Hmm, The last time I played the game the story ended at Joline's place just after she busted Jenna and the M/C spying on her while the M/C and her were have some sexy time. I haven't played since and I'm still at the point in the story now when the M/C just got his dad's car. Now I really want to see what's happening with Bella, but yes it feels like if you do not pursue Monica/Zhara you will miss out on Angel. Likewise if you do not pursue Katie you will miss out on Debbie/Lily which are two of my favorites besides Bella. If you do not pursue Jenna then she won't get you into the whole spying hacking side of the game and you miss seemingly important plot info.
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We took a lot of pains to make sure that you didn't miss anything crucial plot wise or even characters by not dating particular girls.
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No, that was the post I wanted to quote after I saw Macinnes quote it because I wanted to point out that, according to acewinz, there will be mini-harems in some of the game's endings.
"Mini-harems" isn't even remotely the same thing that had been referenced, which you know very well...
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Let him have his moment, he's never wrong you know. As for the subject, depending on how exactly we views harems...there will be ONE mini-harem (not harems) and even that is stretching it if we think Katie, Lily and Debbie would actually work out long-term.
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Most you're going to get is Katie, Deb and Lily which has been known since practically the start.
There will probably be a few other pairings but no other big groups.
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I hadn't pursuit either Monica, Zarah or any of the sisters, but i'm almost at full relationship with Angel, Wanda, Debbie e Lily. I'm actually hoping in an ending route where you just say "bye bye" to Monica and her daughters and you just grab the legacy. Maybe with Angel or Wanda, or both. Or Jolie. Or Dogboy. Big twist.
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The release version of Episode 19 made Bella a lot less of a crazy stalker, which was a big improvement. If you believe her dialogue (and presumably the MC would know if she was lying), she did have a somewhat close relationship with him over the years, which makes her lovey-dovey act at least potentially legit. I do agree her paranoia over Elaine is pretty extreme. Unless Elaine really has gone off the deep end and is putting on one hell of an act for the MC, Bella is either jumping at shadows or lying to us.
As far as locking out relationships, I see what you're saying but I can't quite agree; just because you've locked out of a sexual relationship with a character doesn't mean you can't still develop a different sort of relationship with them. It's theoretically possible to become, say, close platonic friends, confidants, mentor/protege, or rivals.
The catch is that it would require spending time and resources creating unique branches for each of the non-sex routes; these being Adult Visual Novels, it's unlikely you'll see a huge return on that particular investment. I'd still prefer it, because I find that sort of attention to detail awesome and because it really can make the different paths genuinely different and engaging, but it would definitely be going over and above the call of duty. (It would also be easier in a game with fewer LIs).
So in a practical sense we're mostly stuck with the option to get a bunch of content by fooling around with a girl or get a tiny portion of the same content by keeping it chaste. Personally, I still prefer the option to get the stripped down chaste routes as long as they still cover the basics.
This game could use a little more work on that front, unfortunately. For example, AFAICT it's impossible to tell Katie about the will conditions unless the MC is sleeping with her; that's sort of a big deal that would just as important to explore on a friend route, and it wouldn't take that much time to add it. But because the opportunity to tell Katie came during her date, it couldn't just be cut and paste into the platonic route.
So it was cut and has been forgotten about since then, which is a shame. (This may happen with Monica too, but I've never tried her route.)
I don't know exactly what's in store for us, but I'd say we're still in the middle game. We've had a lot of teases, but there really hasn't been anything that changes the way the MC has been going about his life. I was hoping the big orgy at the beach house would finally change that, but it seems to have gone out of it's way to avoid that. Even the hints about one the other heiress from the lawyer is limited almost entirely to information we cannot act on (and frankly already suspected).
So yeah, middle game in my book. I'd say were getting to the end of that phase, because there have been a few small details starting to change (like Monica guessing at a relationship with Jenna/Katie, or the end to the long-running Debbie/Lily UST). So hopefully the proper endgame is coming soon, because I'd hate to leave all the resolution until the last minute and wind up cramming it into too small a space.
