
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Also interesting is what a shelf warmer Gina is.

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Well, on the other side, it's not surprising. Gina was for me never more as a background character. And I will never talk about Helen, That char was ruined with the rework
 
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