VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[lordofhirunds]

 

[botc76]

It is appreciated to use the spoiler function at this time. Many of us have not yet played the update.

I think I was being quite vague enough so as not to consider this any actual spoilers.
I didn't say what was specifically said (intentionally), the suspicions against Elaine were "confirmed" last episode, Cheeky already mentioned which characters you would interact with...
So, I'm not quite sure what exactly you consider a spoiler. Are you referring to me loosely describing possibilities, or that Jenna was manipulating Katie? That might be a reveal, but certainly not surprising after the last episode, considering what Jenna said in the kitchen, during the movie night.
Sorry, but I don't think I revealed anything that would "spoil" someone's enjoyment of the episode or went into specifics so much, that it could be considered that.

 

[WastedTalent]

Everybody generally enjoys diversity in their media. In this genre (AVN's) sometimes you want something with no frills and kinetic, or with a conveyor belt of harem friendly if unrealistic women to indulge in the fantasy. But not always or in some cases not even often (there is regular porn after all). From our POV... the rarest and most memorable/enjoyable games are the ones you don't necessarily play off the cuff because it actually makes you think and weigh your choices. Encourages you to try different things because the responses are so varied, but not non-nonsensical. I personally do enjoy plenty of harem games, especially with a taboo nature, but I really do play a large variety simply because that is the spice of life.

But when it comes down to it, Cheeky and I get the most enjoyment from the types of games when you feel immersed... and the choices presented feel like they have real impact on the story, plot, and relationships. The extra nine yards to that is when the characters themselves will also respond to not just your choices involving them, but all of your choices they are privy too. Add to that when you have a lot of content and options, girls, choices, etc. It provides replayability (which admitedly not everyone wants in this fashion, but usually you would rather have it than not).

Anyway, that is what we set out to do here. And I believe we do it better than anyone else, even to a fault. Most other games with an update this length could be about 3-4 hours long, while ours only is if you try all the combination of choices to see all the outcomes. Chances are our next game will not have anywhere near the grandiose variety of impactful choice and numbers of ways to skin the cat so to speak. It is just too labor intensive. While this makes us sad, it also makes us happy that in a crowded field of relatively similar games, ours will and does stand out, and enough people enjoy it and appreciate that to make it worthwhile monetarily as well.

I get all that and I'm happy for both of you and achieving the level of success you have, I just prefer a different format. I said in my previous post I understand why you did it this way doesn't change that it's disappointing for me and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Doesn't mean I totally hate the game, but no I'm not looking for replays at all. I follow a lot of stories and taking the time to work through I'm not sure how many paths you have that's not even totally clear, but that's just not for me. I'm not hating on you two for the decision just said it was disappointing that's all. I can't speak for everyone but I get attached to characters. I understand it's fiction and it's my issue but I still do and knowing that at some point I'm gonna have to hurt someone just to move forward with someone else bothers me. I do appreciate that you waited until later in the story to push those more concrete choices just wish I didn't have to hurt others making those choices.

 

[acewinz]

I get all that and I'm happy for both of you and achieving the level of success you have, I just prefer a different format. I said in my previous post I understand why you did it this way doesn't change that it's disappointing for me and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Doesn't mean I totally hate the game, but no I'm not looking for replays at all. I follow a lot of stories and taking the time to work through I'm not sure how many paths you have that's not even totally clear, but that's just not for me. I'm not hating on you two for the decision just said it was disappointing that's all. I can't speak for everyone but I get attached to characters. I understand it's fiction and it's my issue but I still do and knowing that at some point I'm gonna have to hurt someone just to move forward with someone else bothers me. I do appreciate that you waited until later in the story to push those more concrete choices just wish I didn't have to hurt others making those choices.

While it may cause some difficulties making the relationships entirely coherent. The easiest fix for you is to not play from a single save or even use them longer than an episode. Just use the quickstart and set all relationships to serious/love and lie like a fiend when necessary. That should do for awhile longer to still see the most content.

 

[lionarslan]

the gofile link for pc version points to the mac version. (didn't try to download it but the description says mac)

I noticed the same thing. The game is over 4 Gbs, so half a day to download from Mega or use MixDrop and wait for a couple of hours. With Gofile it's really faster. So we either wait while link for Gofile will be corrected or use other sites to download.

 

[XCelesX]

good thing this time it is the real deal and not a fake. Good update. Now the waiting game sadly begins again

 

[Gardan]

Day 1 leak is a cunt move. Just saying.

Only if you downloaded it on day 1

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Okay, maybe I got carried away but I read these forums and some of the "stories" and theories people have are so bizarre I find them amusing.

Then you get those that question the plot, think they can do better and then go on to say stealing 15 million from a legally appointed trust would be better story telling in a story that has tried to stay grounded.

Sure, if this was a parody of Oceans 11 and we were robbing a casino but it's not. It's a bunch of college kids and milfs.

