VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Gumshoe08]

For a guy who supposedly has a plan for 30 chapters or whatever it is and multiple connected games, Ocean sure likes to rewrite over and over again.

You must've missed the memo. It wasn't 30 chapters. He said "30 REWORK"

 

[Maviarab]

how to get the miru and krayt bathroom scene guys? I played it before but I can't acess it on this update.

Don't have sex with Miru
-Propose ideas for an open relationship.
-Call her weirdo.
-Agree to have a threesome.
-suggest Miru to do porn

 

[mommysboiii]

I rejected all the scene with xxx miru, how can acess the krayt bathroom scene with her?

Chapter 1

-Reject blowjob
- ask open relationship
- you are my weirdo
- again open relationship option
Chapter 2
-Reject bathroom gym fuck
- finger her

Chapter3
- accept pool blowjob

Make the rest of the decission in chapters how you like

 

[mommysboiii]

Honestly, one of the many disappointments is the lack of options to make clear the lack of interest towards Leia.
Since I expect the "but she got depressed because of William's abandonment" all very sad but then she decided to become a monster.

I have a thing for dark elves/drows I love psychbitch leia

 

[Beelzel]

where is chapter 4? i downloaded it and it plays only to the end of chapter 3. even in the game folder it only has chapter 1-3 no 4 at all. am i missing something?

 

[bonesjones12]

I know updates come out once every 1000 years, but this games story is peak asf.

 

[Doomyk]

This problem is relatively easily solved by the way the author writes the text. He can squeeze into the game the possibility of renaming one/several characters and use phrases in the spirit of “grew up together”, which is suitable for both neighbors and relatives. In this case, problems are unlikely to arise in dialogue with the administration of the mentioned Steam, for example.. I've heard that canceling cancelers isn't that hard these days. Times are changing quickly.

The problem of regular donations or other bullshit is now even easier to solve. He can create a page here, his own, and collect money through links for content that people would like. Whoever wants - will support. I could have done the same on the former Twitter, which has a lot of adult content.
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On the topic of the game itself. I went through this “new piece” again and realized that even the story itself, the plot, had shifted literally by a couple of days in a year. 1-2 events happened + God forgive me, a couple of scenes like a shower that didn’t carry much meaning. F&ck, this dude spent a YEAR on SOAP and ONE scene.
I suspect he spent 10 months on the video at the end, which has... NOTHING useful AT ALL or at least... I don’t know, content typical of games for adults.

Bro, I'm all for freedom of expression and speech. And I don't like the current situation with plot changes either in Wiab. I'm just saying that what kind of demand can there be from small indie developers when billion-dollar super corporations are on their knees and trembling and afraid to inflict a joke or the wrong plot because someone will find it insult. The comedy genre is at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, and other genres are almost dead.

 

[The Krogan Dude]

After all those years, still just sex scene with Miru and no one else.

 

[O1duvai]

Bro, I'm all for freedom of expression and speech. And I don't like the current situation with plot changes either in Wiab. I'm just saying that what kind of demand can there be from small indie developers when billion-dollar super corporations are on their knees and trembling and afraid to inflict a joke or the wrong plot because someone will find it insult. The comedy genre is at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, and other genres are almost dead.

So, on the contrary, it should encourage little dev's to somehow go beyond the limits. While giant corporations are chewing soap (they seem to have stopped doing this, except for Sony)))0, small developers can provide content that the audience wants and that they will like. This will directly affect income and reviews, and this, in turn, is seen by the platform and... Reflects. I don't think Valve employs idiots.

And I don’t mean immediately rushing to extremes and saturating the game with synthetic drugs and rape (I condemn and, in principle, do not like such content). Even the same incest, in most countries, is NOT prohibited. There are only age limits. All these Twitter clowns, fortunately, have not yet learned how to write laws.

 

[Crashbullet]

After all those years, still just sex scene with Miru and no one else.

Hey, but we got a "new game"

And we're still alive.

 

[Niuul]

The more I think about it the more of a mess the story is going to get since it's treading in to the Mafia scene. Ocean is going to have to whiteboard criminal empires and how each interfamily relationship works and even the law enforcement investigations. If not and you just wing it it's going to quickly become apparent how little forethought went in to it. Not even mentioning relationships with LI that William is going to have to form within said mafia empire shenanigans if this game wants to keep putting the A in AVN.

I don't even want to think about how much rewriting will need to happen in SG because of something that gets added to WiAB down the line. With updates taking as long as they do I'm finding myself less and less excited for the updates. Going to be 20 years before the Oceanverse is done since there's supposedly another game to make as well and that's hilarious to think about.

