RNasc4444
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Have you finished it already or nah??? I wanna know what you thought. Already know Bob loved this shitshow for some reasonGive it time
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That would be great my only advice is to wait at least for the next update Ocean may do somthing to exactly contradict the patch like a back story of Will and Leia parents just to say to the gods in patreon "i swear it wasn't me"I can't deny that rewriting parts of chapter 4 to accommodate William and Leia beings twins is a challenge, but given enough time, I think I'm up to the challenge. Here's my vision for it: William and Leia are the same family, taken in by the Zanes when their parents were murdered (that part doesn't change). But the reason for William bailing years ago is still because of the relationship with Leia, but not because of some "mob family" bullshit rule, just because...they're siblings...and because of "family" pressure. The forced mariage rules becomes a way to try and break that relationship at its roots, to distance Leia from William. So the whole mafia stuff will be there to stay, sorry if that still hurts your trying to make sense of it all
On a sidenote, I do believe that's what Ocean had envisioned himself at some point, when he said that only Leia and William would be related. When you have a closer look at the script and dialogues you do realize that stuff was probably the last to go in his numerous changes to family dynamics.
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Have you finished it already or nah??? I wanna know what you thought. Already know Bob loved this shitshow for some reason
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I think it's pretty clear that this will definitely go to their parents backstories. Too much hidden, and too much foreshadowing, demands it.
RNasc4444
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Hurry the fuck up!
I need someone with a brain to bring out some solid arguments that can make me hate this crap a little less. Because right now I'm kinda freaking out about the future of SG.
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Hurry the fuck up!
I need someone with a brain to bring out some solid arguments that can make me hate this crap a little less. Because right now I'm kinda freaking about the future of SG.
Jesus H guys...alright alright alright...
*centers his
I'll get back to you tomorrow
RNasc4444
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Oh shit great to read a post from you! Haven't seen one in a whileSG sucks, though.
And now so does WiAB.
Ok one more WiAB lover disappointed with the new update
Can't help but agree. Though I still have some hope for SG.
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Yeah, I'm among those who feel the relationship changes have made a mess of the story. I'll still follow it for the eventual lewd scenes, but the story is now too convoluted and stupid (for me). I get there are people who like it. But meh, what do they know? lolOk one more WiAB lover disappointed with the new update
I'll also add that when I first started VNs only a few years ago, incest was the top taboo for me. It's not anymore and I only add patches when it removes the stupid-ass 'landlord', 'landlady', 'roommate' shit. But for this particular story, it made the most sense... especially for those of us who remember "Ugly Miru".
Anyway... it is what it is... I've only paid once for a release of this game and I probably won't ever pay Ocean again. Much better VN's (even if they aren't as good render-wise)... that I'd rather give funding to.
jadepaladin
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I can relate to this. When I first got into VNs, I tried to keep to "safe" stuff. Never imagined I'd read an incest one and get anything out of it. I don't remember if it was WiaB or something like Sisterly Lust where I was finally like "fuck it." Now, incest doesn't even phase me as a tag, it might well say vaginal sex or something.
This story just made more sense with incest and I'm not sure what to make of all the changes.
Because patreon has declared that it will no longer buy fairy tales about landlords and roomates, that's why this whole mystical story about mafia rules Nojiko is not a surrogate mother to Nika and Nami, nor their landlord. They are now part of the same mafia program as Leia and William, in fact, it can now be said this part of the story for SG and WIAB is written by Patreon and not Ocean. I wonder what he will do if they tell him that they don't buy ''mafia rules'' either.
The only advantage of all this is that now Nojiko and Ayua off limits now does not work, if he does not do it, it is only to spite the fans, not because he cannot.
That's why it's hard for me to understand the admiration for what Ocean did, it all comes from necessity and not inspiration, his greatest achievement is that at the moment he made a fool of patreon, inspired by the situation of MC from Delucas who lives with four women like a family member but can enter into intimate relations with them because he is a hostage of the mafia
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lorkdubo
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This. If he just dropped a lot of lore in this game to expand the universe and give more info about Summer's Gone, then he does this. I don't understand Mav defending this heap of shit. The rewrite is just that bad.