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VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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Feru452ax

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So WiaB is on pause until Summer's Gone release so that's December this year or the first quarter of 2026. So we can be looking for chapter 5 of WiaB somewhere near winter 2026 if we go by Oceans record of release dates and production time. Or we can look for him to say he needs a break because he is Mentality drained and needs to recharge his battery and that will take several months at least 90 days.:coffee::p;):giggle:

This is amazing. I remember he saying he needed more supporters to buy a second rig, so he could always work on both games at the same time. While one PC rendered one game, he would work on the other, since rendering took the longest for updates.

Like I said, every single update will take longer than the last one, for a boob grab scene (sex scenes are harder to make, fluid and etc.). While the morons keep supporting, he'll continue to behave like this, minimum effort and lots of money.
 

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As expected, working on 2 games of the highest quality is not really going well. Way too long development cycle.
I said that several years ago about his games. I haven't played them in a very long time (years), I finally checked out the other game and... hardly any new content when you consider how long it's been since I last played it. But, that doesn't surprise me. Glad we have other games to choose from.
 
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Dr.TSoni

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Laia for Free hugh ... Wouldn't even take this thing for Free, because it's still to expensive and and the brain will rot away if ya are to long in her presence. Can't help but i still completly Dislike her. Old Wiab or New doesn't matter. :ROFLMAO:
At least in the old WiaB she had principles, she bought clubs that the gangs wanted to minimize their influence and she didn't run a prostitute ring.
 

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At least in the old WiaB she had principles, she bought clubs that the gangs wanted to minimize their influence and she didn't run a prostitute ring.
I mean, I will not say that Leia is a good person but I kinda don't get the hate. Yeah, she is a pimp but she also is show to be kind and protective of the girls, she is manipulative but Helen, Katie also were, Miru too. She hates William but also everybody does too, and in some cases she has a better claim to it. She is a criminal but so is/was Miru all the Zanes and William himself. RNasc4444 at least is consist that he dosent like anybody but 2 or 3 characters but I don't understand why Leia is seen as this evil figure if she is just as grey as every other character she is just a cunt about it.
 
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Dr.TSoni

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I mean, I will not say that Leia is a good person but I kinda don't get the hate. Yeah, she is a pimp but she also is show to be kind and protective of the girls, she is manipulative but Helen, Katie also were, Miru too. She hates William but also everybody does too, and in some cases she has a better claim to it. She is a criminal but so is/was Miru all the Zanes and William himself. RNasc4444 at least is consist that he dosent like anybody but 2 or 3 characters but I don't understand why Leia is seen as this evil figure if she is just as grey as every other character she is just a cunt about it.
Until a chapter ago she was the only criminal, it is difficult to reevaluate years of events
 

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I mean, I will not say that Leia is a good person but I kinda don't get the hate. Yeah, she is a pimp but she also is show to be kind and protective of the girls, she is manipulative but Helen, Katie also were, Miru too. She hates William but also everybody does too, and in some cases she has a better claim to it. She is a criminal but so is/was Miru all the Zanes and William himself. RNasc4444 at least is consist that he dosent like anybody but 2 or 3 characters but I don't understand why Leia is seen as this evil figure if she is just as grey as every other character she is just a cunt about it.
I guess it all depends on perspective but even with this new Mafia angle I think Leia stands far above everyone else we've seen as a despicable character.

I mean let's be honest how worse could she be? She deals drugs, deals weapons and engages in prostitution. And this is only what we know for sure. There's a chance she actually made someone "disappear". And I'm sure her criminal activities are more vast and nefarious that what we know until now. She's possibly a loan shark too given the shake down we see at the bar. She is so bad that even her lowlife criminal henchmen are concerned about how far she's going. Let that sink in. Her lowlife criminal trash pals are worried that she's going too far.

Now I know that people playing these games are riddled with "porn brain disease" and that makes them more lenient but imagine for just a minute that she was a real person. In the real world. How would you feel about her?

I have no idea what's coming next in the story but to me, she's already beyond any possible redemption. Prison or morgue is what she has coming to her. Preferably the latter :LOL:
 

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I guess it all depends on perspective but even with this new Mafia angle I think Leia stands far above everyone else we've seen as a despicable character.

I mean let's be honest how worse could she be? She deals drugs, deals weapons and engages in prostitution. And this is only what we know for sure. There's a chance she actually made someone "disappear". And I'm sure her criminal activities are more vast and nefarious that what we know until now. She's possibly a loan shark too given the shake down we see at the bar. She is so bad that even her lowlife criminal henchmen are concerned about how far she's going. Let that sink in. Her lowlife criminal trash pals are worried that she's going too far.

Now I know that people playing these games are riddled with "porn brain disease" and that makes them more lenient but imagine for just a minute that she was a real person. In the real world. How would you feel about her?

I have no idea what's coming next in the story but to me, she's already beyond any possible redemption. Prison or morgue is what she has coming to her. Preferably the latter :LOL:
You forgot to mention blackmail and bribing ...as for the make someone disappear.. It's exactly that that will make her regret it sooner or later, why??Because she ignores the fact that Feds are all over her... MC warned the entire family that something is not right but all of them are acting like it is a game....
 

Dr.TSoni

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Now I know that people playing these games are riddled with "porn brain disease" and that makes them more lenient but imagine for just a minute that she was a real person. In the real world. How would you feel about her?
If we want to assume that they are real people, we have to ask ourselves how Wollust did not end up in the hands of the Triad or the Irish or why not the Russians?
 
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