VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

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jamdan

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Ep 17 June 2
Ep 16 Dec 29
Ep 15 Nov 1
Ep 14 Aug 25
Ep 13 Jul 7
Ep 12 May 12

These are the rough dates for the previous several releases, as far as I can tell. (thread searched and looked at compressed/android ports and that sort of thing)

Difference between Ep 17 and Today = 107 days
Difference between Ep 16 and 17 = 156 days
Difference between Ep 15 and 16 = 58 days
Difference between Ep 14 and Ep 15 = 68 days
Difference between Ep 13 and Ep 14 = 49 days
Difference between Ep 12 and 13 = 57 days


So, this update is definitely taking longer than usual, but before the last two updates they were fairly consistently in the ~50 day per update range. Hopefully whenever the team issues get sorted out, it'll return to that. I think it'll be out quicker than Ep 17 was though.
 
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jamdan said:
Ep 17 June 2
Ep 16 Dec 29
Ep 15 Nov 1
Ep 14 Aug 25
Ep 13 Jul 7
Ep 12 May 12

These are the rough dates for the previous several releases, as far as I can tell. (thread searched and looked at compressed/android ports and that sort of thing)

Difference between Ep 17 and Today = 107 days
Difference between Ep 16 and 17 = 156 days
Difference between Ep 15 and 16 = 58 days
Difference between Ep 14 and Ep 15 = 68 days
Difference between Ep 13 and Ep 14 = 49 days
Difference between Ep 12 and 13 = 57 days


So, this update is definitely taking longer than usual, but before the last two updates they were fairly consistently in the ~50 day per update range. Hopefully whenever the team issues get sorted out, it'll return to that. I think it'll be out quicker than Ep 17 was though.
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The Problem is that you have a lot of decisions and thats why you have a lot of branches ... every branch need text and perhaps new render/animations so it is normal that the update takes longer with more story/decisions in game
 
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I couldn't disagree with you more about Katie. Yes, not much as events has happened with her, BUT her emotional and social growth has been really incredible. Keep in mind we are talking about few days in the game. Everything has happened in less than a week. Katie went from a hard-shell bitch who never ever experience real love and used to stay though nomatter what, to a girl who finally managed to say "i love you" to someone; a girl who for the first time explores her feminine side. That is HUGE and if you can really appreciate it, she is your girl.

Also a while back we made a choice - either tell her to try and change herself into a "better" or more properly - politically correct, fake, nice, refined person or keep her flamboyant temper. I love that rough, raunchy, dirty, speak-what-u-think personality. For a woman it's extremely rare and as i said it before, that's where 99% of Katie's charm comes from. Yes she's still scared of addressing her feelings and sharing them, but again - it's been only few days since she started experiencing all that. She still can't trust the MC 100% because everything is simultaneously very new to her and happening very fast.

And lastly - if you've got to known her well, you'd notice that the more nervous she is, the more she resorts to the jokes. And the fact she's constantly nervous around the MC and afraid of her feelings more than she was in the beginning is the perfect sign for her development and this of her emotions.

In my eyes, Katie doesn't need refinement or other sort of change, she just needs appreciation for her uniqueness.
 
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Dave Heiser

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Love the humor in this game.... hope it continues, story seems to be slowly coming to the end, but could do with a good conclusion
 
Cigar-Ferras

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Dave Heiser said:
Love the humor in this game.... hope it continues, story seems to be slowly coming to the end, but could do with a good conclusion
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I think the aim is about 25 Episodes, more if needed but round about there. And since we're only coming to Episode 18 - Plenty of time for lots more shenanigans to occur and for the proverbial shit to hit the fan! Good times!
 
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DEVS,
Thanks for a great game. I finished last night and looking forward to Chapter 18 and story progression as other chapters become available.
*Two thumbs up!
 
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Alfred the Fallen

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Boracle said:
Katie went from a hard-shell bitch who never ever experience real love and used to stay though nomatter what, to a girl who finally managed to say "i love you" to someone; a girl who for the first time explores her feminine side. That is HUGE and if you can really appreciate it, she is your girl.
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Jenna went from a reclusive nerd who had never experienced real love, and used to stay in her room no matter what, to a girl who finally managed to say "I love you" to someone; a girl who for the first time explores her feminine side instead of hiding under layers of baggy clothes. That is HUGE and if you can really appreciate it, she is your girl.

