VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Steam] [Oceanlab]

[Mister Hentai]

Glad I wasn't invested in this game. Sorry for those of you who were or still are.

 

[Adhdclassic]

That was SG blueballs coming through the house, Helen got the biggest one to the face.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

There was also a comment (maybe a few) somewhere in this thread that someone else might have originally written the incest parts with WiAB, how true that is, no clue.

Considering that it hasn't completely eliminated incest from SG it still doesn't seem credible to me.

Every time I play this I can't help but think that with Ocean doing 2 games at the same time and each being a heavy story focused slowburn it's kind of annoying they don't just focus on one game or the other to completion first.

I won't comment on the lack of incest or NTR as I was never bothered by it being there or not being there. But I will say the notreallysudden mafia plot reveal... is certainly a choice and it's going to impact SG most likely as well. Will be interesting to see how well it's done or if a lot of stuff is gonna get handwaved away because "mafia"

 

[Karcosa]

the update is over after the bar scene? im crazy or there was a club scene too and then we should have new content? or i dont have the new content because im using the ch3 incs patch, because i dont see that changelog for sure

 

[Dr.TSoni]

the update is over after the bar scene? im crazy or there was a club scene too and then we should have new content? or i dont have the new content because im using the ch3 incs patch, because i dont see that changelog for sure

I fear that this is the case since the mod is now obsolete

 

[Old Man Al]

Glad I wasn't invested in this game. Sorry for those of you who were or still are.

No need to be sorry, I very much enjoyed the update.

 

[mommysboiii]

Now why he decided to do on Steam to when Steam doesn't care about incest, rape, and blackmail, no clue..

This is just not true...again it dosent matter which website or plattform

There was a game I think it was called rapeday???? Or something like that on steam

trash game and I dont like it but as you can see I am a big defender of creativ freedom in media like videogames,books,movies....

The game was banned than there was a game on steam that all the big streamers played? With the house party??i think it was called houseparty Years agooo....Also banned or was removed 2018for whatever random reason.

Steam is same as other plattforms regulated
So ocean goes the safe route.

Again all things get regulated look at the movie industry there was disgusting movies

which I wanna make were clear I dont like!!!! Serbian film or movie ... total shit movie absolute nobody would publish this movie today but with creativ freedom even a movie that is like that for shock value or whatever reason should be allowed but nobody would go near that landmine but as you can see I am a big avocater for creativ freedom because I love dystopia cyberpunk or dark fantasy storys and if you decides cencorship is okay because you dont like something it will also be used against thinks you like in future...

But ocean just wants be safe for future which I can understand.

So no steam is definitly like other plattforms and onlyfans that someone ask is obviously also regulated...

 

[ad3pk]

No need to be sorry, I very much enjoyed the update.

Right? the incest thing could have been handled a little well, but the rest of the storyline were good and the story progressed. The issue often WiAB has is the amount of content we get compared to the production period.
With so much charectors and storylines the content should be more.

 

[Pinsel3]

Lol, each version of this game has less lewd scenes. By the next update next year, we will have to play from start again, and it wont have any sex in it.

 

[Turret]

This is just not true...again it dosent matter which website or plattform

There was a game I think it was called rapeday???? Or something like that on steam

trash game and I dont like it but as you can see I am a big defender of creativ freedom in media like videogames,books,movies....

The game was banned than there was a game on steam that all the big streamers played? With the house party?? Years agooo....Also banned for whatever random reason.

Steam is same as other plattforms regulated
So ocean goes the safe route.

Again all things get regulated look at the movie industry there was disgusting movies

which I wanna make were clear I dont like!!!! Serbian film or movie ... total shit movie absolute nobody would publish this movie today ... nobody would go near that landmine but as you can see I am a big avocater for creativ freedom because I love dystopia cyberpunk or dark fantasy storys and if you decides cencorship is okay because you dont like something it will also be used against thinks you like in future...

But ocean just wants be safe for future which I can understand.

So no steam is definitly like other plattforms and onlyfans that someone ask is obviously also regulated...

Pardon me, but that is partly bull. Rapeday was banned for very good reasons, which had nothing to do with creative freedom. You choose an extreme here. I am not a fan of some Steam regulations, like geoblocking, but as long as it is part of the bigger story, Steam does not care about a lot of things in the games. And, unlike the s..heads at Patreon, Steam does not care about 18+ patches popping up outisde their hometurf.

 

[Mortarion]

He won't. He abandoned checking this thread, he couldn't handle people criticizing his game and calls people that do so "trolls".

The problem was not the criticism itself, but how it was presented. The tone makes the music...
And when I look at the whine and bitch from the users here, I can understand every Dev who will sooner rather than later leave here.

I've only just arrived in Ch4, so I can't say anything about the mafia stuff and how it was implemented. But since the night visit at the latest, it was clear in which rough direction the game would develop - at least for me. And after the number in the basement of the farm, there was no longer any doubt.
So what's all the moaning about now?

