VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[X2JZcf]

prostitution is a dirty business but I got the impression that Leia does it as clean as possible, and on that matter so is pornography but we are given a choice to become a porn producer and bring or girlfriend to it. I Agree on the Jorge situation too. As for the weapons, there are a lot of ways at looking at it. None of it make it good though and is not what I am arguing anyway. I could say that is something that countries does all the time, that she is selling abroad só is not like she is arming criminals, that she is seeling to rebels with a just cause, dosen't matter, I am not trying to justify her actions, Leia is not a good person. But does it makes her worse ? Feels to me like a arbitrary morality line that dosen't make sense. To ke people just don't like Leia's personality, with is completely fair, and then paint the picture of her as this personification of evil when we got plenty of sugestition and more explicit information that Leia is no worse than others characters with a more fun personality that dosen't suffers this hate

We're gonna ditch everyone for Monica and the busty FBI agent.

 

[Maviarab]

The dubious part I mentioned of course, is that if a girl decides to quit, she probably also (near) immediately homeless.

Which like health insurance in the states...makes it designed so the girls don't quit

Ofc she looks after her girls...they make her money. You don't damage or mistreat your own merchandise. She isn't some benevelent mother figure. Do people not actually read the dialogue and look properly at the renders?

They are fucking terrified of her.

 

[Chillout1984]

Which like health insurance in the states...makes it designed so the girls don't quit

Ofc she looks after her girls...they make her money. You don't damage or mistreat your own merchandise. She isn't some benevelent mother figure. Do people not actually read the dialogue and look properly at the renders?

They are fucking terrified of her.

Yes they are terrified of her, that you easily notice. I was more talking about Leia's expressions when she was talking about them. It didn't look to me as if she was talking about merchandise, but more as if she was talking about her sisters or daughters or something.

 

[X2JZcf]

Oh don't get me wrong, is more than a fair reason to not like a character or person. My "problem" is the notion that Leia is some sort of utimate evil because she is facilitates sex, killeed a harasser and is seeling weapons to third world countries. Sure, she is not a good person but I don't see how she is worse than a literal mob family.

Leia brainwashed William into breaking up with Monica. Not our bro.

 

[Maviarab]

Yes they are terrified of her, that you easily notice. I was more talking about Leia's expressions when she was talking about them. It didn't look to me as if she was talking about merchandise, but more as if she was talking about her sisters or daughters or something.

Which if was the 'actual' case, then they wouldn't be terrified of her...would they?

 

[Chillout1984]

Which if was the 'actual' case, then they wouldn't be terrified of her...would they?

Sure they would, if they know Leia's reputation and/or Leia's acting like a cold-hearted bitch while she's around them.

Leia wouldn't be the first boss of which employees are scared off (mostly to not want them to leave or to let them make as little mistakes as possible), while in reality she cares about them as if they were loved ones.

 

[X2JZcf]

Can’t wait when Leia does this to the working girl who slept with William. And we can finally bring her down.

 

[Maviarab]

Sure they would, if they know Leia's reputation and/or Leia's acting like a cold-hearted bitch while she's around them.

Leia wouldn't be the first boss of which employees are scared off (mostly to not want them to leave or to let them make as little mistakes as possible), while in reality she cares about them as if they were loved ones.

 

[Chillout1984]

I could be mistaken, but I believe it was even Leia who said that it's much better for the girls to be terrified but work for her where they're safe and where she can protect them, instead of being out in the streets where they're in danger. Although I do admit I could've also got this from another story. Like I said, this isn't the first boss I've read about that acts like Leia.

 

[LHDLLB]

Both the porn business and prostitution through bordellos/stripclubs/whatever you want to call them in general are quite clean when correctly regulated (which at least is the case for the porn industry in the US as far as I'm aware and I've also read there are usually inspections at strip clubs). There are of course bad apples, but you have those in every industry.

You are correct that Leia does it as clean as possible and unless she's acting, she does really care about "her" girls. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but I got the feeling that her girls only are prostitutes if they want to. If they don't, it seems she's just fine with them working non-sexual jobs at her business. The dubious part I mentioned of course, is that if a girl decides to quit, she probably also (near) immediately homeless.

It can be clean, what I meant was that is a easy environment for explanation and violence. Much more than yoir avarage 9h to 17h job.

We're gonna ditch everyone for Monica and the busty FBI agent.

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MONICA ALL THE WAY

Which like health insurance in the states...makes it designed so the girls don't quit

Ofc she looks after her girls...they make her money. You don't damage or mistreat your own merchandise. She isn't some benevelent mother figure. Do people not actually read the dialogue and look properly at the renders?

They are fucking terrified of her.

Have you seen how some sex works are exploitated around the world ? Leia conducds her bunisess in a much clean manner. That is not to say that it is perfect or that is not a bunisess in the end of the day. Is not a house for women in need is a whorehouse, why it should be anything but a whorehouse ? And we see girls talk about her in a grateful and even awe tone too. Two things can be true at once.

 

[RNasc4444]

We're (RNasc4444 is) gonna ditch everyone for Monica and the busty FBI agent.


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[El_Magnifico]

I mean, I will not say that Leia is a good person but I kinda don't get the hate. Yeah, she is a pimp but she also is show to be kind and protective of the girls,

 

[Chillout1984]

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At least it's easy money, she didn't need to touch the dick

 

[LHDLLB]

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If your boss dosen't spread someone cum on your face does she really likes you ?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Not really, the Zanes were never clean. All of Leia's operations are in fact not hers but Uncle Joe. The Zanes always had criminal afiliations, maybe not full mob family with codes about not fucking your not sister, but always had criminal afiliations.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but until chapter 3 the only operation my uncle did was the grass which she greatly amplified the rest was her work.

 

[Maviarab]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but until chapter 3 the only operation my uncle did was the grass which she greatly amplified the rest was her work.

No need to correct you because you are not wrong

 

[LHDLLB]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but until chapter 3 the only operation my uncle did was the grass which she greatly amplified the rest was her work.

I can't be sure on this matter, and I don't have a pré rework ch 3. I think all of Leia's bunisess always was of Uncle Joe, but I don't think it matters much either way

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I can't be sure on this matter, and I don't have a pré rework ch 3. I think all of Leia's bunisess always was of Uncle Joe, but I don't think it matters much either way

Currently yes, we now work under totally different premises in any case

 

[LHDLLB]

Currently yes, we now work under totally different premises in any case

Even before I don't think it changes much if the prostitution ring was always Joes or not

 

[jadepaladin]

If your boss dosen't spread someone cum on your face does she really likes you ?

Maybe that's how they show affection in Wollust. No wonder Will left.