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And if you go off the final hint from Gregg, then it ain't Bella, it's Jenna or Jolina and/or if not them, they got the mystery person the information (which is just as bad).
Why not? Bella was around the house and my MC has told her the will conditions. She also had access to the father and to her sister's files.

Jenna and Jolina require more of a stretch than Bella. After all, Bella certainly knew the MC's father while for Jenna and Jolina we don't know so. Also... Jenna? Nah. Jolina? She puts effort in the relatioship with the MC while she's also willing to break up.


the clues are all intentionally interpretable in several ways, the actions are not, those are worth more.
More or less that. I admit that it could well be that Bella is NOT the secret 3rd person, but as hell she banks on the MC getting the money and spending it with her and sabotaging her competitors.
She may not be THAT gold-digger, but she is a gold digger.
 

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Not really. What hints do you think those are? Seeing/hearing what you want. There are hints everywhere that point to multiple people. And if you go off the final hint from Gregg, then it ain't Bella, it's Jenna or Jolina and/or if not them, they got the mystery person the information (which is just as bad).

However, as ace has pointed out, depending on who it is...double the cash for the sexy babe of your dreams you're already infactuated with. Who cares as long as said person isn't actively working against you. I'd personally ignore anything daddy dearest said about them as don't trust a word out of his mouth, dead or alive.
Could be Jolina. Maybe she was using Bella (we still do not know the full story of Bella and Jolina's relationship), and is now using Jenna to progress her plan.
How many of the girls know about the father's death and the will? Depending on who the third will participant is, she may have a hard time explaining why she did not tell you (unless not telling MC before the will reading is one of her conditions).
 

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Why not? Bella was around the house and my MC has told her the will conditions. She also had access to the father and to her sister's files.

Jenna and Jolina require more of a stretch than Bella. After all, Bella certainly knew the MC's father while for Jenna and Jolina we don't know so. Also... Jenna? Nah. Jolina? She puts effort in the relatioship with the MC while she's also willing to break up.




More or less that. I admit that it could well be that Bella is NOT the secret 3rd person, but as hell she banks on the MC getting the money and spending it with her and sabotaging her competitors.
She may not be THAT gold-digger, but she is a gold digger.
with me you break trhough an open door, for me Bella is satan.
I also doubt that she has a reflection in the mirror.
she behaves incredibly manipulative with both MC and her sister.

as she says at lunch with Mc, "but a girl has to think of herself sometimes too"

and in my opinion Bella is thinking of herself even before the death of MC's father

Could be Jolina. Maybe she was using Bella (we still do not know the full story of Bella and Jolina's relationship), and is now using Jenna to progress her plan.
How many of the girls know about the father's death and the will? Depending on who the third will participant is, she may have a hard time explaining why she did not tell you (unless not telling MC before the will reading is one of her conditions).


Jolina as the second gold digger is a great candidate

the fact that she brought MC to Theresa and then Bella describe the possible second gold digger to us just as the religious fanatic stinks a lot ..

and being a computer specialist too, she may have taken Jenna where she wanted, including live sex, the perfect opportunity to appear as a victim and tie MC and Jenna to her.

moreover this could also explain why Elaine wants to avoid Jolina, she could suspect something about the relationship between her and Bella and therefore not get noticed
 
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Why not? Bella was around the house and my MC has told her the will conditions. She also had access to the father and to her sister's files.
How does she hmmmm? Explain to me...please...if you would. Within believability, as she wasn't there often and didn't live there at the time.
Jenna and Jolina require more of a stretch than Bella. After all, Bella certainly knew the MC's father while for Jenna and Jolina we don't know so. Also... Jenna? Nah. Jolina? She puts effort in the relatioship with the MC while she's also willing to break up.
Why more of a stretch? Both expert computer hackers...

Funny how there are more signs pointing to others, yet you single her out....conveniently forgetting the other things.

Wonder why that is?
 
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How does she hmmmm? Explain to me...please...if you would. Within believability, as she wasn't there often and didn't live there at the time.

Why more of a stretch? Both expert computer hackers...

Funny how there are more signs pointing to others, yet you single her out....conveniently forgetting the other things.

Wonder why that is?

I'm confused

for you Jenna and Jolina team up for the inheritance?

so Jenna would be the sister who, according to the prophecy, approached MC but for other reasons?
 

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I'm confused

for you Jenna and Jolina team up for the inheritance?

so Jenna would be the sister who, according to the prophecy, approached MC but for other reasons?
Not saying that at all. Just saying they can/could both easily get access to everyone's terms should they want to.

However you are correct, both could very easily hack the MC's email to send out emails...and send us an email asking to live with Monica. I'll admit, I do like Bella and yes some signs do point to her. Many more signs point to her actually being in love with the MC and being an incredibly insecure person who needs love and validation in her life.

