VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[byaaahh]

It changed Hans entire story arc ... it was huge narratively, which is why so many Star Wars fans hated it. Of course Luke not being Vader's son would be even bigger, Luke and Leia ... meh, was not the focus.

It fundamentally changed nothing in the narrative. Han shooting first doesn't affect the story in any way, only how he is perceived by the audience. He is still a scoundrel and a smuggler, just not a murderous one. I grew up on the VHS and he will always shoot first, but in the grand scheme of Star Wars nothing changes.

In this however, we've gone from "they're all Zanes" to "William and Leia are twins but unrelated to anyone else" to "they're all just roommates". Considering William ran away because who he fell in love with, which now just turns out to be someone who he lived with, the Vader comparison is far more accurate than the Storm Trooper "Han shooting" analogy.

 

[wizardcock]

Ya, with the "adjustments" to the family dynamic I don't think I'm going to buy / support this game. It already had its Patreon page pulled. Ocean should have stayed with the story as it was originally written instead of changing it. It was much hotter with Leia & Katie as his sisters.

He's just playing it safe as much as possible. Judging by the planned number of episodes, the game will be in production for at least another 20 years, no joke. And by that time anything can change regarding incest at platforms he use ( SS, steam, GOG).

 

[X2JZcf]

Any changes in CH1-3 except that 'one' change, is it safe to skip forward to CH4?

Yep.

 

[vks017]

It fundamentally changed nothing in the narrative. Han shooting first doesn't affect the story in any way, only how he is perceived by the audience. He is still a scoundrel and a smuggler, just not a murderous one. I grew up on the VHS and he will always shoot first, but in the grand scheme of Star Wars nothing changes.

In this however, we've gone from "they're all Zanes" to "William and Leia are twins but unrelated to anyone else" to "they're all just roommates". Considering William ran away because who he fell in love with, which now just turns out to be someone who he lived with, the Vader comparison is far more accurate than the Storm Trooper "Han shooting" analogy.

This is not the right place to discuss it but basically Han shooting first showed someone who prioritized self-preservation, which in turn made his later arc of risking his life for others more significant.
Lets leave it at that.
I do agree with your later point about William and Leia at least.

 

[Razrback16]

He's just playing it safe as much as possible. Judging by the planned number of episodes, the game will be in production for at least another 20 years, no joke. And by that time anything can change regarding incest at platforms he use ( SS, steam, GOG).

If he ever changes the story back with the incest included I'd buy a copy of it to support.

 

[X2JZcf]

Umm

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Sorry for foreshadowing

 

[7empest5teele]

When I last was here, I thought season 1 was complete.
Is Season 1 chapter 4 a full remake from the initial scene or has there been added content included from what 0.6 ran?

 

[wizardcock]

If he ever changes the story back with the incest included I'd buy a copy of it to support.

 

[byaaahh]

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Well, RIP.

 

[Maviarab]

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Ocean is like a politician. I'd never take anything he writes down as concrete and definitive.

 

[TheReDeeMeR]

He doesn't want to just publish this on Steam. He wants it on Patreon, on GOG, on SS...everywhere basically. And he doesn't want to risk it getting taken down or threatened in any way further down the line. Incest is gone. For good. No patch will save this.

I've waited so long for this update, and we found out he did THIS massive change?
That was the whole reason most people played this game, and now there's no reason to play it anymore.
SO SAD

 

[X2JZcf]

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The futa Helen will rise again.

 

[Razrback16]

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Good to know. This will just be a game that I don't support, no biggie. Got other games I can spend my money on. Thanks for the info.

 

[byaaahh]

The futa Helen will rise again.

I had to take a break from this place after the pregnant Nika and Jeff picture, please don't...

 

[ianzaracod]

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[wizardcock]

Ocean is like a politician. I'd never take anything he writes down as concrete and definitive.

If it about the size of boobs or asses - yes, I agree.
But it looks like nothing will change here about incest.

 

[Adoringfan]

Wow, I just checked and the last time I played this game was 5/30 2020! It's been 5 years and the plot really hasn't moved that much and now it got the whole story rewritten to 'we can't kiss, you're my roommate!' and 'I shouldn't have these feelings for my landlady, it's wrong.'

 

[Lorenz1]

I'll be honest, it's just... mid. Not bad, Ocean's renders quality are still great, but it's basically a slideshow of exposition dumps and blueballing now. I can't recommend it in good faith unless you have nothing better to play.

 

[Zooch]

wow what a blue balling game... some of the hottest CG models and u have sex with 1 person...

 

[ianzaracod]

Too much tease, zero action, years for one update like this, devs are getting too comfortable making these games nowadays they know they can take years to deliver something that adds almost nothing and people will still pay for their shit.

wow what a blue balling game... some of the hottest CG models and u have sex with 1 person...

Man I can feel these frustrations xD