VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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RNasc4444

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I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother or stepmother?
Dylan - father or stepfather?
Katarina - cousin?
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - sister/step sister?
Katie - ?
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother?
Joe - husband to Scarlet or brother? "I hope he dropped the soap once in a while and learned his lesson!"
Zoey - ?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also
Oh buddy... Everyone here would love to help you clear it up. Problem is no one here knows for sure. Personally, I don't even think the dev knows at this point but even if he does, it's probably gonna change in the future anyways :)

Just think of them as landlords, tenants, roommates and childhood friends with no parental relation at all ;)
 

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I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother or stepmother?
Dylan - father or stepfather?
Katarina - cousin?
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - sister/step sister?
Katie - ?
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother?
Joe - husband to Scarlet or brother? "I hope he dropped the soap once in a while and learned his lesson!"
Zoey - ?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also
I can handle one of them for you.

Katie- Goddess.
 

multihacker

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We are all waiting for chapter 4 to find out how this issue turns out.
Until chapter 3 it would be:
Helen - mother
Dylan - father
Katarina - cousin
Scarlet - aunt (Katarina's mother)
Leia - twin sister
Katie - little sister
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother
Joe - husband to Scarlet
thx bro
 

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Oh buddy... Everyone here would love to help you clear it up. Problem is no one here knows for sure. Personally, I don't even think the dev knows at this point but even if he does, it's probably gonna change in the future anyways :)

Just think of them as landlords, tenants, roommates and childhood friends with no parental relation at all ;)
Ahhh to think, completely unintentionally...my Spaceballs roommate gif/phrase is ever funnier now since 'that DevLog' hahahahaha.....
 

John972

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You make a good point. But I imagine that he will want to play with his new toy, and them 200 becomes 400. Now I just prefer a faster update than a big one.
Jeezus! Don't say that! If the workstation is lightning fast and renders easily in 8K then another .... is on the horizon for SG/WIAB. /s o_O :)

On a more serious note, good for Ocean. The "I need a new workstation" saga has dragged on for some considerable time, so it's great that he is about to finally fulfill that ambition/goal.

As for the render count, 4,200 renders would make the update the equivalent of reworked chapters 1 to 3 - which took just over two years to release (Nov '21 to Jan '24) and likely roughly two-and-a-half years to create. So, by a back of the pad calculation, what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...
 

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Jeezus! Don't say that! If the workstation is lightning fast and renders easily in 8K then another .... is on the horizon for SG/WIAB. /s o_O :)

On a more serious note, good for Ocean. The "I need a new workstation" saga has dragged on for some considerable time, so it's great that he is about to finally fulfill that ambition/goal.

As for the render count, 4,200 renders would make the update the equivalent of reworked chapters 1 to 3 - which took just over two years to release (Nov '21 to Jan '24) and likely roughly two-and-a-half years to create. So, by a back of the pad calculation, what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...
Did not say it in a mean tone. I am glad for him as well. But is something that he is passionate about, and with shine new toys is easy to get lost, I know it is for me, just would prefer that he play with it in Ch5.


His numbers are completly insane, if he has done this much in a year - and I belive he did- are really crazy numbers, something closer to 12K renders I don't know that DPC is doing this much.

I just hope he does not burn out and can keep the pace, if he can deliver one update every 5 to 6 months he will get momentum.
 

John972

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Did not say it in a mean tone. I am glad for him as well. But is something that he is passionate about, and with shine new toys is easy to get lost, I know it is for me, just would prefer that he play with it in Ch5.


His numbers are completly insane, if he has done this much in a year - and I belive he did- are really crazy numbers, something closer to 12K renders I don't know that DPC is doing this much.

I just hope he does not burn out and can keep the pace, if he can deliver one update every 5 to 6 months he will get momentum.
Yeah, I agree.

Ocean appears hyper-focused and passionate. I know what that's like when working on a project, it becomes all-consuming, but bearable provided everything is moving forward. Plus, it's always amazing to look back and think, did I really get all that work done at that pace? From my own experience, the constant danger over the long-term is that one can suddenly find a new project or task to become hyper-focused on...

I trust Ocean has the sense to run his existing system and the new workstation in parallel in the meantime, at least until he finishes the existing updates and any unexpected bugs/issues are ironed out with his new workstation.
 
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Jeezus! Don't say that! If the workstation is lightning fast and renders easily in 8K then another .... is on the horizon for SG/WIAB. /s o_O :)

On a more serious note, good for Ocean. The "I need a new workstation" saga has dragged on for some considerable time, so it's great that he is about to finally fulfill that ambition/goal.

As for the render count, 4,200 renders would make the update the equivalent of reworked chapters 1 to 3 - which took just over two years to release (Nov '21 to Jan '24) and likely roughly two-and-a-half years to create. So, by a back of the pad calculation, what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...
Neither game is gonna finish
 

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Oh buddy... Everyone here would love to help you clear it up. Problem is no one here knows for sure. Personally, I don't even think the dev knows at this point but even if he does, it's probably gonna change in the future anyways :)

Just think of them as landlords, tenants, roommates and childhood friends with no parental relation at all ;)
twin roommate :Kappa:

what previously took 30-odd months to finish and release will take around 13-15 months...
You are an eternal optimist, aren't you?
 
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yossa999

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I just started playing. Can someone describe the family connections of MC and other characters?
Helen - mother
Dylan - father
Katarina - cousin
Scartel - aunt (Katarina's mother)?
Leia - twin sister
Katie - bibi
Lucas - cousin & Katarina's brother
Joe - husband to Scarlet "I hope he dropped the soap once in a while and learned his lesson!"
Zoey - Katie's gf?
Dana - Katarina's rival?
Emilio - ?
Jennifer - ?
Tony - ?
Jami - ?
Jack - ?
Dean - ?

Correct me if I'm wrong and add missed characters please also
I don't know if you aware of, but the crowdfunding platforms that host these games and from which new releases are leaked to this site - their rules prohibit the sexualization of incest. Many games whose authors ignored or tried to get around this rule, were removed from the platforms, and their devs lost the opportunity to receive financial support for their work. For example, this game was removed from Patreon in the middle of last year.

Therefore, developers change the plots of their games and the relationships between characters so as not to violate these rules. At the same time, they try to create a sense of taboo relationships between characters, tension because of this, while remaining within the rules and making their characters speak as vaguely as possible on these topics.

However, if you directly ask the developer about this on his Discord, firstly people there will show you the rules of his server, which prohibits discussing the family relationships of the characters, and secondly they will point you to a pinned post, where the author says that Leia and Katie are Willie's old friends. Sapienti sat.
 
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