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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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wizardcock

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Ya, with the "adjustments" to the family dynamic I don't think I'm going to buy / support this game. It already had its Patreon page pulled. Ocean should have stayed with the story as it was originally written instead of changing it. It was much hotter with Leia & Katie as his sisters.
He's just playing it safe as much as possible. Judging by the planned number of episodes, the game will be in production for at least another 20 years, no joke. And by that time anything can change regarding incest at platforms he use ( SS, steam, GOG).
 

vks017

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It fundamentally changed nothing in the narrative. Han shooting first doesn't affect the story in any way, only how he is perceived by the audience. He is still a scoundrel and a smuggler, just not a murderous one. I grew up on the VHS and he will always shoot first, but in the grand scheme of Star Wars nothing changes.

In this however, we've gone from "they're all Zanes" to "William and Leia are twins but unrelated to anyone else" to "they're all just roommates". Considering William ran away because who he fell in love with, which now just turns out to be someone who he lived with, the Vader comparison is far more accurate than the Storm Trooper "Han shooting" analogy.
This is not the right place to discuss it but basically Han shooting first showed someone who prioritized self-preservation, which in turn made his later arc of risking his life for others more significant.
Lets leave it at that.
I do agree with your later point about William and Leia at least.
 
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Razrback16

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He's just playing it safe as much as possible. Judging by the planned number of episodes, the game will be in production for at least another 20 years, no joke. And by that time anything can change regarding incest at platforms he use ( SS, steam, GOG).
If he ever changes the story back with the incest included I'd buy a copy of it to support.
 

7empest5teele

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When I last was here, I thought season 1 was complete.
Is Season 1 chapter 4 a full remake from the initial scene or has there been added content included from what 0.6 ran?
 
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TheReDeeMeR

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He doesn't want to just publish this on Steam. He wants it on Patreon, on GOG, on SS...everywhere basically. And he doesn't want to risk it getting taken down or threatened in any way further down the line. Incest is gone. For good. No patch will save this.
I've waited so long for this update, and we found out he did THIS massive change?
That was the whole reason most people played this game, and now there's no reason to play it anymore. :cry:
SO SAD
 

Adoringfan

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Wow, I just checked and the last time I played this game was 5/30 2020! It's been 5 years and the plot really hasn't moved that much and now it got the whole story rewritten to 'we can't kiss, you're my roommate!' and 'I shouldn't have these feelings for my landlady, it's wrong.'
 

ianzaracod

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Too much tease, zero action, years for one update like this, devs are getting too comfortable making these games nowadays they know they can take years to deliver something that adds almost nothing and people will still pay for their shit.
wow what a blue balling game... some of the hottest CG models and u have sex with 1 person...
Man I can feel these frustrations xD
 

Feru452ax

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wow what a blue balling game... some of the hottest CG models and u have sex with 1 person...
last 2 updates, took in total 2 years and 8 months.

In both combined there were 2 boob sucking scenes. A NTR boob sucking scene and 1 or 2 (I cant recall) vanilla sex scene with girlfriend.

Dev destroying the BIBI BIBIS BIBI "story" people here said was Tolkien alike, afraid of Steam shutting him down like Patreon, making it even more a mess. Now is a 12 years old BIBI story, but without any real basic logic.

And the next update, which you can be sure it'll take even more time to come out, like it all, I bet on 2 years, we'll get one boob sucking scene and MAYBE 1 gf vanila boring sex, no dirty talking, no hair pulling, no nipple piercing nibbling, no nothing.


Ocean is like a politician. [...]
On point. He promisse X, get money from people, take tooo long to deliver anything, deliver Y, and people still lick his boots and give him more money.

Who on earth would be able to take 1 year and a half to give 1 boob sucking scene in a ADULT visual novel, with bunch on BIBI munbo jumbo from 25-30 years old that behave like kindergarten kids, and story with ZERO sense because he's willing to prostitute himself for more money.

AND STILL get money from those dumb shits that support him? Only a corrupted ass professional politician.

Exactly on point.

EDIT: lets not forget this update took 1 year and a half, and the gallery didnt got update since chapter 2, so you cant even rewatch the 2 boob scenes it got on the last 2 years and 8 months. But like a good politician, he promissed a "gallery rehaul" like he promissed not taking long after chapter 2, because NOW he had a VERY POTENT COMPUTER lik the one used in SG, so it would take AT MOST 6 months for any update.
Lazy work, little results, TONS of empty promisses, a real shitty politician.
 
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