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RNasc4444

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I haven't read his logs consistently, so I don't know why Ocean made this change, honestly I wanna know.
Seems like a pretty big deal to have William as a Zane, then suddenly give him no connections like Nika
Incest is the reason. He heavily sanitized both games to make them more mainstream. No publishing platform loves incest so he had to do away with it all.

From what I've seen (which is not a lot) this looks like Sharknado levels of stupid. Dude is combining Mafia storylines with 16 and 17th century notions of arranged marriages and shit. It's bonkers butkinda hilarious at the same time :LOL:
 

byaaahh

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As a staunch defender of Ocean, I just can't get passed this retcon.

He has basically shifted the entire narrative of the entire Oceanverse, changing names which have been established in both WiaB and SG. I will not be surprised if he will have to go back and rework the reworked SG to align the now altered relations.

Imagine constructing half a house, then deciding you need to change the foundation from cement to play-doh...
 
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Already bought the second masterpiece from the author. 5 bucks you do not feel sorry for such a cool and atmospheric and story game with very beautiful characters, which the author makes and tries very hard to add his love to his game, I recommend buying it to all fans of this game!
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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As a staunch defender of Ocean, I just can't get passed this retcon.

He has basically shifted the entire narrative of the entire Oceanverse, changing names which have been established in both WiaB and SG. I will not be surprised if he will have to go back and rework the reworked SG to align the now altered relations.

Imagine constructing half a house, then deciding you need to change the foundation from cement to play-doh...
That's one way of looking at it.

Another way would be you move into a house, realize the basement is full of all kinds of nastiness left over from the old tenant who threw weird sex parties, so you decided to demolish it and build anew.

One's reaction to this game's changes will depend on if that player sees incest themes as cement or play-doh, for me very much the latter.
 
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ianzaracod

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As a staunch defender of Ocean, I just can't get passed this retcon.

He has basically shifted the entire narrative of the entire Oceanverse, changing names which have been established in both WiaB and SG. I will not be surprised if he will have to go back and rework the reworked SG to align the now altered relations.

Imagine constructing half a house, then deciding you need to change the foundation from cement to play-doh...
That is true, the long waiting time for SG and WIAB, honestly I am intrigued with the story, but this change is something I am still trying to make sense with.

I can't imagine those who played all this prior to the reworks, and what they felt when the reworked happened. And now this.
 

byaaahh

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That's one way of looking at it.

Another way would be you move into a house, realize the basement is full of all kinds of nastiness left over from the old tenant who threw weird sex parties, so you decided to demolish it and build anew.

One's reaction to this game's changes will depend on if that player sees incest themes as cement or play-doh, for me very much the latter.
Except it has always been his house...

The incest isn't my issue, I prefer games without.
My issue is the constant retcons. If Will and Leia were Zanes and had no sexual relation, good. Now it's just people who happened to live together.
 
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zandalari

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Still trying to wrap my head around bro having a nervous breakdown about being told on for maybe fucking a girl who lives in the same house. That makes other people so angry and him so conflicted that he has to run away for years and cut all contact until the game has to start. I imagine Will was also shunned in prison for confessing to being into his roommate. The standards are low, but they are there and roomie romances are forbidden.

There's manga called Bleach, Tite Kubo is its author. Kubo is a fantastic artist who thinks up cool shit and draws some SLICK designs but can't write plot to save his life. Ocean is the Kubo of VN's.
 

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RNasc4444

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That's one way of looking at it.

Another way would be you move into a house, realize the basement is full of all kinds of nastiness left over from the old tenant who threw weird sex parties, so you decided to demolish it and build anew.

One's reaction to this game's changes will depend on if that player sees incest themes as cement or play-doh, for me very much the latter.
That's an awful analogy. He didn't move into that house. HE CREATED IT! From scratch. He build it how he wanted with all that nastiness that HE WANTED! He didn't inherit someone elses house. It's always been his and built exactly like he intended it.
 
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