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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Macky009

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can someone enlighten me on what the current family relations are? i only somewhat remember that mc and leia and katie were supposed to be siblings. dylan was his (step)-father? i dont know. and the mute woman was supposedly his... not mother anmyore? currently, i can't see through ^^
so: who is mc, who are leia, katie, and the rest
I'd appreciate the help :)
MC and Leia are both adopted to the Zane family, when both of there family got killed in a mob war. Leia and MC are not even related if I remember MC's last name is Grimaldi.
 

anscho

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according to the link posted as an answer, it shows MC, Leia and Katie as siblings, children to Dylan and Helen. So now they are adopted siblings from 3 different families (1 each, with Katie being blood related to Dylan and Helen). Good. I now understand more, thank you kindly for your answers :D
 

8l4kk8l00d

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This has been reworked once.
I mean sure but this game has been sent back to the apartment before getting a phone call from the twin twice, there was a rework like 4 years ago or more, Then it got to the party with the younger sister guilt tripping the MC then the game got round house kicked back to stage one.

It has been a while and progress has not been anything close to fast. I like the overall direction of this current version is going, I hope they lean on the criminality and the old school gangster chic for the MC.
 

SonsOfLiberty

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That was all done with CH4 for it's Steam release.
It was done for SS, both versions are the same now, the change was talked about even before Steam because of the 'clause in SS TOS.

I guess might be only a matter of time before SS starts enforcing it, unless they start only accepting AMEX since AMEX didn't cave over in Japan like VISA/MasterCard did.
 
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balboa2151

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alright everyone, I've been sifting through multiple pages trying to find my answer to my question so I apologize beforehand if this question has been asked a thousand times, soooo, I understand how NTR works, one of my questions is, if we have NTR turned on does Miru definitely cheat on the MC? And if NTR is off does that close the option to be with MC's family? (I'm using the taboo patch). Does Miru accept that MC will cheat or does she get pissed off? And if MC does cheat does Miru leave the MC and does the MC have a choice who to end up with? Any help would be greatly appreciated
 

LHDLLB

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alright everyone, I've been sifting through multiple pages trying to find my answer to my question so I apologize beforehand if this question has been asked a thousand times, soooo, I understand how NTR works, one of my questions is, if we have NTR turned on does Miru definitely cheat on the MC? And if NTR is off does that close the option to be with MC's family? (I'm using the taboo patch). Does Miru accept that MC will cheat or does she get pissed off? And if MC does cheat does Miru leave the MC and does the MC have a choice who to end up with? Any help would be greatly appreciated
No, even with NTR turned on Miru will only cheat depending on your choices, No you can persue any LIs or side girl of your liking with it turned on or off. I don't think that Miru will accept cheating either way, but the game also has a open relantionship route, so Miru can be okay with William fucking around with girls she is okay with him fucking around but if you go for one of the no list there will be consequences, the type we don't know, maybe she wil dump you or fuck your not father, who knows ? Yes, you can choose who to date, also all sexual stuff with Miru is optinal.
 
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Irondic

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I'm not a fan of incest, but i gotta admit the story is very weird without the incest patch. There must be someone here that's gotta agree with me.

Does someone know if it is coming or are we gonna say bye to incest patch?
 
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KiryuKazuma095

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I'm not a fan of incest, but i gotta admit the story is very weird without the incest patch. There must be someone here that's gotta agree with me.

Does someone know if it is coming or are we gonna say bye to incest patch?
I am not 100% sure but I believe the incest will be gone forever due to Patreon and Steam guidelines !!!

Now as for the story, The mafia thing is written weirdly and makes 0 sense at all
 
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yossa999

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I'm not a fan of incest, but i gotta admit the story is very weird without the incest patch. There must be someone here that's gotta agree with me.

Does someone know if it is coming or are we gonna say bye to incest patch?
You better get ready that soon there will be no incest in any game distributed through platforms like Patreon, Steam, SubscribeStar.
 

Luxnux

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I recently played the material available so far with mod restoring some taboo parts And I have to say, I actually liked the changes. without the mod I'm sure it would be a terrible read from all the lines of dialogue that I know weren't like that originally But compared to the level of plot we have in most AVs I'm satisfied with WIAB
The characters remain charismatic, I like William as the protagonist and the whole dynamic with Miru
 
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dark0947

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Hi. Could someone please share a save file from Chapter 4 of the game? I don't want to start the game from the beginning, and my previous save isn't working.

Cheers :coffee:
 

LHDLLB

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Patreon and Steam, this is how we got here. Hate or love the change but Ocean doged a bullet, can you imagined Steam dropping the bomb 3 days after he released WiaB on it ? It will be the end of it. I have my problems with it but bad WiaB still is better than none WiaB.

Written as a man whose family is held hostage by the mafia
They are everywhere
 

azz111

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"Quiet, virgin. Don't you have a subreddit to moderate?" lol, ow my poor sides!
On the other hand, when these games so accurately reflect the real world, it kinda detracts from the escapism.
 
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Capt_Kirk

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I have my problems with it but bad WiaB still is better than none WiaB.
any other person with decent writing skills could've done a better job getting out of that predicament but we're talking about Ocean the guy that as soon as he sees a pen and paper or microsoft word he become "Mr. Ocean Hyde "
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DuckWalker

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Not a fan of incest, but the MC's running away makes less sence and stupid, the games overall story always hinted towards organized crime, atleast I felt like that even before the rewrite. The overall premise makes sense but it feels like there is some thing lacking (and not talking about lack of sex, which this game also does). I have mixed feeling regarding the direction this game is going, but this is just season 1, but the speed of development makes you think GRRM might finish his ASOIAF books before we will see the end of Summer's Gone and WIAB.
 
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