VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Dr.TSoni

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No, I'm just pointing out that there is far more sexual tension between William and Katie than there is between William and Leia, because most of the tension from Leia is her holding a grudge, not her wanting sex. And there is no clear indication that William is doing anything other than trying to make peace, and trying to fit in with his previous role. At least currently. Mon probably trusts William more than Leia does right now.

If Ocean does change the nature of Willi and Leia's relationship and future story that drastically (removing Leia as a LI), he'd better have an even more compelling plot, as very few people will be happy. But right, everything is up in the air until CH4 gives us some clarity. William's on route to Leia's house, I'm sure they'll have a heart to heart regarding why he has been absent, and we'll find out a lot about the future roadmap from that discussion I'm sure.
As usual when it comes to Ocean we can only hope XD
 

sorco2003

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I am in a hard position because I don't disagree with you, I can understand your point of view, but I can't forget what I know to engage with it. Maybe to someone who has no knowledge, it will work just fine, maybe even better. For me thought, I can't make sense of it, none of the Leia actions from the pool scene, to Katie comments, to the exchanges between Leia and William, to Monica, to the breakingdowns none of this can work for me if Leia is not a LI with a past with William. If Ocean retcon it, I will be sad, but is his story in the end of day. I just can't say it will be the story that captivated me, because will be a different story It can be even a better one, I don't know, it just can't be the same.
I totally understand and agree with you. Wiab is no longer what attracted me, and the changes will take it even further away from what attracted my attention so many years ago. Although the mental exercises we do are on sand (and shifting sand at that) they are necessary exercises for those of us who "want" to continue with the story, and who are seeing how it mutates in favor of SG. The changes do not come from the creative need, but from the need to protect the source of money. Normally these things do not end well, that is why we choose to do this mental gymnastics to sustain hope. If it manages to reach new generations, maybe it will even be a success, for the same old ones it is just a sum of frustrations.
 

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The changes do not come from the creative need, but from the need to protect the source of money. Normally these things do not end well, that is why we choose to do this mental gymnastics to sustain hope. If it manages to reach new generations, maybe it will even be a success, for the same old ones it is just a sum of frustrations.
honestly I find easy to cope if it is a pragmatic decision than Ocean changing the story once again. At least he still has the same vision and ate circumstances out of his control that obliged him to do it, the man got eat. I find the alternative, that Ocean change the story every time he finds himself in a tight spot, much more damaging, more so as the script is supposed already written.

Sorry...but it really isn't.
I know. My point was that from someone from the outside, it is aggressive. Maybe I did not used the best example as I was tired, but I did not intend to say BDSM= aggression.
 

Chut12

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Question why they use patreon can't they hire a developer to make a site where people can subscribe or give money using cards or other payment sources?
 

sorco2003

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Question why they use patreon can't they hire a developer to make a site where people can subscribe or give money using cards or other payment sources?
There are many reasons why...
Convenience
Simplicity in the operation
Confidence in the platform
Time to deal with payment methods administration
etc
etc
etc
 
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AnimeHentaiGamer

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funny thing is Oceanlab loves ntr and all his games have it but people keep crying over it so he removes them and keeps them as non cannon easter egg renders you can find their games.
 

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you know i notice that every time someone asks when the next update is coming they get messed and harrassed. OCEAN should be proud that so many people are looking forward to the next update and you want to know why ? i will tell you , it is because WIAB has become one of the top visual novels if not the top VS . and honestly i myself buy it every time it come out and i have it on steam also. only reason im not a monthly subscriber is the updates take so long to come out . otherwise i would be top tier monthly . stop hating on the people that look forward to it so much because one day they may just disappear
 
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Maviarab

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Because, no one ever literally knows the answer...

The only time anyone ever knows if Ocean says the exact date in a developer log.
You forgot the same idiots in the same threads with hardly any posts, the ones they do have all consist of Update when/Abandoned/Need hero/Milking/Any news etc etc and it gets fucking old. None of these idiots ever actually contribute to a thread, or are actual paying cutomers anyway so the dev has lost nothing. Also, 95% of the time, they could get their answer further up the same damn page or the previous page if they were not so lazy and entitled.

And some wonder why they get the reception they get? :FacePalm: :WeSmart:
 
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