Aye, plot information will likely be forced on us like it was with Jenna.
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Did you ever trust her? She has been trying to throw Elaine under the bus since shortly after she is first introduced in game.
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I would like some advice from those who carry out more routes
Is starting from the 12th chapter a good idea?
it seems to me that previously we are always around the presentations, and that from that point the story begins to take off.
or risk of missing important passages with certain characters?
for now I would like to carry on separately:
Lily
Debbie
Lily + Debbie
Katie
Monica
Is starting from the 12th chapter a good idea?
it seems to me that previously we are always around the presentations, and that from that point the story begins to take off.
or risk of missing important passages with certain characters?
for now I would like to carry on separately:
Lily
Debbie
Lily + Debbie
Katie
Monica
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Can't I believe I forgot about that.
So yeah, that's something, but I still stand by wanting to see a bit more of these two getting it on in another foursome or even threesome scene.
Lily can be still be straight because she prefers the MC, but doesn't mean she can't enjoy having fun with her girl friends, especially Debbie. With the MC, it's love for Lily, with Debbie and Katie, it's fun and probably not much more than that, but doesn't mean she wouldn't want to do it again, and again, and again.Lily could still ignore the depth of the relationship between Katie and MC, after all Katie is not very open even with her two friends about her feelings, I think she would hardly forgive MC once she clears up with Katie.
instead as for Debbie, Lily does what MC tells her to do, if MC advises her to experiment she experiments, but does not seem to change the idea about her sexual orientation.
by the way, when Debbie says she thought about MC while kissing Lily I became a 13 year old girl on her first crush
Debbie's in love with Lily and probably still hopes she can get Lily to fall in love with her, but she seems happy knowing that Lily has at least accepted she has these feelings and that Lily is OK with doing these intimate things with her. Debbie also seems very happy to have the MC as well if you've gone down that route and she did a good job getting Katie's sapphic motor revving.
As for Katie, she'd probably not be best pleased to find out right now that he was having sex with Debbie and Lily before this, but perhaps this night has changed her a little bit. I honestly hope she doesn't go back to being the totally possessive Katie she was before because I think that it would be good character growth for her if she becomes comfortable seeing the MC be intimate with Debbie and Lily because it turns her on and she likes sharing him with her friends. So maybe by making her more and more comfortable as time goes on, it might make her less inclined to rip his head off if she finds out about him & Lily and him & Debbie later on.
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Can't I believe I forgot about that.
So yeah, that's something, but I still stand by wanting to see a bit more of these two getting it on in another foursome or even threesome scene.
Lily can be still be straight because she prefers the MC, but doesn't mean she can't enjoy having fun with her girl friends, especially Debbie. With the MC, it's love for Lily, with Debbie and Katie, it's fun and probably not much more than that, but doesn't mean she wouldn't want to do it again, and again, and again.
Debbie's in love with Lily and probably still hopes she can get Lily to fall in love with her, but she seems happy knowing that Lily has at least accepted she has these feelings and that Lily is OK with doing these intimate things with her. Debbie also seems very happy to have the MC as well if you've gone down that route and she did a good job getting Katie's sapphic motor revving.
As for Katie, she'd probably not be best pleased to find out right now that he was having sex with Debbie and Lily before this, but perhaps this night has changed her a little bit. I honestly hope she doesn't go back to being the totally possessive Katie she was before because I think that it would be good character growth for her if she becomes comfortable seeing the MC be intimate with Debbie and Lily because it turns her on and she likes sharing him with her friends. So maybe by making her more and more comfortable as time goes on, it might make her less inclined to rip his head off if she finds out about him & Lily and him & Debbie later on.
Katie strikes me as a girl whose dominant trait is jealousy, and I don't mind that. she is ready to fight for MC, but I don't think she accepts anything less than 100% of MC's loyalty
I don't think she would like an encore .. she always gives me the idea of who keeps giving you rope waiting for you to hang yourself.
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I think Katie deserves more character growth than that. To have her go through that experience and then to have her come out the other side like, "Well, that was fun, but it's never happening again and if you ever so much as compliment them, [MC], I'll cut your balls off", would just keep Katie standing in place, never moving, never changing, and I think that would be poor character development for her.
