- Sep 12, 2018
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or foolishYou are a brave man for stepping in in the middle of this Ace
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You are a brave man for stepping in in the middle of this Ace
Both they go hand in handor foolish
- May 28, 2018
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I was told that he has his hip-waders on in case it gets too deep. I would also suggest a snorkel.You are a brave man for stepping in in the middle of this Ace
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Why don't we all say that just simply EXISTING is abusive and call it a day.
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I bring my own flotation devices.
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- May 28, 2018
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I don't think that it is that simple since it evokes emotion...and we all know that emotions is an incredible thing.
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Dammit! You reminded me of a condom joke I had for the Elaine scene I forgot to throw in... Oh, well.. always next time.
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Ok! *puts on hip waders and a brave/foolish (didn't take much...) expression
I'm on Ava's side regarding Elaine (well duh). I won't go deeper in to the discussion about abuse since I have literally nothing to add to that.
I do think people are being a little harsh on her but as Ace said, we all see things from our own perspective so it's all good. I'm also 99% certain that Elaine is not the villain here and after the cliffhanger i'm even more certain (99.1%). I think she is being set up by Bella/Jo.
Is calling Elaine a cold hearted bitch hardcoded or a choice? I don't remember calling her that since I went the kind route with her from the start. Almost all accusations about how she behaved towards the MC has come from Bella and Elaine herself in my game.
*gets out of these ridiculous rubber pants......
I'm on Ava's side regarding Elaine (well duh). I won't go deeper in to the discussion about abuse since I have literally nothing to add to that.
I do think people are being a little harsh on her but as Ace said, we all see things from our own perspective so it's all good. I'm also 99% certain that Elaine is not the villain here and after the cliffhanger i'm even more certain (99.1%). I think she is being set up by Bella/Jo.
Is calling Elaine a cold hearted bitch hardcoded or a choice? I don't remember calling her that since I went the kind route with her from the start. Almost all accusations about how she behaved towards the MC has come from Bella and Elaine herself in my game.
*gets out of these ridiculous rubber pants......
- Sep 30, 2020
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Supposed to wait until the shit storm is over not take them off before it even begins.
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they chafed......Supposed to wait until the shit storm is over not take them off before it even begins.
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You ain't the only one on AVA's side...I love her as much as my wife will allow me to!
- Aug 22, 2018
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hope alot more since I feel like this stuff needs way more content with the main cast. However I guess it's about to reach the finish line.
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if we take away Elaine's feelings of guilt towards MC and her desire (sincere or not) to rebuild a healthy relationship with him (sentimental or not), I think she has very little left. she would become the parody of the sexually repressed milf....
if MC is very hard on her, she never doubts the reasons of his anger, she hopes he will one day forgive her. but in the same way even choosing the opposite options it is always MC who forgives her, the past is never erased, at the most the guilt is partly shifted towards her father, but Elaine never completely exonerates herself
but then heck there really is a path of guilt....
if it was all a misunderstanding, an overreaction of Mc, if we remove this premise, what is the meaning of the story we are living? why Elaine would have been so uncomfortable with the presence of Mc to have to kick him out of her house the day after the funeral of his father? why should she get involved with lawyers to make sure that both have something?
the past is not in question, what is in question is the truthfulness of their present relationship, which is deliberately kept doubtful, with more shadows than lights
if MC is very hard on her, she never doubts the reasons of his anger, she hopes he will one day forgive her. but in the same way even choosing the opposite options it is always MC who forgives her, the past is never erased, at the most the guilt is partly shifted towards her father, but Elaine never completely exonerates herself
but then heck there really is a path of guilt....
if it was all a misunderstanding, an overreaction of Mc, if we remove this premise, what is the meaning of the story we are living? why Elaine would have been so uncomfortable with the presence of Mc to have to kick him out of her house the day after the funeral of his father? why should she get involved with lawyers to make sure that both have something?
the past is not in question, what is in question is the truthfulness of their present relationship, which is deliberately kept doubtful, with more shadows than lights
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Sorry, I am afraid I have to disagree with you on this one. The kind of neglect Elaine and the dad heaped on MC is most assuredly also emotional abuse and can in the long run lead to severe mental problems and abusive relationships, though MC might have the luck that his more early youth having been in a more stable loving situation with his mom will protect him from that. Fact it happened soon after losing his mom, will not have helped though.
Thing is long term emotional abuse is every bit as damaging to a person as physical or sexual abuse, just even harder to proof and see. It is not for nothing that by now things like coercive control and similar abusive patterns are accepted as full on abuse when they happen between a man and a woman in a relation and is even accepted as ground for jail sentences or if the abused one gets violent not to send them to jail. Now if that is the case for grown men and women in an emotionally abusive relationship, do you think it will be any better for a kid or young teen?