VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Niuul]

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I'm willing to stay if Ocean promises me a face to face between Nika and William to avenge our "parents"

N: You killed my father
W: No Nika, I am your father

Or you could play the "My name is Nika Cyrus, you killed my father. Prepare to die."

 

[mammonite]

boring , so much yapping.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Too be completely honest, Is a better end result than I hoped for. He either had to went full incest or drop it. For what it is now, I think it is the best that it could be. But is crazy the tonal shift that this update has. We got 3 chapters of family drama, of the roles this people played yesrs ago. Their mistakes and shortcomings. I trully things we missed something there, not because incest but tbe weight of it all.

That said I liked the new direction to the stoty but you can feel the shift in this update and that is something that I will take a time to adjust too.

Yeah agreed. I think it'll settle into place around the next update. Ocean'll focus on getting SG out now, and making sure it's consistent with WiaB, then we move forward, he'll polish WiaB while it's in Early Access.

 

[UncleFappy]

Or you could play the "My name is Nika Cyrus, you killed my father. Prepare to die."

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Nika needs to reaaaaaaally spend time in Ayua's dojo for that first. And then maybe get some cybernetic enhancements. With his genetics, William 20 years later is probably jacked like Ronnie Coleman, but he's also got decades of ninja training. He's gonna be like Oliver from Baki.

 

[Maccabbee]

It was a simple and understandable core, Willy did something "universally" seen as wrong and when he risked being discovered as an immature teenager he ran away. Now we have an "uncle" Giuseppe who at the same time wants to use them as pawns for alliances with the Zane and does not consider them Zane

That's not accurate at all. The ZANES wanted to marry the kids off for political reasons (at least, at first). Uncle Giuseppe is one of the three judges in their alliance with other families, they resolve disputes and punish rulebreakers that effect the alliance (think the Five Families in NY, they're different families, but there are rules that govern their interactions, and meetings to discuss disputes).

 

[klou]

Chapter 1

-Reject blowjob
- ask open relationship
- you are my weirdo
- again open relationship option
Chapter 2
-Reject bathroom gym fuck
- finger her

Chapter3
- accept pool blowjob

Make the rest of the decission in chapters how you like

tnx bro

 

[Crashbullet]

That's not accurate at all. The ZANES wanted to marry the kids off for political reasons (at least, at first). Uncle Giuseppe is one of the three judges in their alliance with other families, they resolve disputes and punish rulebreakers that effect the alliance (think the Five Families in NY, they're different families, but there are rules that govern their interactions, and meetings to discuss disputes).

There was a "commission" and it was just engaged in resolving disputes and wars, wars are bad for business, and they didn't decide who would marry whom, and then we got the mediocre version of GoT, but even there the family decided with whom to marry, you see, he even wrote nonsense in this that we need to accept.

 

[LHDLLB]

Yeah agreed. I think it'll settle into place around the next update. Ocean'll focus on getting SG out now, and making sure it's consistent with WiaB, then we move forward, he'll polish WiaB while it's in Early Access.

I think he really need tk ajust early scenes. Make William more suspicious of Dylan and Helen, make them more distant. The tone difference is huge and is my only complain about the how the solver the issue, is really better than I hoped for. But just drop it all, don't make references to Helen as a mother or something like that. Make their relationship one born of necessity and practicality not love , and tone down Katie bully, she can't have be bullied as hard if she was the blood child. Still there is a couple of plot holes but much less than if he have tryed have is cake and eat it too. I loved the William mirror scene, but I hope that his shame over Leia also os tonned down. All in all. Good update.

 

[Doomyk]

That's not accurate at all. The ZANES wanted to marry the kids off for political reasons (at least, at first). Uncle Giuseppe is one of the three judges in their alliance with other families, they resolve disputes and punish rulebreakers that effect the alliance (think the Five Families in NY, they're different families, but there are rules that govern their interactions, and meetings to discuss disputes).