Everyone has a witch hunt out on her for some strange, inexplicable reason they can never actually explain (in facts), while they conveniently ignore/forget all the signs pointing to numerous other women in our life. (fan girl favouritism aside...because..it could/would never be the girl I like the most could it)? I just find the hate she gets amusing with no evidence or facts to back it up with. Plenty of supposition I suppose yes...but that's all it is....for now.
 
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I'll be honest, I actually hadn't considered Jolina. How much of her and her past do we really know other than the sob story she told the MC? She could realistically be the slightly 'older' looking woman who was able to get just enough money from the old man before he died to start up her coffee shop. I also think Elaine and to a lesser extent Bella would be a little too obvious, and while I agree Bella seems a little too aggressive to tie the MC to her, Elaine (love or hate her) hasn't exactly shown to be as obvious a manipulator compared to Bella considering all she wanted from the MC was to apologize.

Since my MC is pursuing a romantic path with her (for the time being), she really wants to take things slow and just... I dunno, can't explain it, but her interactions with the MC strike me as someone wanting to be a friend, is flattered with the flirtation and interest, and slowly allows herself to consider a romantic path with the MC.
 

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I'll be honest, I actually hadn't considered Jolina. How much of her and her past do we really know other than the sob story she told the MC? She could realistically be the slightly 'older' looking woman who was able to get just enough money from the old man before he died to start up her coffee shop. I also think Elaine and to a lesser extent Bella would be a little too obvious, and while I agree Bella seems a little too aggressive to tie the MC to her, Elaine (love or hate her) hasn't exactly shown to be as obvious a manipulator compared to Bella considering all she wanted from the MC was to apologize.

Since my MC is pursuing a romantic path with her (for the time being), she really wants to take things slow and just... I dunno, can't explain it, but her interactions with the MC strike me as someone wanting to be a friend, is flattered with the flirtation and interest, and slowly allows herself to consider a romantic path with the MC.
My issue with Elaine is that, though she was not the MC’s stepmom, she was the closest the MC had to a maternal figure and she spent years being cold, distant, and a bitch. And she was that way up until she heard her will conditions (or around the time where she would have learned her conditions) and then suddenly she decides to do a 180 and be super nice to the MC. On top of which she starts considering a romantic relationship with the MC...

Bella doesn’t exist in the MC’s mind until she suddenly shows up with his stuff at Monica’s house. As I recall there’s no reason for either Elaine or Bella to know where the MC is currently, especially as the MC had been in a hotel up until then... From that point on Bella is constantly trying to be super sweet and ingratiate herself to the MC. Being overly flirtatious and insecure (or “insecure”)...

To me Elaine and Bella seem like they could be a team working two different angles and trying to manipulate the MC. Either way I don’t trust any of the women who are older than Katie. Not even Monica who I just don’t see as being a likely villain.
 

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Maybe it's not one of the women but a decision the main character has to make - do you take the money or the woman?
Where the Heart Is.....money or love
 
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Maybe it's not one of the women but a decision the main character has to make - do you take the money or the woman?
Where the Heart Is.....money or love
Well.... yeah, that's one of his conditions.

If he stays with Monica, Katie or Jenna he loses his share of the money. He needs to move out and cut all contact with those 3 for 10 years to get his share.

There are 2 other women that also have a share of his dads money, Elaine is one we don't know the other.
 

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How does she hmmmm? Explain to me...please...if you would. Within believability, as she wasn't there often and didn't live there at the time.

Why more of a stretch? Both expert computer hackers...

Funny how there are more signs pointing to others, yet you single her out....conveniently forgetting the other things.

Wonder why that is?

Why the irony and sarcasm? I was asking for opinions. But since you asked:

- there's no reason to assume that Jenna or Jolina were even aware of the will before the MC told them.
- Jenna and Jolina are too young to be the gold diggers.
- Jenna worships the MC and she seems genuine.
- Jenna was locked in her shell before the MC so I doubt she was thinking to steal the money.
- Jenna was a virgin.
- Jolina was willing to both work on their relationship and talk issues but she was also ready to break up when the MC invaded her privacy.

- Bella knew that Donald existed.
- Bella knew that a will would exist.
- Bella doesn't mind fucking Elaine's ... whatever MC is, even though she knows Elaine would disagree.
- Bella had access to the house when MC's father was there.
- Bella is Elaine's sister. Elaine may have told her about the will's conditions.
- Bella comes off as non-genuine when it comes to Elaine. I mean, she showed up to support her and ... she goes for the MC instead of focusing to help her sister. She also takes the MC's side quite fast.
- The lawyer described the gold digger as cold and calculating. Bella comes off as the most cold and calculating based on the above.

Could J & J be playing the MC? Yes. Should we trust what the fuck the MC's father says is in the will? With a grain of salt. Could the party that is aware of all the condicions be Elaine instead? Yeap. In the end, should we trust the lawyer? Perhaps not. Perhaps there's something in there for him too.
Also Bella is a bit obvious. Could be a red herring.
But to say there are more things pointing towards their direction instead of Bella is false.