Because now everyone is no longer related to everyone, regardless of shape, colour or taste?
Sorry, there's nothing I could care less about anymore.

 

[devil666rahmn]

This was a sad update! He took more than 1.5 years to make this small update? wtf.

 

[AntiVeraX]

Looking at the shitstorm I can see in the last couple of pages, and the fact that last time I played this was somewhere in 2020 I have to ask...

Do we have an updated incest patch and walkthrough mod for this update, should I wait for it, or nah?

 

[ianzaracod]

Considering that it hasn't completely eliminated incest from SG it still doesn't seem credible to me.


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Katie real pretty, don't matter if its WIAB or SG

 

[Holyx9]

I don't like these changes at all. I understand why he tried to make changes for Patreon, but that has been pulled a long time ago. Ocean no longer has the Patreon chains around his leg and yet he still make drastic changes to the writing. The main core theme of WIAB pre rework and now have been completely changed and it drastically changes the foundation of the story. This one of reason why I feel Ocean is not top tier developer since he literally compromise way to much on his own work.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

The problem was not the criticism itself, but how it was presented. The tone makes the music...
And when I look at the whine and bitch from the users here, I can understand every Dev who will sooner rather than later leave here.

I've only just arrived in Ch4, so I can't say anything about the mafia stuff and how it was implemented. But since the night visit at the latest, it was clear in which rough direction the game would develop - at least for me. And after the number in the basement of the farm, there was no longer any doubt.
So what's all the moaning about now?

Because now everyone is no longer related to everyone, regardless of shape, colour or taste?
Sorry, there's nothing I could care less about anymore.

In my opinion it's not the lack of incest but the lack of coherence. Ocean is not coherent with his new changes
Helen is now the boss of the Zane, but she doesn't act like one and worse she depends on Leia for her safety. Which would make sense if Helen was still the mother figure not related to the mob

A smaller and sillier example is Katie's nipple piercing that appears out of nowhere.

Katie real pretty, don't matter if its WIAB or SG

Fortunately this hasn't changed.

 

[harsha_26]

I think Ocean should start a Visual Arts company. It suits him better than developing a game.

 

[mommysboiii]

GTA6 will come out even before the NTR scenes in WiaB happen

Yeah the biggest game in gamimg history will not get regulated with full investors (that are full of people in congress )and max profit in mind

Sure budy enjoy your nudity and sex scenes in gta 6

I will be suprised if there is any kind of content that is not mild action movie violance

 

[RNasc4444]

True, I wonder too if she is a young Nojiko





This might be the saddest truth I've ever read





Obviously her real name is Miru Riina



Interesting how the Zanes (now officially of Venetian origins) get worse with each new version: first a family that opposes the gangs for this in the crosshairs, then a group of people with contacts with the underworld (especially Leia) and now a "family" *insert godfather theme* led by Donna Helen Zane


Now
let's talk about the things that don't make sense:

William and Leia are "recruited" into the family to be used in possible marriages for alliances, it might be less stupid than someone might think many mafia organizations pass on archaic concepts, rituals and regulations, but it doesn't make sense because when they talk about not wanting Leia in command it's because she's a Pedersoli; Consequently both are never really seen as Zane a possible marriage that isn't Katie's would be worthless

Helen is said several times to be the boss, but depends for her protection on men who must be supplied and sent by Leia. Furthermore, despite the difficult period, the Zane Family should be the strongest in the territory but he and Scarlet are shown plotting to gather some crumbs of power. And Dylan talks about showing weakness by running away???
Still on the subject of Helen, it is now obvious that Helen has left William to rot in prison but now she is willing to wage war (with which men) on the other families if they try to exile him?

Katie being bullied... oh yeah now that the Zanes are family *insert godfather theme* someone bullied a boss' daughter. Not to mention that Dylan loves his daughter enough to have plans in case other families had their sights set on her and didn't make his bullies disappear into a pylon?
This isn't exactly nonsense but it is ironic that part of the rewrite was originally due to Wiab being written with his foot flat on the accelerator, and now Miru gets distracted for 5 seconds and we're already down Katie's throat (not that I'm complaining about it too much).


Speaking of more serious things... seriously Mr. Grimaldi, the 70's porn actor mustache?
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Still out of reactions

I'm just gonna say...I plead the fifth
Best scene in theentire update. Totally worth suffering through all of it just so see her "get rocked".
And on the plus side, now I have a render I can use to reply to Dan_Roger69

 

[mommysboiii]

Considering that it hasn't completely eliminated incest from SG it still doesn't seem credible to me.


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The only problem that I have with the mafia plot is that if he has to make sure to look out for all kind of rules how he makes the antagonist work?

Like blackmail bad? Drugs big no no? Sexual assault big no no ? Kidnapp big no no?

all the stuff that is big Grey zone is in that teretory

Its a little bit how mindcontrol kink is fucked because it goes against consent so how they dooge this ?

I mean what kind cartel or mafia will work this way