VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Maviarab

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Nothing unexpected here to be honest, I think we all knew that SG was going to take full priority for the Steam release. Also makes perfect sense.

Nothing to see here, please move on.

(though can see the haters incoming in 3...2...1...)
 

Cabin Fever

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Nothing unexpected here to be honest, I think we all knew that SG was going to take full priority for the Steam release. Also makes perfect sense.

Nothing to see here, please move on.

(though can see the haters incoming in 3...2...1...)
Well the 2-3 weeks focus on SG probably means that won't come out in February neither. Wait til the trolls realize THAT.
 

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Nothing unexpected here to be honest, I think we all knew that SG was going to take full priority for the Steam release. Also makes perfect sense.

Nothing to see here, please move on.

(though can see the haters incoming in 3...2...1...)
Nothing new???? Miru has a ring, I don't remember that! She accessories her nips for the occasion :sneaky:
 

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i just wonder will he ever stop putting dates out because he is really bad with them maybe in a month or so there will be a schedule that works for him
Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
 
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yossa999

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i just wonder will he ever stop putting dates out because he is really bad with them maybe in a month or so there will be a schedule that works for him
As long as people understand that this is a rough estimate it's fine. I read "two weeks" as "about mid-March" :HideThePain:

Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
Publishing deadlines -> pressure -> negative impact on mental health -> decreased productivity -> shifting deadlines :HideThePain:

At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.

The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)
 

Quetzzz

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At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.
Right, that's the main reason why I think he can handle it. If pressure gets too much, people tend to shy away from confrontation.

The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)
I hope this isn't really true. Too many devs just dump their game on steam without providing help or support. I hope, at the least, that Ocean has recruited volunteers to moderate the Steam community forum.
 

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Well the 2-3 weeks focus on SG probably means that won't come out in February neither. Wait til the trolls realize THAT.
Setting tentative deadlines can still help his process. Setting a date provides a bit of pressure, which might be healthy for him.
As long as people understand that this is a rough estimate it's fine. I read "two weeks" as "about mid-March" :HideThePain:


Publishing deadlines -> pressure -> negative impact on mental health -> decreased productivity -> shifting deadlines :HideThePain:

At least he talks honestly and upfront about the current state of development and does not hide the delays, explains why that happened and how he plans to proceed. One could just post a couple of previews and say that everything is going as usual.

The only thing that encourages me is that there is only one last push to the finish line and the first release on Steam is a one-time event, so once it happens, all the extra work associated with it is gone. (reworking old chapters of SG, preparing a Steam version, localization into different languages, steam-related technical tasks)

REAL WORLD:

you repeatedly miss deadlines your client set -------> you lose the job, the money and the client



F95:

you repeatedly miss deadlines you set -------> you get praised
 
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yossa999

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REAL WORLD:

you repeatedly miss deadlines your client set -------> you lose the job, the money and the client



F95:

you repeatedly miss deadlines you set -------> you get praised
:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
When did Ocean become your employee? Would you like to share the details of your contract with him?

Why do you feel that you're entitled to demand something, such as releases on certain deadlines? And who, by the way, sets these deadlines?
 

Ottoeight

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:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
When did Ocean become your employee? Would you like to share the details of your contract with him?

Why do you feel that you're entitled to demand something, such as releases on certain deadlines? And who, by the way, sets these deadlines?
Did I demand anything?

:unsure:
 

Ottoeight

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:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
Oh, you didn't, did you? You just wanted to share your observations about the differences between REAL WORLD and F95, right?

Sorry, my fault, I misunderstood you.
I don't expect anything anymore.

Now, I'm going to make some more coffee. See ya.

:coffee::coffee:
 

yossa999

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What ? F95zone isn't part of the real world ? Are we nothing but a bunch of bots ??? :oops:
Welcome to the Zone, dude! For example, I am very old version of GPT-3, so sometimes I generate annoying nonsense about developers who are just people, so they may not be accurate in their estimates. :cool:
 

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REAL WORLD:

you repeatedly miss deadlines your client set -------> you lose the job, the money and the client



F95:

you repeatedly miss deadlines you set -------> you get praised
Ocean gave an estimated release schedule some months in advance, not deadlines or specific release dates.

As for F95:

Any Dev who estimates a release schedule months in advance gets pilloried on F95 as soon as that period passes without a game update.

Any Dev who stays mum and waits to announce a release date until a week or two before gets pilloried on F95 in the meantime for milking and taking too long between updates.
 

Tremonia

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Any Dev who estimates a release schedule months in advance gets pilloried on F95 as soon as that period passes without a game update.

Any Dev who stays mum and waits to announce a release date until a week or two before gets pilloried on F95 in the meantime for milking and taking too long between updates.
I'd like to say you're wrong but it's the truth. The funny thing is, the ones who're crying loudest are the ones who never pledged a dev and just want the stuff for free.
 
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