If Bella wins the money, I bet she will either throw the MC out or keep him as her kept man depending on their relationship.
If Elaine wins the money, I think she will show some support to the MC even if they're not dating as long as he didn't mess up with her. If they're dating she will probably keep him around.
 

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Why the irony and sarcasm? I was asking for opinions. But since you asked:

- there's no reason to assume that Jenna or Jolina were even aware of the will before the MC told them.
- Jenna and Jolina are too young to be the gold diggers.
- Jenna worships the MC and she seems genuine.
- Jenna was locked in her shell before the MC so I doubt she was thinking to steal the money.
- Jenna was a virgin.
- Jolina was willing to both work on their relationship and talk issues but she was also ready to break up when the MC invaded her privacy.

- Bella knew that Donald existed.
- Bella knew that a will would exist.
- Bella doesn't mind fucking Elaine's ... whatever MC is, even though she knows Elaine would disagree.
- Bella had access to the house when MC's father was there.
- Bella is Elaine's sister. Elaine may have told her about the will's conditions.
- Bella comes off as non-genuine when it comes to Elaine. I mean, she showed up to support her and ... she goes for the MC instead of focusing to help her sister. She also takes the MC's side quite fast.
- The lawyer described the gold digger as cold and calculating. Bella comes off as the most cold and calculating based on the above.

Could J & J be playing the MC? Yes. Should we trust what the fuck the MC's father says is in the will? With a grain of salt. Could the party that is aware of all the condicions be Elaine instead? Yeap. In the end, should we trust the lawyer? Perhaps not. Perhaps there's something in there for him too.
Also Bella is a bit obvious. Could be a red herring.
But to say there are more things pointing towards their direction instead of Bella is false.

If Bella wins the money, I bet she will either throw the MC out or keep him as her kept man depending on their relationship.
If Elaine wins the money, I think she will show some support to the MC even if they're not dating as long as he didn't mess up with her. If they're dating she will probably keep him around.
Bella and Jolina know each other and are around the same age.

The only people that aren't likely to be the gold diggers are Jenna, Katie, Deb and Lily. They would have been kids when it happened and this doesn't do underage shit so they are ruled out.

Everyone else is fair game.

Angel's story fits the gold diggers, Jolina has the tech know how and is in with Bella, Zarah and Monica are in need of money and Z's surname fits and they are trying to keep the MC at Monica's while Monica knows that will lose him the money.
 

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Bella and Jolina know each other and are around the same age.

The only people that aren't likely to be the gold diggers are Jenna, Katie, Deb and Lily. They would have been kids when it happened and this doesn't do underage shit so they are ruled out.

Everyone else is fair game.

Angel's story fits the gold diggers, Jolina has the tech know how and is in with Bella, Zarah and Monica are in need of money and Z's surname fits and they are trying to keep the MC at Monica's while Monica knows that will lose him the money.
Where was it said Bella and Jolina knew each other? I don't remember that.
 

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Where was it said Bella and Jolina knew each other? I don't remember that.

I think he is referring to the prediction made at the circus.

where there was told about two sisters who introduced you to a blonde who likes women

The blonde likes you too, but she is more attached to a sister

then there are so many clues about Jolina's bisexuality that they almost become an objective fact

Not saying that at all. Just saying they can/could both easily get access to everyone's terms should they want to.

However you are correct, both could very easily hack the MC's email to send out emails...and send us an email asking to live with Monica. I'll admit, I do like Bella and yes some signs do point to her. Many more signs point to her actually being in love with the MC and being an incredibly insecure person who needs love and validation in her life.

Everyone has a witch hunt out on her for some strange, inexplicable reason they can never actually explain (in facts), while they conveniently ignore/forget all the signs pointing to numerous other women in our life. (fan girl favouritism aside...because..it could/would never be the girl I like the most could it)? I just find the hate she gets amusing with no evidence or facts to back it up with. Plenty of supposition I suppose yes...but that's all it is....for now.
I speak for myself of course

it is impossible to speak and take positions without being guided by personal "cheering"

Bella almost immediately gave me negative vibes.
while Lilly despite the question of "dizzy in name and not in fact" I can't even take it into consideration as a hypothesis.

by the way: is "Dizzy" a relatively common nickname? is a word that I had never read and I had to look for it ...
 
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I think he is referring to the prediction made at the circus.

where there was told about two sisters who introduced you to a blonde who likes women

The blonde likes you too, but she is more attached to a sister

then there are so many clues about Jolina's bisexuality that they almost become an objective fact


I speak for myself of course

it is impossible to speak and take positions without being guided by personal "cheering"

Bella almost immediately gave me negative vibes.
while Lilly despite the question of "dizzy in name and not in fact" I can't even take it into consideration as a hypothesis.

by the way: is "Dizzy" a relatively common nickname? is a word that I had never read and I had to look for it ...
That sounds more like it's talking about Debbie to me.
 
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