VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[byaaahh]

Here, even with connections, it is difficult to risk a rookie screwing up.

I mean, when a powerful family leans on you...

Not only that. But then Dana is a mob laywer ?

If they offered to put in a word for her, not sure she'd know the implications. Just a friends family looking out for her.

 

[Fuzzy Nuts J]

Steam has stated it has a "we don't care" view on things UNLESS(!) it's ILLEGAL. And that dear gremlins is the very cookie that crumbles as it's still rising in the oven...
Family fun® is indeed illegal, as is the portrayal of such, in multiple countries...
So don't hop around and say that Steam won't care. They do, if it's made clear that it is illegal in any country. Then that said country will not have such things for sale.
Simple as that.
AND, they can always change to more restrictive rules, but RARELY does anyone change to more lax ones...

not really, in almost all cases the "illegality" surrounds forced or adult+minor relationships.

 

[LHDLLB]

I mean, when a powerful family leans on you...



If they offered to put in a word for her, not sure she'd know the implications. Just a friends family looking out for her.

But dosen't everyone knows that the Zanes are criminals ? Dosen't seem like a secret.

Oh, is that also the map of Wollust??? It's got two lakes for sure!

Forgot about the lake

 

[BobTheDuck]

I mean, when a powerful family leans on you...



If they offered to put in a word for her, not sure she'd know the implications. Just a friends family looking out for her.

Mon does mention that her job would be easier if Dana didn't get all the criminals of the hook, so you might not be wrong.

But in that situation, Dan could easily let a mob dude live rent free in her apartment.

But the glorious moment has arrived:

DANA IS WILLI'S LANDLORD NOW.

Yep.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Forgot about the lake

There's the moment we find the Zane's live out in the woods. I do wonder if they're the same woods the cabin in SG is in.

 

[mruggeri2]

There is that whole "They expect me to act like a meathead, so I'll just pretend" bit that Will does. I'm paraphrasing but that's basically it.

Then he proceeds to actually act like a meathead.

The things is, William is smarter than people think he is, but just by a bit.

He has this whole "They won't tell me what is going on, so I'm gonna force it" thing going on and keep doing stupid shit that makes things worse for everyone. But it's like, dude just abandoned everyone and left for years and now he is barely back for a week and expect everyone to reveal all of their criminal secrets to him because he is so trustworthy?

There's the moment we find the Zane's live out in the woods. I do wonder if they're the same woods the cabin in SG is in.

I wouldn't be surprised. There has been plenty of Summer easter eggs in this update.

 

[byaaahh]

But dosen't everyone knows that the Zanes are criminals ? Dosen't seem like a secret.

It seems like a pretty big secret, even William knew nothing of Joe's guns and drugs operation.

To the town they're likely successful club owners.

 

[LHDLLB]

There's the moment we find the Zane's live out in the woods. I do wonder if they're the same woods the cabin in SG is in.

Oh is a good point. The question is how much involved th Zans are on SGs plot ? And given how things went with William, maybe he did something similar for Nika and Nami ? They are the children of rival families he allowed to live ? Maybe the mob angle has some weight to it.

 

[byaaahh]

Oh is a good point. The question is how much involved th Zans are on SGs plot ? And given how things went with William, maybe he did something similar for Nika and Nami ? They are the children of rival families he allowed to live ? Maybe the mob angle has some weight to it.

After Ch4, seems likely that Nika and Nami are the next generation pawns to marry off.

 

[LHDLLB]

It seems like a pretty big secret, even William knew nothing of Joe's guns and drugs operation.

To the town they're likely successful club owners.

Except that Gina, Zoey, Dana, Mon everyone seems to know thet are criminals. And the business seems to only have take launch onde Leia got the Joe operation and that is the Aranos side of the family. So what is the Zane dealings? Dylan has a form of his own it seems.

 

[dan_roger69]

There's the moment we find the Zane's live out in the woods. I do wonder if they're the same woods the cabin in SG is in.

We will find out soon enough.

 

[BobTheDuck]

We will find out soon enough.

I'm hoping!

 

[byaaahh]

Except that Gina, Zoey, Dana, Mon everyone seems to know thet are criminals. And the business seems to only have take launch onde Leia got the Joe operation and that is the Aranos side of the family. So what is the Zane dealings? Dylan has a form of his own it seems.

Monica thinks they may be criminals because she's a cop who suspects Leia disappeared someone. Zoey is inner circle, being Katie's scissor sister. I don't recall Gina or Dana ever hinting at the families criminality.

We do know Leia is a successful club owner, Scarlet is high up in the medical field, not sure Helen's or Dylan's cover was ever revealed, hunter maybe?

 

[BobTheDuck]

After Ch4, seems likely that Nika and Nami are the next generation pawns to marry off.

