VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Yet you and all other others...

Are still here....living rent free....

Fucking comedy gold at this point at how pathetic some of you actually are. Did your mommy throw away your favourite toy when you were a child or not give you enough cuddles?
The simp tears are so beautiful lmao
 
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no mater of our choice we won't see the guy in train with miru after he sit near her and talked? no new tit play shows?!
im so mad, i was hoping for some miru ntr and nope, subway scene that u cant see at all lol even if its clearly not the main tag, with so much teasing about it in the writing if u go that path, we should have more scenes
There was a scrapped scene in the taxi with her and the krayt guy that people found in the game files (the one she mentioned on the phone). I wonder why it was scrapped..
 

Turret

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There was a scrapped scene in the taxi with her and the krayt guy that people found in the game files (the one she mentioned on the phone). I wonder why it was scrapped..
Yes, would be interesting to know the reason. But going by the retarded crap he currently delivers storywise, it will be "Mafia" as the reason.:ROFLMAO: Even on the open relationship path the scene is cut, which makes as few sense as cutting it in the NTR path.
 

fatal.exp

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Can someone tell me what changed after rework? I played the old version but was not aware of the rework.
If without spoilers: much better visuals, the soundtrack has changed for the better, everything feels smoother, as well as changes in the story, which (for me) made the game better but slower. Either way you should play it for yourself. But be prepared - the MC's chin and jaw moves more and more forward with each update
 
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yossa999

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Can someone tell me what changed after rework? I played the old version but was not aware of the rework.
Probably the main change, MC isn't related to anyone now. So, no bum-bum with step-sis anymore. If 'cest was the main reason you play, better drop the game right now.

Besides that, another big change is that Wollust is mostly ruled by criminal families with rather medieval rules and traditions, and the Zanes are one of those families. It's not that something like this wasn't intended in the old version, but now criminal rivalries and mafia life are brought to the forefront of the plot and some plot elements are adapted to this change in the main storyline.

Otherwise, it's still the same WiAB, only better. The MC (Oh yeah, his appearance has changed, he now looks like Momoa, but that's not new, in the old WiAB he was changed two or three times.) is still fooling around, groping girls, cracks dumb jokes and trying to figure out why Leia has asked him to return. But now all this has a mafia flavor.

There is certainly a small but rather vocal group of users here who took the change with hostility and endlessly repeat in this thread how they don't like anything since the release. And maybe twice as many people who didn't like the changes too, wrote a review about it and moved on.

The rest of us are enjoying the update and waiting for moar.
 

alain8891

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Out of interest... how can you restore a scene from unused Ch 4 renders if there was never a dialogue script for that scene? What am I missing?
The dialog was there, in a way, Miru is having a phone conversation with MC telling him what happened in the cab with the Krayt guy. I just reinserted that render as a flashback during that conversation.
 

Acsuka

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There was a scrapped scene in the taxi with her and the krayt guy that people found in the game files (the one she mentioned on the phone). I wonder why it was scrapped..
I linked the mentioned picture a little higher in spoiler. In the NTR route, when Miru and Will are talking on the phone, Miru literally says: "I let him play with my tits for a bit". But you can see in the picture that it's not just tits, and that Miru is not completely honest. If this picture had been included in this dialogue, then everyone would have immediately known that Miru was lying. But Ocean doesn't want to immediately reveal Miru's cheating to the players, not even in the NTR route. When they talk, Miru is naked, and in my opinion, by this time she has already fucked the krayt guy, who is still in the apartment. Look at her eyes and body language in every picture, it gives it away. But maybe no one notices this, because everyone only reads Miru's body and the dialogue. This is mainly due to Ocean's visuals, since in almost every picture in the game the characters get a sharp and clear image, but the background is always blurry and not clear. This is what happens in these pictures, it's a bit dark, Miru's body is sharp and clear, but the background is usually blurry. However, if you give the picture a little brightness and sharpen the image a little, I think the answer is there. Miru is not alone in the apartment, and someone is sitting on the couch. And if this is true, then it's understandable why Miru says at the end of the scene: "I'm tired"...
And now don't judge me, because this is just my theory...
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Acsuka

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I also believe Miru has been fucking around behind William's back. Her high libido betrays her.
This is exactly what I was talking about in my previous comment. To get to this point, you have to deny sex with Miru several times throughout the game. This causes sexual frustration and she really wants to have sex with someone. And I think the "final decision" was Katie's stupid scene in the cafe, when she moaned lustfully into Will's phone while talking to Miru. If you look closely at the pictures, Miru doesn't laugh or smile, as if this was really a joke. But this last one, again, is just a theory on my part.
 

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This is exactly what I was talking about in my previous comment. To get to this point, you have to deny sex with Miru several times throughout the game. This causes sexual frustration and she really wants to have sex with someone. And I think the "final decision" was Katie's stupid scene in the cafe, when she moaned lustfully into Will's phone while talking to Miru. If you look closely at the pictures, Miru doesn't laugh or smile, as if this was really a joke. But this last one, again, is just a theory on my part.
Is that canonical, or just on the NTR/cheat route?
 

Acsuka

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Is that canonical, or just on the NTR/cheat route?
It's not canon because if you always give Miru what she wants and treat her well, then this scene is different. Miru is cooking in an apron while they're talking on the phone. So there's no cheating on this route.. This only happens if you do the things I mentioned in the story. And if you have the NTR option turned on at the beginning of the game...
 

Maccabbee

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It's not canon because if you always give Miru what she wants and treat her well, then this scene is different. Miru is cooking in an apron while they're talking on the phone. So there's no cheating on this route.. This only happens if you do the things I mentioned in the story. And if you have the NTR option turned on at the beginning of the game...
Good, 'cause nothing would make me rage quit faster. Miru is MY LIFE!!!
 
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