Hurry the fuck up!
Oh shit great to read a post from you! Haven't seen one in a whileSG sucks, though.
And now so does WiAB.
Yeah, I'm among those who feel the relationship changes have made a mess of the story. I'll still follow it for the eventual lewd scenes, but the story is now too convoluted and stupid (for me). I get there are people who like it. But meh, what do they know? lolOk one more WiAB lover disappointed with the new update
I can relate to this. When I first got into VNs, I tried to keep to "safe" stuff. Never imagined I'd read an incest one and get anything out of it. I don't remember if it was WiaB or something like Sisterly Lust where I was finally like "fuck it." Now, incest doesn't even phase me as a tag, it might well say vaginal sex or something.
Because patreon has declared that it will no longer buy fairy tales about landlords and roomates, that's why this whole mystical story about mafia rules Nojiko is not a surrogate mother to Nika and Nami, nor their landlord. They are now part of the same mafia program as Leia and William, in fact, it can now be said this part of the story for SG and WIAB is written by Patreon and not Ocean. I wonder what he will do if they tell him that they don't buy ''mafia rules'' either.
This. If he just dropped a lot of lore in this game to expand the universe and give more info about Summer's Gone, then he does this. I don't understand Mav defending this heap of shit. The rewrite is just that bad.
SG sucks, though.
And now so does WiAB.
I would not say is a shitshow, is honestly better than I expected, I was between Ocean going SG route and - wink,wink. That dosen't work there but is just one stance, and here would be a full shitshow. And he cutting Leia as a LI, with migth have been the less drastic of decisions, even though I would not like it. Expanding the criminal side of the story, makes sense, it trully does. What dosen't make sense is how he just pivot the story in the first 15 min of this update, and half of it is just retconing the first 3 chapthers. Not in information but in subtext, maybe is because I don't have fresh eyes, but it still very much feels like William is coming back home to all the shame that it means, not to be Judged and maybe killed. Is a HUGE tonal whipslash, one that I can't completly fault him for but it is here nonetheless. By the end of the update things got way better, the whole Leia club is great and there is many juicy little things for the thread to talk about once the postmortum ends. Is a good update. But Ocean still has to work some things out, is a work in progress, he did not sell it as a finihed product, so just don't make a problem for William be with Katie now, aside maybe Leia, no marriage plot or elder law. They are just people that can and will - if player chosse to- fuck each other maybe it will bring more change down the line but I would say it will make the story work better.Have you finished it already or nah??? I wanna know what you thought. Already know Bob loved this shitshow for some reason
That's the kind of inconsistencies that happens when you rework your story multiple times and add new elements out of nowhere.
No matters what the situation is ( in the middle of a conversation, in a changing room, in a drinking game at night, hiding in a public toilet...) In Oceanverse, there's never a single inappropriate situation to show your Yoga skillsView attachment 5018162
Also, who the hell does yoga in high heels? Ocean's porn brain is too lost in the paint sometimes.
Maviarab is probably tired of the number of times I called out "Ocean Lewd Bait."View attachment 5018162
Also, who the hell does yoga in high heels? Ocean's porn brain is too lost in the paint sometimes.
EDIT: And now they're starting a porn business. Goddamn.
Now that you mention it....No matters what the situation is ( in the middle of a conversation, in a changing room, in a drinking game at night, hiding in a public toilet...) In Oceanverse, there's never a single inappropriate situation to show your Yoga skills
Totally. I've just gotten used to it as an "Oceanism" now. But some of the details, like wearing the high-heels in yoga, will still stick out and hit me with the "wtf actually is this" reaction.
Did you have all of those ready to go as evidence? That's a huge commit and I'm jealous. I always joke that Oceanverse women are ready to break out in interpretative dance at any moment.No matters what the situation is ( in the middle of a conversation, in a changing room, in a drinking game at night, hiding in a public toilet...) In Oceanverse, there's never a single inappropriate situation to show your Yoga skills
Would it be too blatant to ask for the relationship between the twins and Zanes to be reconsidered, so that they are at least distant relatives? To me, it seems that the "family" dynamics in the first three parts of the game would make more sense this way, and would generally have a more positive impact on the narrative. From what I've read in this thread about the plot of Part 4, there is no reason for MC to return "home" under the current circumstances. On the contrary, if I were him, I would take my girlfriend and sister and move to another continent, as far away as possible from that mafia cesspool he calls "home". Therefore, there must be a connection between MC and the Zanes that justifies his return.I can't deny that rewriting parts of chapter 4 to accommodate William and Leia beings twins is a challenge, but given enough time, I think I'm up to the challenge. Here's my vision for it: William and Leia are the same family, taken in by the Zanes when their parents were murdered (that part doesn't change). But the reason for William bailing years ago is still because of the relationship with Leia, but not because of some "mob family" bullshit rule, just because...they're siblings...and because of "family" pressure. The forced mariage rules becomes a way to try and break that relationship at its roots, to distance Leia from William. So the whole mafia stuff will be there to stay, sorry if that still hurts your trying to make sense of it all
On a sidenote, I do believe that's what Ocean had envisioned himself at some point, when he said that only Leia and William would be related. When you have a closer look at the script and dialogues you do realize that stuff was probably the last to go in his numerous changes to family dynamics.
Kat has a top in the back half of chapter 4 that has a wardrobe malfunction every other render or so because "her nipples act like hooks."Totally. I've just gotten used to it as an "Oceanism" now. But some of the details, like wearing the high-heels in yoga, will still stick out and hit me with the "wtf actually is this" reaction.
