VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[alain8891]

Ewwww...yeah you can keep Jabba the Mute. I'll bang the human beings
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It's not that I disagree with you but let's be real. I don't want to speak for anyone but myself but it's already pretty much impossible to buy this ludicrous story as is. What harm could the mod do? At least with the mod I can make some sense of their relationships.

To each their own but I can make sense of the incest crap. I cannot, hard as I may try, make sense of William coming back to the strangers that were involved in his family's death and raised him to be an asset. Who try to tell people who they can and cannot marry. Who try to control who can sleep with who. Who have some kind of mythical incomprehensible rules and apparently no way to enforce them. What are they gonna do? Exile William? Oh no the horror! He can go back to his normal life away from the filthy criminal degenerate scum that is his "family".

If you put away the mafia garbage you can still make some sense of this story.

I can't deny that rewriting parts of chapter 4 to accommodate William and Leia beings twins is a challenge, but given enough time, I think I'm up to the challenge. Here's my vision for it: William and Leia are the same family, taken in by the Zanes when their parents were murdered (that part doesn't change). But the reason for William bailing years ago is still because of the relationship with Leia, but not because of some "mob family" bullshit rule, just because...they're siblings...and because of "family" pressure. The forced mariage rules becomes a way to try and break that relationship at its roots, to distance Leia from William. So the whole mafia stuff will be there to stay, sorry if that still hurts your trying to make sense of it all

On a sidenote, I do believe that's what Ocean had envisioned himself at some point, when he said that only Leia and William would be related. When you have a closer look at the script and dialogues you do realize that stuff was probably the last to go in his numerous changes to family dynamics.

 

[Kingterson]

This game is a joke. It's been out how long and there no real sexual content past the girlfriend. Waste of time downloading this junk.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

What's funny to me is that he removed incest like they're already fucking and having threesomes and kinky shit with the whole family, lol. While in fact there's nothing. And by the time there will be anything, Patreon will be talked about like Myspace and we'll be playing games using neurochips.

 

[RNasc4444]

I can't deny that rewriting parts of chapter 4 to accommodate William and Leia beings twins is a challenge, but given enough time, I think I'm up to the challenge. Here's my vision for it: William and Leia are the same family, taken in by the Zanes when their parents were murdered (that part doesn't change). But the reason for William bailing years ago is still because of the relationship with Leia, but not because of some "mob family" bullshit rule, just because...they're siblings...and because of "family" pressure. The forced mariage rules becomes a way to try and break that relationship at its roots, to distance Leia from William. So the whole mafia stuff will be there to stay, sorry if that still hurts your trying to make sense of it all

On a sidenote, I do believe that's what Ocean had envisioned himself at some point, when he said that only Leia and William would be related. When you have a closer look at the script and dialogues you do realize that stuff was probably the last to go in his numerous changes to family dynamics.

Nah that makes sense. And certainly much more sense than the current plot.

But I still feel like you should reconsider taking on this endeavour. I will use your mod if you go through with it but it might take too much of your time for too little payoff. This shitshow is borderline unsalvageable at this point, imo

 

[jadepaladin]

I can't deny that rewriting parts of chapter 4 to accommodate William and Leia beings twins is a challenge, but given enough time, I think I'm up to the challenge. Here's my vision for it: William and Leia are the same family, taken in by the Zanes when their parents were murdered (that part doesn't change). But the reason for William bailing years ago is still because of the relationship with Leia, but not because of some "mob family" bullshit rule, just because...they're siblings...and because of "family" pressure. The forced mariage rules becomes a way to try and break that relationship at its roots, to distance Leia from William. So the whole mafia stuff will be there to stay, sorry if that still hurts your trying to make sense of it all

On a sidenote, I do believe that's what Ocean had envisioned himself at some point, when he said that only Leia and William would be related. When you have a closer look at the script and dialogues you do realize that stuff was probably the last to go in his numerous changes to family dynamics.

That seems like a lot of effort which will just increase with each future chapter. It makes enough sense but it comes down to if you want to invest that much into something that isn't gonna pay you much outside of personal satisfaction. Maybe get some residuals going from Ocean.

 

[sorco2003]

Report OP/Game Update/give reason to mods.

I did, but it was not accepted.

 

[dan_roger69]

Ewwww...yeah you can keep Jabba the Mute. I'll bang the human beings
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It's not that I disagree with you but let's be real. I don't want to speak for anyone but myself but it's already pretty much impossible to buy this ludicrous story as is. What harm could the mod do? At least with the mod I can make some sense of their relationships.