 

[The Krogan Dude]

The more I think about it the more of a mess the story is going to get since it's treading in to the Mafia scene. Ocean is going to have to whiteboard criminal empires and how each interfamily relationship works and even the law enforcement investigations. If not and you just wing it it's going to quickly become apparent how little forethought went in to it. Not even mentioning relationships with LI that William is going to have to form within said mafia empire shenanigans if this game wants to keep putting the A in AVN.

I don't even want to think about how much rewriting will need to happen in SG because of something that gets added to WiAB down the line.

I can't wait for the reveal that Bella missing dad was a gangster too and that her sister was hurt during a gang war

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I can't wait for the reveal that Bella missing dad was a gangster too and that her sister was hurt during a gang war

I'm willing to stay if Ocean promises me a face to face between Nika and William to avenge our "parents"

N: You killed my father
W: No Nika, I am your father

 

[Miranha157]

I haven't played it yet because I don't have time. Did Will deflower Leia in this update?

 

[LHDLLB]

Almost forgot to reply to this: I also like it. It's not the same but it has better internal logic than other compromises migh have resulted in. I think it lays a great foundation for an adult crime series where the focus is not the sex even though there is sex.

I mean, keeping the old story, once Willi and Leia are twins, what drama's left to uncover? the crime plot line. We'll the IC stuff is over and done, lets get on with the crime drama I guess? Works for me. The IC thing can't last 28 chapters or whatever it is without feeling forced, ar ortificially drawn out. This, action drives forward. Willi being chaotic, the chess references etc.



Maybe not in th next 2-3 years, but over the life time of the development, Steam anf GOG are bound to change.



Katie is adorable in the update. But I'm also suprised by how much more I appreciated Miru in this update. And Leia's not someone I'm interested in, but damn her character went leaps and bounds into cooler territory. Zoey also surprised me, especially when Willi gets the chance to lick her pussy. Dana's great too - I also like that Zoey gives Willi crap for dry humping her.



Yes, I still like what I'm playing even though it's different. It's been a while I treated it as a new thing.



I think more as a hyphenated name.



Out of reacts but again, pretty much nailed what I'm feeling too. There's a LOT of potential for this toactually simplify the plot transitions to SG in my opinion, and it's become much more of a unified concept.

I do get the disapointment of subs who subbed purely for the nudge nudge wink wink side of things, but the world is getting more regulated, not less.

Also, Ocean as a dev, as he gets older, will he want to be known as the dev of IC games to his family? People forget that devs have real lives. It's not just anonymous internet things. Ocean might have rethought the personal consequences of the story he's been writing, not just the headaches of finding ways to keep subs on platforms, but the real issue of the sideways glances at his family meets.

Games/AVNs aren't all there is in life.

Too be completely honest, Is a better end result than I hoped for. He either had to went full incest or drop it. For what it is now, I think it is the best that it could be. But is crazy the tonal shift that this update has. We got 3 chapters of family drama, of the roles this people played yesrs ago. Their mistakes and shortcomings. I trully thinks we missed something there, not because incest but tbe weight of it all.

That said I liked the new direction to the stoty but you can feel the shift in this update and that is something that I will take a time to adjust too.

 

[Crashbullet]

I haven't played it yet because I don't have time. Did Will deflower Leia in this update?

Come back in a couple of years.

 

[Niuul]

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I'm willing to stay if Ocean promises me a face to face between Nika and William to avenge our "parents"

N: You killed my father
W: No Nika, I am your father

Or you could play the "My name is Nika Cyrus, you killed my father. Prepare to die."

 

[mammonite]

boring , so much yapping.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Too be completely honest, Is a better end result than I hoped for. He either had to went full incest or drop it. For what it is now, I think it is the best that it could be. But is crazy the tonal shift that this update has. We got 3 chapters of family drama, of the roles this people played yesrs ago. Their mistakes and shortcomings. I trully things we missed something there, not because incest but tbe weight of it all.

That said I liked the new direction to the stoty but you can feel the shift in this update and that is something that I will take a time to adjust too.

Yeah agreed. I think it'll settle into place around the next update. Ocean'll focus on getting SG out now, and making sure it's consistent with WiaB, then we move forward, he'll polish WiaB while it's in Early Access.

 

[UncleFappy]

Or you could play the "My name is Nika Cyrus, you killed my father. Prepare to die."

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Nika needs to reaaaaaaally spend time in Ayua's dojo for that first. And then maybe get some cybernetic enhancements. With his genetics, William 20 years later is probably jacked like Ronnie Coleman, but he's also got decades of ninja training. He's gonna be like Oliver from Baki.