The least we could get from her after this is an acknowledgement and acceptance that she enjoyed it, a lot more than she ever thought she would, and that she's open to doing it again. She can even be fine with them kissing him from now on, but only when they're together as a group, and over time perhaps she can change further to be OK with a poly/mini-harem relationship involving all of them. Another foursome or even threesome with her and Debbie or her and Lily would go a long way towards that.
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There are women who identify as lesbian that are happily married/committed to men, as well as women who consider themselves hetero-normative that have relationships with other women.
Love can override sexual identity, at least in some situations.
Love can override sexual identity, at least in some situations.
Actually Katie's dominant trait is abandonment which fuels her jealousy. She admits this early on to the M/C about her fear of abandonment. She told him that every man she looked up to in her life left. Her dad left, the M/C left, etc so she pushes back to keep from getting too close. This is also the source of her abrasiveness which can be fun at first but quickly gets annoying. IMO it makes her too much of a tomboy and less of a lady. That juxtaposition is also what makes her endearing as a character. The times she is vulnerable and fluttering her big brown eyes at you like a little girl melts you in that moment but then she has ruin it with her mouth. She's classier than Wanda but shares the same potty mouth defect.
Oh my I had forgotten about Theresa. I found it amusing that as I read her lines of dialogue I cannot help but hear her in an American Southern Drawl. She could actually have any accent but for some reason that is how I picture her. Just another example of the colorful characters in this game.
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in jealousy there is always the fear of being alone
I probably explained myself badly, when I said it's her dominant trait, I meant it's the most obvious, not the most important
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That's quite a multiverse harem. The Harem Between the Worlds.
Wow exciting update! Nice cliffhanger with the attorney. I mean who shot J.R. right? The 4-way at the beach house was one of the hottest I've seen in a VN. I had to piss off Bella to do it, but it turned out worth it. I could be happy with a Katie/Lily/Debbie ending except for losing the inheritance because of Katie. I mean in RL with $15.8 mil the M/C could have his choice of arm candy/harems like Hef and maybe Katie would still speak to him after 10 years. I'm keen to see what's gonna happen with Katie given the hints dropped about her gaining weight and having weird cravings recently after a few M/C creampies. So now I have a basic total cheating game except for Jolina (I friend with benefits zoned her) I think I'll go back and fast forward through a couple saves with exclusive LI tracks. BTW Until this update I ignored Wanda, but I like where the Dev took her. The insight into her childhood appeals to the psychologist in me. I'm interested to see how she would develop beyond a Dom/Sub relationship (which I don't really care for although in Wanda's case it was amusing for a time).
Now you're making me wanna replay the update with a Katie path to see what you're talking about.
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How to succeed on Elaine guilt path? Overall, do the MC need to be angry with her or do he need to be friendly?
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in chapter 16 (or maybe 15 ...) it is evident in the dialogue choices with Elaine
same sex scenes but with different dialogues
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***Spoilers Follow***
I followed Zoey Raven's WT to get the prereq's for 4-way down. I'd recommend it. I basically started with the party and romanced Debbie and Katie then Lily. I continued that plan through and cheated a bit on Katie but let both Lily and especially Debbie know full disclosure. When playing volleyball at the beach with the girls make sure to set Katies lezbo pts by getting her to kiss Debbie as a punishment for losing at volleyball. When Debbie comes around be sure to cheat with her behind Katie's back and when she asks for help with Lily make sure you let you desire for both of them to be in a relationship with you known. If just help Debbie with Lily it will lock you out from their romantic path. After that Debbie and you will set a plan to get all the girls over to the beach house for a party/sleepover. When that happens Bella (If you are romancing her) will call and ask for a date and come over to the BH. That's where I pissed her off because I had to refuse her and waste half a day (that could've been spent with the girls on the beach) driving Bella home (she took and Uber to the BH). Zoey's WT mentioned something about skipping seeing Lily in the park the day before the party and that being a better path for the 4-way, but I decided to skip seeing Katie at that time and see Debbie and Lily instead. Basically what happens at the party is Debbie outs herself to her besties and then becomes your wingman to rev Katie's Sapphic motors up. Once Debbie becomes instigator Lily joins in egging Katie on and finally Katie goes full tilt swinger sharing you with her girls and even into some girl/girl action. From what I understand there is the possibility of an ending including future fun with all 3 gals romantically. Most likely I could see a Katie-M/C and Lily/Debbie paring where they all get together regularly and swing.
Guess will pass on it then, no interest in group sex. BTW, final version of update lets you send Bella away without doing anything.