To each their own but I can make sense of the incest crap. I cannot, hard as I may try, make sense of William coming back to the strangers that were involved in his family's death and raised him to be an asset. Who try to tell people who they can and cannot marry. Who try to control who can sleep with who. Who have some kind of mythical incomprehensible rules and apparently no way to enforce them. What are they gonna do? Exile William? Oh no the horror! He can go back to his normal life away from the filthy criminal degenerate scum that is his "family".

If you put away the mafia garbage you can still make some sense of this story.

I'm already banging my girlfriend . Women like Helen are also a turn on for me.

 

[alain8891]

That seems like a lot of effort which will just increase with each future chapter. It makes enough sense but it comes down to if you want to invest that much into something that isn't gonna pay you much outside of personal satisfaction. Maybe get some residuals going from Ocean.

Personal satisfaction is a part of my decision-making process on this ;-)
Yeah, I should reach out to Ocean and ask for a cut...I might just send Miru to collect

 

[jadepaladin]

Personal satisfaction is a part of my decision-making process on this ;-)
Yeah, I should reach out to Ocean and ask for a cut...I might just send Miru to collect

I should have had a Miru render ready for this but I've already uninstalled it.

 

[RNasc4444]

I'm already banging my girlfriend . Women like Helen are also a turn on for me.

Again with the reaction limit I was gonna put up a heart in your post!

You know I'm just joking around with the Helen, Dana and Leia shit. Yes I don't find them attractive, but I never mean to shit on anyone else's taste. We all like what we like. I like the skinny bitches with a modest chest size. Sue me!

 

[alain8891]

I like the skinny bitches with a modest chest size. Sue me!

Then what are you doing playing Ocean's games?

 

[link18]

we need the Incest tag removed or a disclaimer in OP

A lof if and maybe, but let us put that aside for the moment. The thing is, even if Ocean removed the incest arc with Willi and Leia, he did not have to rewrite the story with such a heap of BS and boring stupidity! The family drama with the dangers from the outside would still work, if Willi, Leia and Kati were still siblings, only the incest arc removed. A majority of players was with WIAB exactly for this type lost son returning into a dysfunctional, endangered, but loving family.
The new pseudo-Mafia soap opera destroys not only the character designs, it is also incredibly boring, dumb and grating. I had to grind my teeth when Willi told Miru in the style of a independence declaration that Leia and him were never morre than roommates.

exactly why i liked it before and to add to that the game in your signature and Intertwind are great examples that you can have hot family members without them being fuckable by Mc

 

[sorco2003]

What's funny to me is that he removed incest like they're already fucking and having threesomes and kinky shit with the whole family, lol. While in fact there's nothing. And by the time there will be anything, Patreon will be talked about like Myspace and we'll be playing games using neurochips.

With much less content it was banned from patreon.

 

[Maviarab]

thats like one thing ocean didnt fuck up in this update.

Give it time

 

[Julius Kingsley]

With much less content it was banned from patreon.

I still don't understand why the adoption and step sibling stuff is also off limits while it's still thriving on porn sites. This whole thing needs a revolt or something. I don't know how it works, but we need a new platform.

 

[RNasc4444]

Then what are you doing playing Ocean's games?

Well...thanks for that

Hahaha had I known then what I know now I would have never downloaded SG almost 6 years ago

 

[RNasc4444]

Give it time

Have you finished it already or nah??? I wanna know what you thought. Already know Bob loved this shitshow for some reason

 

[link18]

I can't deny that rewriting parts of chapter 4 to accommodate William and Leia beings twins is a challenge, but given enough time, I think I'm up to the challenge. Here's my vision for it: William and Leia are the same family, taken in by the Zanes when their parents were murdered (that part doesn't change). But the reason for William bailing years ago is still because of the relationship with Leia, but not because of some "mob family" bullshit rule, just because...they're siblings...and because of "family" pressure. The forced mariage rules becomes a way to try and break that relationship at its roots, to distance Leia from William. So the whole mafia stuff will be there to stay, sorry if that still hurts your trying to make sense of it all

On a sidenote, I do believe that's what Ocean had envisioned himself at some point, when he said that only Leia and William would be related. When you have a closer look at the script and dialogues you do realize that stuff was probably the last to go in his numerous changes to family dynamics.

That would be great my only advice is to wait at least for the next update Ocean may do somthing to exactly contradict the patch like a back story of Will and Leia parents just to say to the gods in patreon "i swear it wasn't me"

 

[Maviarab]

Have you finished it already or nah??? I wanna know what you thought. Already know Bob loved this shitshow for some reason

 

[Maccabbee]

That would be great my only advice is to wait at least for the next update Ocean may do somthing to exacltly contradict the patch like a back story of Will and Leia parents just to say for the gods in patreon "i swear it wasn't me"

I think it's pretty clear that this will definitely go to their parents backstories. Too much hidden, and too much foreshadowing, demands it.