Lets see how that story would REALLY go down.....

Jenna hacks the trust, transfers it to the MC. The people running the trust see the new name and shut it down straight away and starting an investigation. Once the MC is arrested and behind bars, which he will be for 15 million there is no slap on the wrist unless it's a slap with brand sparkly new wrist accessories .... then they move on to who did the hacking and as the MC only knows one computer expert, Jenna can wave goodbye to her life and future too.

Then what happens is the money would be allocated to the 2 people that didn't go Itialian Job on the trust while the MC spends his days bent over as Tiny's bitch.

That's almost as whacky as people that didn't read the words in the gym and still think Katie is willing to share with her sister .... she doesn't want to share with anyone but it seems story doesn't really matter anymore.

It grates when people slam the writing and then come up with something so crap even Hollywood would struggle to make a movie out of it and they love shovelling shit.

It's as bad as those that still won't accept it isn't an incest story despite the dev saying it isn't an incest story and people saying for years now it isn't an incest story.

Those wind me up the most.

Thank you. Glad you held back a bit there. However, I completely agree with you. There are too few that really pay attention and too many that are just looking for more of the same with different rooms and different models. I won't inflict the shit show that is in another thread on you. It is seriously painful at times.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

That's why you hack all records and anything on paper gets destroyed or misplaced. It's easier than you think and don't tell me what to do I happen to have talent when it comes to writing. I have actually been told by a professional writer I should be writing lol. The other two women would need proof? It's only a crime if it can be proven in a court of law. Secondly I'm sure they wouldn't be that difficult to buy off lol. The father already stated they are gold diggers as long as they get their money without the will conditions do you really think they would be inclined to report anything? Lastly If all proof is disappeared what can be reported? Besides that it's fiction. I have seen far far less believable things in many stories. But yes go on a rant and show your ass as you always do because you don't like me or my opinons.

I guess the point is that reality would be a bit more difficult than you are implying. You can be a great writer and the Lawyers will eat your lunch every day.

 

[Maveric]

Android with mod and gallery mod?

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

While it may cause some difficulties making the relationships entirely coherent. The easiest fix for you is to not play from a single save or even use them longer than an episode. Just use the quickstart and set all relationships to serious/love and lie like a fiend when necessary. That should do for awhile longer to still see the most content.

Sorry, can't lie to Bella or Katie. They have mystical powers over me!

 

[Tokenugget]

The problem with WVM...
Would be some people will see the "Trans" tag and bail on it.
With me however its a selling point but I do know that will cause more people to stay clear of it

I would have suggested sorcerer
https://f95zone.to/threads/sorcerer-v1-0-0-talothral.58369/

At least the reason for the harem is well explained with needing to build a house and desire for babies.
(Not getting into that for spoiler reasons and it has its own forum)

Uh, WVM literally gives you the option to have trans character into a binary choice. LOL. Not sure you're talking about.

Anyway, no harem why do this devs? You gonna make me choose between all these lovely characters??? I guess it "subverted expectations" like Game of Thrones season 8. Couldn't just give us the pleasure.
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[Deleted member 15555]

Speaking for myself.
I prefer games not to have a Harem.
I don't mind if they do but I prefer jealousy to be added and choices to be made.

(I.E.) Mass Effect 1, if you tried to romance Ash and Liara
You are shown a cut scene and you are suppose to pick one, if you dont Liara is the default choice.
I prefer this kinda out come but that's my own taste of liking consequence for my choices/actions.

I don't think a lack of harem should ever turn you off of a game.
There are so many that are written so well and better off because of it.

Hope you find good Harem games.

I don't think the problem is the lack of harem but people getting accustomed to having all the girls in this game, and since this game has many many girls it makes it difficult to choose 1 or 2.
Whether is laziness to have to play multiple routes for each girl or indecisiveness because they find it difficult to choose, you can't really blame people for being upset or a bit down about all this.
Hopefully Cheeky allows us this type of thing in his next game, or at least warn us since the start.

 

[Tokenugget]

I don't think the problem is the lack of harem but people getting accustomed to having all the girls in this game, and since this game has many many girls it makes it difficult to choose 1 or 2.
Whether is laziness to have to play multiple routes for each girl or indecisiveness because they find it difficult to choose, you can't really blame people for being upset or a bit down about all this.
Hopefully Cheeky allows us this type of thing in his next game, or at least warn us since the start.