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

 

[mommysboiii]

I understand what you're saying, but I only half agree with you. I also don't like these streamers (either right or left). One side hides behind people of color, gays, etc. as a shield to hide their failures, and the other side sees only this as a red rag to a bull, not noticing the real problem - censorship and political correctness. And I know very well how exactly the censorship of Patreon began, when Trump was in his first term in office and the Republicans passed another law. But the other side is no better with its political correctness. And in the end, we have that ordinary people suffer from censorship from both sides.

Hell yeah brother

We COOMERS need to stick together like a swarm and get our creativ freedom

The COOMER alliance

Fap bros and sisters unite

 

[Crashbullet]

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

Of course it will, do you know why Ayua became Zane? Dylan made a bibi to Miru

 

[Maccabbee]

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

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[twotonepatrone]

Another Zane Family?! The plot thickens.

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[BobTheDuck]

I think he really need tk ajust early scenes. Make William more suspicious of Dylan and Helen, make them more distant. The tone difference is huge and is my only complain about the how the solver the issue, is really better than I hoped for. But just drop it all, don't make references to Helen as a mother or something like that. Make their relationship one born of necessity and practicality not love , and tone down Katie bully, she can't have be bullied as hard if she was the blood child. Still there is a couple of plot holes but much less than if he have tryed have is cake and eat it too. I loved the William mirror scene, but I hope that his shame over Leia also os tonned down. All in all. Good update.

I'm sure it will happen as he builds the next couple of chapters, then a final continuity polish at the end of season one. I think right now, he's just been focusing on getting the story clearly away from the danger territory. My guess is he'll extend the changes to SG S1 with pure script rewrites for simple changes, because there won't need to be many, if at all, but he might simply for clarity, then make sure of all the changes in S2Ch1, then go back and polish Ch1-4 WiaB while doing Ch5.

I think I'm enjoy this a lot more, I like this kind of tension more than the way it was before.

I wonder if this will be part of the plot in the future, namely the family's attempt to somehow force William into a marriage of convenience and somehow set him and Miru apart?

That seems legit to me, not to set him and Miru apart so much as neutralise his potential chaos. At the moment the Zanes don't have any family to accuse of the interference, and Leia's the one who will get the family and the Asanos in trouble. So by Willi returning he's now in a precarious situation where he has to face judgment... but who got Leia to call William back? Emilio and Riri. What's their stake? And who is the mole the fed's have at Leia's? Riri or Emilio spring to mind. But it could be any of the girls, that would be easiest.

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They're the ones Kata mentions at the farm in ch3

 

[UncleFappy]

My god. What happened to Emilio that he went from this to super gay slay queen barber in SG. I figured he'd be dolled up here in WiaB, too. Its like he had a mid-life crisis after WiaB and decided to glam the fuck up.

 

[mommysboiii]

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My god. What happened to Emilio that he went from this to super gay slay queen barber in SG. I figured he'd be dolled up here in WiaB, too. Its like he had a mid-life crisis after WiaB and decided to glam the fuck up.

Prob pissed off queen leia

leia strap on

 

[jadepaladin]

Are we allowed to categorize this as slop now? Gourmet slop because visually it is stunning but the writing is on the level of most of the garbage you see in F95.

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[Doomyk]

Prob pissed off queen leia

leia strap on

With each new update, I wonder more and more whether she will be able to stay in power and not get stabbed in the back, with her attitude towards people. William and the rest of the family do not count, they are more or less equal. But look at her disgusting attitude towards her subordinates (the same scene in the glory hole).

 

[gestved]

Honestly, one of the many disappointments is the lack of options to make clear the lack of interest towards Leia.
Since I expect the "but she got depressed because of William's abandonment" all very sad but then she decided to become a monster.

I didn't play but Leia seems to be central to the story, you won't be able to avoid a core character, and the sexual dynamic is obviously a driving force too for the plot (it's a porn game). Writing an entire route without her just because people don't like her seems like a lot of work for little benefit, this only works if her relationship with MC has no impact in the others, and I don't think that's the case.

Sorry if the assumption is wrong, it's what I gathered from your comment and what I have played previously. Won't be able to play for now, not until some hero updates the patch.

 

[Maccabbee]

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They talked about Jennifer and Tony briefly in the old non-steam version too, so this is planned. Dylan has a fucked up family.