100%. And, likely that the Petrovas and Reveras become families in Leia and Willi's rise to pwer somehow. That would mean Sasha saying she and Nika are from different worlds is a potential sign she's in a mafia family with her aunt trained as a bodyguard. Summer and Elsa's parents looking down on Nika, because they know he's from an outcast family (parents in a mafia car accident? Clipped?) Marla's husband the dean of the rival university's law school, whose names on Dana's certificate? I'm sure when she says Nika is part of her problem, she knows what happened in a car accident 15 years ago...

Except that Gina, Zoey, Dana, Mon everyone seems to know thet are criminals. And the business seems to only have take launch onde Leia got the Joe operation and that is the Aranos side of the family. So what is the Zane dealings? Dylan has a form of his own it seems.

Yeah, the lunch at the Relucia Diner that he and Helen went to seemed family business. We'll find out more about that I think. Also interesting to see that although Helen's the decision maker, she'd need Dylan while she's mute seeing she doesn't talk or write. Weird situation for a business meeting.

p "We're on our way to the Relucia Diner. We have business to attend."
scene ab475 with dssa
d "I see."
scene ab476 with dssa
p "And don't worry..."
scene ab477 with dssa
p "I'll do all the talking."

Monica thinks they may be criminals because she's a cop who suspects Leia disappeared someone. Zoey is inner circle, being Katie's scissor sister. I don't recall Gina or Dana ever hinting at the families criminality.

We do know Leia is a successful club owner, Scarlet is high up in the medical field, not sure Helen's or Dylan's cover was ever revealed, hunter maybe?

Dylan's a mechanic and repairs cars. That's why Donna's there - she's just a client, no connection, who just needed her car repaired, and it's not suspicious to him that she wants her gearbox looked at. And Dylan has two employees.

The town also knows Leia's place has private rooms for prostitution, and glory holes. They know it's not clean.

And yes, Mon is the one that mentions the guy Jorge that Leia disappeared, which Leia is surprised Willi knows about. But Mon was at Miss Aranos birthday party when Willi creampied her. She's no stranger to the two families for a long time. I'm sure she knows a lot more than their cover. She'd know why Joe is in prison. And at the pilce station Leia made no attempt to try and hide what a badass criminal she is. Gina having to deal with her brother being in Krayt probably knows how th town is run. And she took it in her stride when MIru mentioned how they 'did things back in Japan'.

Also, while looking, here's a nic variable:
$ KraytNeedsToDie = True

 

[byaaahh]

The town also knows Leia's place has private rooms for prostitution, and glory holes. They know it's not clean.

We don't know of the prostitution laws, I'm guessing it's legal or Monica would have a warrant and be kicking in the doors.

Gina having to deal with her brother being in Krayt probably knows how th town is run. And she took it in her stride when MIru mentioned how they 'did things back in Japan'.

Gina does mention needing Krayt to be gone and William can agree (the variable), but still, that doesn't imply she and the whole town know of the Zanes crime family. Joe is known as the head of a Motorcycle crew, so maybe some low level crime, but nobody should be jumping to the conclusion they are all implicated in a mafia.

 

[Maccabbee]

Apparently you're not taking crazy pills...it's just another example of Ocean's magnificent writing

Idk who graduates at 19 but I'm pretty sure Katie doesn't meet the IQ requirements for enrolling in college at 15 years old

You missed the point. William was guessing her age COMPLETELY wrong. He still thinks of her as BiBi. She's definitely early 20s.

 

[jtjr26]

I played the old version years ago and liked the game. I know with games like this there can sometimes be revisions but I was a bit disappointed by the lack of content.

 

[Maviarab]

I played the old version years ago and liked the game. I know with games like this there can sometimes be revisions but I was a bit disappointed by the lack of content.

You mean lewds by that statement.

I really don't see how anyone can call 8886 renders a 'lack of content'...it's just a ridiculous comment. As for the OG. that had less renders than the current rework.

 

[RNasc4444]

You missed the point. William was guessing her age COMPLETELY wrong. He still thinks of her as BiBi. She's definitely early 20s.

Ok...that would be on brand for him but...are you sure? We're just guessing here. I still think it would make more sense for her to be 20-22 but William should know her age. And if he was joking, wouldn't he go lower than 19 to illustrate his point that he still thinks of her as a bibi?

I don't know...it's not a big deal either here but still...I'd prefer if we were told more.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Yeah I guess that makes sense then. So the age gap is around 5-6 years. Which yeah makes it a little more creepy in my book for 16 year old Will to be kissing a 10-11 year old Katie.

I am not sure if Ocean did this math because 16 to 11 is a hell of a difference.

d "Yeah, I ran away when I was 16."

At the bar at the start.

Ultimately, the important thing is that we love our Zanes:
Dylan, William, Katie...
*checks notes on hand* Pimp and Moby-Dick

Yeah, is the only thing we know for sure. William left at 16. We are in the point that we don't know what we know anymore. Ocean need to give this story some ground, like really establish some elements of it.

I think we've established as the only certainty that William only gets turned on by women he "couldn't" have. He kissed Katie because they told him he couldn't, after having sex with Monica he realized he would prefer Leia because they told him he couldn't, he probably got together with Miru because she told him she had a boyfriend and they couldn't be together.