VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[xorihe3734]

I get wanting to sell your game everywhere you can, so censoring the game to do so would be necessary. But changing things that you've already written and which people have become invested in to the extent that no one can easily undo the censorship that is forced on you just doesn't make sense. It would be one thing to write things in an attempt to make patches difficult if the incest wasn't your original intent, but to actively try to prevent people from restoring what was your original intent is asinine.

I'm upset that Ocean wasted my time and I became invested in characters and relationships that I no longer have any interest in, but since I never spent a dime on it, they don't owe me anything. That doesn't change the fact that this move is pure greed and a slap in the face to those that have financially supported them for years. But I guess it will be worth it for them. They'll eventually make more money in the long run AND they get to complain even more about all that increase in funds being taxed and stolen from them. It's a win-win for them.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I believe Ocean's exact phrase was "future proofing."

Not really optimistic about its future though.

The only valid would be if it was against the rule,but isn't the case here so a little bit disappointed.A lot of harem games,romance,but the incest one are dying one by one.

 

[Éama]

The game is supposed to be based on incest,remove it don't make any sense and change the plot.Any reason for his decision?

I wouldn't publish a game on Steam with controversial themes like incest. If they remove you once you are done for good.

 

[Wolfeszorn]

Phew, so he completely bastardized this game...

Can´t say i´m surprised after all this time and all the reworks.

 

[Maviarab]

I wouldn't publish a game on Steam with controversial themes like incest. If they remove you once you are done for good.

Steam didn't remove anything and neither does it have an issue with incest.

Patreon removed him..and 'future proofing' means absolutely no related content that would appear in the cash cow that is SG. That is what he is protecting, along with SubStar also taking Patreons stance of late.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I wouldn't publish a game on Steam with controversial themes like incest. If they remove you once you are done for good.

from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.

 

[Éama]

from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.

I'm only on the sidelines but I have observed how Steam treats developers and believe me, they don't give a shit. If they want incest gone tomorrow it has to be gone the day after or you get removed without a second chance. Nobody in their right mind should publish there with controversial stuff. It's suicide.

 

[Kurogami32]

from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.

there is plenty adult games using incest as a title on steam btw

 

[jadepaladin]

from what some player told me,steam are less strict about incest than patreon.Many incest game using steam,like my bimbo dream.

Steam isn't the issue, subscribestar is. There's information about incest in their TOS. Ocean is concerned they will turn out to be another Patreon.

 

[Kurogami32]

so, we need a hero to revive the plot by using lewd patcher lmao

 

[sorco2003]

I'm only on the sidelines but I have observed how Steam treats developers and believe me, they don't give a shit. If they want incest gone tomorrow it has to be gone the day after or you get removed without a second chance. Nobody in their right mind should publish there with controversial stuff. It's suicide.

That only happens when minors are involved, or when they try to put content in gray areas like saying the characters are 18 years old and in their senior year of high school.

 

[mma456]

How to get this scene with Miru in the cab?
The image is in the game files but can't get the scene despite multiple reruns

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[mommysboiii]

If he ever changes the story back with the incest included I'd buy a copy of it to support.

Dude just use a patch ...

I know its annoying that fictional cheracter gets regulated or double standart with game of thones books and visual novels or that gta 6/videogames/movies dosent has same creativ freedom than books

But he has to do it to make games unless

1.you stop support religious/ old school kind people/fanatics in power ( good luck)
2.Infiltrate the money instetutions( good luck with that)
3.if i talk about point 3 I get in big trouble ...... hi cia/fbi/..

So just wait for a patch

 

[Eleanorduval]

Steam isn't the issue, subscribestar is. There's information about incest in their TOS. Ocean is concerned they will turn out to be another Patreon.

so mod will be only solution for the incest games in the futur?

 

[jadepaladin]

so mod will be only solution in the futur?

Not sure. They literally have different last names now. Any mod would have to do some heavy lifting. If you just replace words, I don't know that the story will make sense. That said, the incest was never the reason I was interested. I'm decidedly less interested overall with how the story is in its current state.

 

[talan12321]

So, what exactly does the Uncensored patch do?

 

[xorihe3734]

Another thing: I could have swore that when Ocean warned about the change in the relationships that would be in this update months ago, they said that William and Leia were still going to be siblings. Am I remembering that wrong?

 

[xorihe3734]

So, what exactly does the Uncensored patch do?

The uncensored patch is for a previous version. Not this new update.

 

[talan12321]

The uncensored patch is for a previous version. Not this new update.

Yea I know that but thanks I was just wondering what it does

I've never used one because I don't know what it does

 

[ad3pk]

I can see what Ocean reached for, we as readers and the current Katie, William, Katarina, etc generation doesn't have a problem with the inc path, which the whole story is based on. But the so called old heads, newly introduced seem to and are still following old traditions. It is even said in the game. Ocean changed the reason William left from inc secret being revealed to breaking a taboo in the so called family.
Ocean addressed it the best way he could. I think after the meeting with the "judges" the story will focus more on other things in motion, gang wars, ZPR formation, Zane empire, etc.
I know this inc story line was NOT the only thing Ocean intended to follow even in the previous version. Other story lines were not even bad, William starting new business ventures, getting more closer to the family, getting close to charactors (Katie, Leia, Katarina, Dana, Zoey, etc). I think Ocean wanted to address and put this inc storyline to rest ASAP. I wish by the next update (in 2030) this would be over and focus more on other things.
Also if you got into the game only due the inc storyline, I am really sorry for you. There was always a plot brewing behind it. And I hope after this we get to see how the current SG Wollust came to be and Ocean gets to say the story he always wanted to.