That there is why I wasn't talking about Katie's romance with the main character, because not only is it optional, it's not particularly unique to Katie. The big difference between sisters is that Jenna still has a huge role in the story where she tries to help solve the mystery while Katie doesn't.

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Also a while back we made a choice - either tell her to try and change herself into a "better" or more properly - politically correct, fake, nice, refined person or keep her flamboyant temper. I love that rough, raunchy, dirty, speak-what-u-think personality. For a woman it's extremely rare and as i said it before, that's where 99% of Katie's charm comes from.
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That's simply not true. Katie asks "Do you wish I was more... elegant? Less boyish and vulgar?" and the most extreme choice in the game is labelled "Maybe a little". Choosing that has him say that he would like her to "Maybe try to tone it down just a little". Which is entirely reasonable. They're out in a fancy restaurant, that ain't the time to be swearing like a sailor. She even said that she wanted to stop with the jokes have a classy date herself!

I wasn't objecting to her flamboyant temper. I wasn't wanting her to change into a "politically correct, fake, nice, refined person". I wanted the old Katie back. The one who did have a modicum of self control. The one who wasn't a one dimensional joke bot who keeps making the same childish jokes over and over until they have lost their charm and become annoying.

Katie was my favourite character for most of the game. I liked the way that they joked in private, and I even called it endearing in the previous post. I don't want her to stop swearing or stop joking entirely. I just want it toned back down to what she was originally because I don't like how that one aspect of her character has been blown out of proportion. If 99% of a character's charm comes from one single trait (as you say it does), then that is a one dimensional character. Which is exactly what I'm saying that she's been turned into.


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And lastly - if you've got to known her well, you'd notice that the more nervous she is, the more she resorts to the jokes.
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That was not how she was originally written.

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Katie went from someone who told crass jokes in private when happy and comfortable, to someone who also told those jokes as a self-defence mechanism when things got personal, to someone who constantly tells crude jokes even after saying that they don't want to tell them during a fancy dinner date. It's gone way too far, to the point where the jokes are annoying instead of endearing. It has completely changed the tone of those scenes when she does tell jokes, since she now does them when uncomfortable instead of only when comfortable. And the rest of her character traits have been neglected for too long.
 
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Hi All,

Just wanted to let you know that we are still on for an episode 18 release this month. The episode continues to grow as we finish scenes.

As mentioned previously, we want to get back into more regular (smaller) updates. So Episode 18 should be the last of the "extra large" episodes. It has already become a beast And even with that, w e're probably not going to fit in every scene that we had planned. Otherwise the episode will just keep growing and growing (with more edits / tweaks / error-checking to complete).

So we're going to keep going until month end and then release a large episode based on everything that we have completed. And we'll ensure it has a natural end-point, rather than an abrupt cut.

And then we hope to stretch ourselves to release Episode 19 next month with all the items that we can't fit into Episode 18 (plus a little more) just to stress test if we can get back to quick turn-arounds with our new team dynamic.

For Ep18, the Monica scene on it's own is bigger than some of our earlier whole episodes. This scene has been a work in progress since February and when it boiled down to it, we didn't have the heart to trim it down based on the amount of time / effort that four of us spent on it. If you're a Monica fan, you're going to love it!

If you're not, then I apologise in advance (because it's a monster). But I recommend you partake in the non-romance option as there will be some insights in a particular part of the scene.

We've hit a bit of a snag in the Zarah scene as it got passed form one artist to another but we're looking at options to rectify this to ensure the artwork matches up between artists. But either way, it should be finished this week.

The Theresa scene is also almost completed and we think it will be popular.

And some of the Katie / Debbie / Lily date scenes are almost done too.

Will make a call on whether the beach house scene comes out with Episode 18 this month or pushed to episode 19 next month. We have a lot of work completed already (including 150 + images) but we want to do it justice so will make a call on which episode that will fit into in the next few days....

As usual, please post any questions or inputs in the comments below or via DMs.

So summary:

Episode 18 (extra large episode) in September
And going to push for Episode 19 (smaller episode) in October

Thanks,

CG
 
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Same... I wish the game had a skip button so I can quickly redo some of the more questionable manwhore choices I made. What can I say, sometimes it's just hard to say no!
 
acewinz

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snowbaron lagombi said:
Same... I wish the game had a skip button so I can quickly redo some of the more questionable manwhore choices I made. What can I say, sometimes it's just hard to say no!
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You could use the quick start we added in the last update. You can start at any chapter, set relationships, and major choices.
 
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