VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Dr.TSoni]

I do not think this is true, for the most part the changes Ocean has made so far are not unreasonable ones. WiaB remake was for the better, the OG although not without a charme was all over the place with some completly nonsensical scenes.

The changes to SG also are pretty reasonable, he made an investment in the musics and to not use it is throw money away, to edit some crotch out and the spicer scenes to not loose money is understandable in my view. It also helps that it make the game more accessible.

The difference between this changes is that one was born of a creative view the other of pragmatism. One enrichs the story, the other dilutes it. I can't honestly say that Nami paths hits the same way as it did before, is not worse but it also can't be the same.

How the new change affects WiaB is dependent on what motivated this change, the thing is that in this case either way is problematic. If Ocean truly had a change of heart, he loses credibility if it is out of pragmatism, is not the same as cut some crotch in a few renders and will affect the whole game. It can work, but as was said the script will not heal it self and futher change will have to be made to acomodate this one.

And I fully agree about Miru, she was all over the place.
If we go and see the new "introduction" to Ayua, when Nika randomly returns after arguing with Bella, and Ayua decides to attack Nika in his room. For me Ocean thought "let's show how cool Aya is" but at the same time it makes her seem unstable.

Allow me to bask for a little while in the warmth of sweet vindication... I fought for so long. Published unpopular opinions for what felt like ages...

I'm at peace now...eyes have been opened

Honestly, I've followed two topics in the last year and I've often found myself in agreement with you, but Ocean's believers scare me a little XD

 

[Maviarab]

but Ocean's believers scare me a little XD

It's....the helmet, isn't it?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

It's....the helmet, isn't it?

 

[Tremonia]

It's....the helmet, isn't it?

No, the coffee. Only weirdos drinking coffee. Sane people go with tea.

 

[Dr. Mick]

No, the coffee. Only weirdos drinking coffee. Sane people go with tea.

Hmm... I resemble that remark.
As someone who drinks coffee almost exclusively, all day every day, and who is decidedly weird, this makes sense.

 

[Tremonia]

As someone who drinks coffee almost exclusively, all day every day, and who is decidedly weird, this makes sense.

It does. That's why I said it. Look at the weirdos in WIAB. They're all drinking coffee.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

No, the coffee. Only weirdos drinking coffee. Sane people go with tea.

 

[Maviarab]

No, the coffee. Only weirdos drinking coffee. Sane people go with tea.

It does. That's why I said it. Look at the weirdos in WIAB. They're all drinking coffee.

Well...

 

[Tremonia]

Exactly, weirdo!

 

[Dessolos]

Tea > Coffee never liked Coffee other than dipping Danish butter cookies in

 

[sorco2003]

 

[MiltonPowers]

It's....the helmet, isn't it?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Exactly, weirdo!

Okay put your leaves in the water to read the future, sure! I pulverise beans and run the water, like a mad alchemist looking for a tonic to last me through a single day!

*Goes and plays WiaB while drinking coffee to prove weirdness*

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

Okay put your leaves in the water to read the future, sure! I pulverise beans and run the water, like a mad alchemist looking for a tonic to last me through a single day!

*Goes and plays WiaB while drinking coffee to prove weirdness*

Seek some medical advice, please!

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Exactly, weirdo!

Tea > Coffee never liked Coffee other than dipping Danish butter cookies in

Know that you have been deeply disappointed Mommy Katie

 

[Dessolos]

Know that you have been deeply disappointed Mommy Katie
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perfectly fine with me until I replay this game only character I can recall liking is Miru I forgot everyone else

 

[Dr.TSoni]

perfectly fine with me until I replay this game only character I can recall liking is Miru I forgot everyone else

An understandable choice, have a nice day

 

[Tremonia]

Know that you have been deeply disappointed Mommy Katie

That's okay. She's a weirdo.

 

[Icekatana]

Things that don't take time away from development - better proof readers. If he's truly written the whole script, he can have people poring over it while he renders.

I've thought about asking him if he would like this. Without trying to sound haughty, I could contribute to more fluid and better dialogue. I have a lot of experience proofing. It would utterly destroy my enjoyment of watching these stories unfold, though. Maybe I shouldn't be so selfish. It has crossed my mind more than once.

 

[RENSHISENSAI]

when is the next update?