I don't normally complain about the writing. But when the whole game builds up to harem and suddenly pulls it away.... It's like wow, wtf ok. Thanks? I guess i'll just "enjoy" the sudden change? I was trying to immerse myself now i'm suddenly anxious about every decision and trying to determine who i want to finish with. Is this the same game i just played for the last year??? LOL

 

[Deleted member 15555]

I don't normally complain about the writing. But when the whole game builds up to harem and suddenly pulls it away.... It's like wow, wtf ok. Thanks? I guess i'll just "enjoy" the sudden change? I was trying to immerse myself now i'm suddenly anxious about every decision and trying to determine who i want i finish with. Is this the same game i just played for the last year??? LOL

Is not a sudden change, it was just an error in tags around that time because Cheeky never was asked about harem in the past, it wasn't until way in later eps that someone asked and he said there won't be any harem.
What we took for granted is not the dev's faults, is like they say... you can't get a proper answer if you don't ask a proper question.
The fault is ultimately us.

In any case, I love this game and that is not something that won't keep me from playing, as weird it sounds the most I enjoy about this game is the writing, the jokes, and the bickering

 

[Tokenugget]

Is not a sudden change, it was just an error in tags around that time because Cheeky never was asked about harem in the past, it wasn't until way in later eps that someone asked and he said there won't be any harem.
What we took for granted is not the dev's faults, is like they say... you can't get a proper answer if you don't ask a proper question.
The fault is ultimately us.

In any case, I love this game and that is not something that won't keep me from playing, as weird it sounds the most I enjoy about this game is the writing, the jokes, and the bickering

Fair enough. I'm obviously not the developer. LOL. Can't fault them for what i wanted to see. But damn, i just wish it could have ended with Kate, Jenna, Lily, Debbie, Monica, Jolina, Angel, Wanda and all the other girls with me living happily ever after. But i guess it went CW mode

 

[Avaron1974]

I don't normally complain about the writing. But when the whole game builds up to harem and suddenly pulls it away.... It's like wow, wtf ok. Thanks? I guess i'll just "enjoy" the sudden change? I was trying to immerse myself now i'm suddenly anxious about every decision and trying to determine who i want i finish with. Is this the same game i just played for the last year??? LOL

It was never a harem game, the devs said that.

They let you choose who to date but the story and the girls told you you were never going to get all of them.

The fact is you ignored everything the game told you and ignored all the warnings. That's on you.

There was never a harem tag and Cheeky has said since 2018 that he doesn't see this having a full harem.

 

[Skylaroo]

I don't think the problem is the lack of harem but people getting accustomed to having all the girls in this game, and since this game has many many girls it makes it difficult to choose 1 or 2.
Whether is laziness to have to play multiple routes for each girl or indecisiveness because they find it difficult to choose, you can't really blame people for being upset or a bit down about all this.
Hopefully Cheeky allows us this type of thing in his next game, or at least warn us since the start.

For me personally, it's the lack of clarity on what paths are actually available to pursue. For example, in the past there were some people who would swear their lives that we couldn't pursue anyone else if we're pursuing Katie, but then the foursome scene was created. The lack of clarity of what's ok and not completely made me hesitant to pick a route, so it's easier to just pursue everyone and watch the world burn if it comes down to it.

It doesn't help either that the plot is dragged for so long that we still don't know whether some girls are good/bad 4 years after the release (and it's very likely that we still won't know for another year or two from now). This further turns me off from getting too invested in the relationship with some girls because there's a risk of them being the villain.

In hindsight, I really wish this game has less characters because the game really wanted to focus on the inheritance plot but minor characters really distracted from the plot progression because they are irrelevant to it. Alternately, it could've dropped the inheritance plot and replace with a more generic story that would suit the large cast.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

Fair enough. I'm obviously not the developer. LOL. Can't fault them for what i wanted to see. But damn, i just wish it could have ended with Kate, Jenna, Lily, Debbie, Monica, Jolina, Angel, Wanda and all the other girls with me living happily ever after. But i guess it went CW mode

If you play the game to the last chapter, you end up with just one conclusion....
the game sets the player to get attached to many girls, to mistrust some of them because of the "will" testament/money, if we could somehow have all-girls there won't be any plot left and no conflict whatsoever xD

Skylaroo from a plot standpoint it won't make any sense to have all girls, it won't make sense if there were less girls either because then you may be able to know easily who can be the traitor etc

Why wouldn't it make sense to have less girls? Minor characters like Natasha, Mabel, Angel, etc are basically irrelevant to the inheritance plot line.

Irrelevant for you maybe, I prefer to have them, I like Angel a lot for example, different players different Li's they like, there is many games where side girls may get more fanbase than the main girls, which is not something the devs or anyone else can call "irrelevant", I get you are saying irrelevant to the plot but then again some of those girls are what keeps us interested in many games.

 

[Skylaroo]

@Skylaroo from a plot standpoint it won't make any sense to have all girls, it won't make sense if there were less girls either because then you may be able to know easily who can be the traitor etc

I didn't expect harem. I just wanted clarity on what we can/not do in the game so I don't waste my time pursuing something that we can't, or completely missing something that we can.

Why wouldn't it make sense to have less girls? Minor characters like Natasha, Mabel, Angel, etc are basically irrelevant to the inheritance plot line.