VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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BobTheDuck

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It's your game, make it what you want it to be.
Uncut Edition MOD...
These two quotes are quite opposite: You don't want to play the game the way the dev made it, but you're happy for him to make it the way he wants it, but you're also worried about the relational changes and how it will impact your enjoyment? I get people want the game the way it was, but Ch5 will have a deeper rift with the past, Ch6 will widen it and so on. At some point, the mod will be the modder making an entire new script for the game, because Season 1 full will head further and further away from the thing that will cause the dev to lose their income.

As a dev yourself, you probably understand the issue of authenticity vs getting your work blacklisted. Ocean doesn't want his work blacklisted by the payment processors. It is what it is, and it's unlikely to ever return to a free market.

Maybe I'm just too used to these situations becoming a harem, especially with one of the first Chapter 1 options being to ask about an open relationship (harem setup) with Miru. Miru is fine with MC screwing around on her in every possible way except that singular penis-in-vaj possibility. Foreplay and tease, tempt and twerk, but no "just the tip" allowed?

My hopes are that a Harem route might be possible... But I'm not going to wait for it.
Open relationship and harem are not the same thing. Miru specifically notes that it's only okay if you don't have feelings. It's simply extra sex to meet both of your needs and enhance the relationship with experimentation. She forbids Daphne being an option because she knows there are feelings there, she's okay with Zoey because she can see it's just a case of horny.

THe whole existence of this is not to start a harem, but to open cheating/NTR options. You develop a case of feelings for any of the shring girls, Miru's going to cheat on you seems to be the set up. There are likely to be stable situations with sharing, but it's doubtful there will be any harem, Ocean's been against harems a long time.

Nice review though, some good points/observations.
 

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Well, it's more like yes and no. She does stuff off-screen and talks a little about it. Also, there is a scene where it looks very much like she's up to something and lies to MC about it. It's implied and subtle.
Not really. If open route it's a slightly different scene at home with her. The implied is an unused render left in the files so can take it as not canon or happened.
 

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helen is the mom, leia twin sister and katie the sister why its not writing like that
Because you missed the memo and the subsequent very long (and dare I say it, pointless because it won't change Ocean's mind) discussion about why that was the original plot and Ocean was basically forced to change it?
 

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Because you missed the memo and the subsequent very long (and dare I say it, pointless because it won't change Ocean's mind) discussion about why that was the original plot and Ocean was basically forced to change it?
yep i finish the game and leia is the only one related...the zane adopt the twins if i understand well
 

LHDLLB

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Leia is not related to anyone....they are not twins!
At this point they have read four chapthers of the story, they know that there is no familial relations in this game but you can't argue with someone who just don't wanna see. At some people the people who were here for the IC content only will just move on and the discussion will die with them.
 
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Not really. If open route it's a slightly different scene at home with her. The implied is an unused render left in the files so can take it as not canon or happened.
I wasn't talking about the unused render. She talks to MC on the phone and it very much looks like she's looking at someone in their old apartment. She also talks to him about what they did in the cab (even though the render is unused). Here:

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She also says that she's tired after she hangs up. Was she talking to herself? Perhaps. Even if she isn't looking at anyone else, she does talk about off-screen NTR that she did. So, yes and no, like I said.
 
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I wasn't talking about the unused render. She talks to MC on the phone and it very much looks like she's looking at someone in their old apartment. She also talks to him about what they did in the cab (even though the render is unused). Here:

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She also says that she's tired after she hangs up. Was she talking to herself? Perhaps. Even if she isn't looking at anyone else, she does talk about off-screen NTR that she did. So, yes and no, like I said.
all that is true but it does not add up to her character, Miru simply don't have a reason to lie or cheat rigth now and to do so would go against everything we know about her. Is possible that there is something she has not telling William but I don't think it is NTR related but a way that Ocean can intruduce this elements in the story.
 

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all that is true but it does not add up to her character, Miru simply don't have a reason to lie or cheat rigth now and to do so would go against everything we know about her.
To unlock this scene, you need to avoid having sex with her and instead increase her arousal level. That’s her reason.
 
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all that is true but it does not add up to her character, Miru simply don't have a reason to lie or cheat rigth now and to do so would go against everything we know about her. Is possible that there is something she has not telling William but I don't think it is NTR related but a way that Ocean can intruduce this elements in the story.
I totally agree with this, I think the original idea was to have NTR, but the speed and the non-occurrence of events that Ocean had already anticipated had to happen, made the scene something out of nowhere. It would have been an even bigger hole for a so far solid path.
 
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all that is true but it does not add up to her character, Miru simply don't have a reason to lie or cheat rigth now and to do so would go against everything we know about her. Is possible that there is something she has not telling William but I don't think it is NTR related but a way that Ocean can intruduce this elements in the story.
Well I think Fucking Daphne will push her to do it
 

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To unlock this scene, you need to avoid having sex with her and instead increase her arousal level. That’s her reason.
If not fucking for 3 days was enough for her to cheat they would not be dating for over 6 years. Miru has a high libido is not a nynphomaniac. Futhermore the render is not cannon she could just have wished that things have gone futher but stoped, the render could be her imagination or something like that. Is clear that Miru wants to fuck, I just don't think that she would cheat William just yet
 
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