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Bella continues to remain a largely treacherous character to me. already the combination of red hair and crazy eyes make me smell burning ...
a girl who quits her job and cancels her rent, is a girl who never wants to go back to her previous life (of course the perspective on this would change if it turns out that she is running away from something).
in practice, first you bet Elaine's third, and then that of MC. if her relationship with Jolina and the fact that Jolina is the third heiress were confirmed (I don't think Bella is), in practice Bella has staked the entire estate of Donald.
about relationships instead: for now the only one who reacts badly to a breakup is Katie, Monica is almost heartened, Jenna also seems to have enough reason (to all 3 you can talk about the conditions of the will at some point in the relationship, first Katie, then Jenna and finally Monica)
the only other to whom Mc can explicitly declare himself is Lily (Bella being Satan I don't count her). the others are all manageable for now as adventures in a more or less explicit way
focusing on the Foursome, if Mc is related to all 3, if with Katie we have not yet gone beyond friends with benefits, the only one who could complain is Lily, who could take badly the fact that we have already had sex with Debbie, they both know about Katie, and you may have already told
Debbie of your interest in Lily
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It's the interesting thing about Lily, that the MC and her can have (secretly) declared relationship status (boyfriend and girlfriend), yet she seems to have no problem with hearing Katie declare her feelings for the MC, to hear that she and him have been having sex, and then to give in/succumb to Debbie's feelings for her (even if she still prefers the MC over Debbie). I honestly think that, if Lily were to find out the MC has been with Debbie, she wouldn't care and in fact could be quite thrilled. I think she might like the idea of being in this kind of relationship because not only does she get to be with the MC, but she also gets to do it with her best friends.
I would like to see, if/when this happens again, if there was a bit more action with Katie and Lily. They didn't do anything with each other here and I suppose, given that they both hadn't thought about doing anything with another girl before this that's quite understandable, and it seems like it was Debbie's role to "corrupt" them into enjoying it and (hopefully) wanting more, so maybe they'll get a bit more involved next time. In fact, it could be nice if there was a little something in the next episode, when the MC gets back to the beach house after visiting Wanda and the girls are awake and having breakfast, that as they talk about it, Debbie points out that Katie and Lily are the only ones who didn't kiss each other and that they should do it now, which they will.
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Haha.It's the interesting thing about Lily, that the MC and her can have (secretly) declared relationship status (boyfriend and girlfriend), yet she seems to have no problem with hearing Katie declare her feelings for the MC, to hear that she and him have been having sex, and then to give in/succumb to Debbie's feelings for her (even if she still prefers the MC over Debbie). I honestly think that, if Lily were to find out the MC has been with Debbie, she wouldn't care and in fact could be quite thrilled. I think she might like the idea of being in this kind of relationship because not only does she get to be with the MC, but she also gets to do it with her best friends.
I would like to see, if/when this happens again, if there was a bit more action with Katie and Lily. They didn't do anything with each other here and I suppose, given that they both hadn't thought about doing anything with another girl before this that's quite understandable, and it seems like it was Debbie's role to "corrupt" them into enjoying it and (hopefully) wanting more, so maybe they'll get a bit more involved next time. In fact, it could be nice if there was a little something in the next episode, when the MC gets back to the beach house after visiting Wanda and the girls are awake and having breakfast, that as they talk about it, Debbie points out that Katie and Lily are the only ones who didn't kiss each other and that they should do it now, which they will.
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Lily could still ignore the depth of the relationship between Katie and MC, after all Katie is not very open even with her two friends about her feelings, I think she would hardly forgive MC once she clears up with Katie.It's the interesting thing about Lily, that the MC and her can have (secretly) declared relationship status (boyfriend and girlfriend), yet she seems to have no problem with hearing Katie declare her feelings for the MC, to hear that she and him have been having sex, and then to give in/succumb to Debbie's feelings for her (even if she still prefers the MC over Debbie). I honestly think that, if Lily were to find out the MC has been with Debbie, she wouldn't care and in fact could be quite thrilled. I think she might like the idea of being in this kind of relationship because not only does she get to be with the MC, but she also gets to do it with her best friends.
I would like to see, if/when this happens again, if there was a bit more action with Katie and Lily. They didn't do anything with each other here and I suppose, given that they both hadn't thought about doing anything with another girl before this that's quite understandable, and it seems like it was Debbie's role to "corrupt" them into enjoying it and (hopefully) wanting more, so maybe they'll get a bit more involved next time. In fact, it could be nice if there was a little something in the next episode, when the MC gets back to the beach house after visiting Wanda and the girls are awake and having breakfast, that as they talk about it, Debbie points out that Katie and Lily are the only ones who didn't kiss each other and that they should do it now, which they will.
instead as for Debbie, Lily does what MC tells her to do, if MC advises her to experiment she experiments, but does not seem to change the idea about her sexual orientation.
by the way, when Debbie says she thought about MC while kissing Lily I became a 13 year old girl on her first crush
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