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Porthas

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If you play a game during development and you fund a game to be a beta tester (a concept I still have strong mixed feelings over) you're going to run into problems/complaints such as those being posted in this thread.

I'd advise, after having a bit of time to look over this environment and think about it, to just wait until the game is out and done. Pay for it then if it looks like something you want to play. In the meantime, just play other games.

I don't advise paying for the privilege of being a beta tester, which has become more of a problem in the industry both small and Triple AAA (looking at you Cyberpunk). As much as possible, make a dev earn your dollars and get what you want.

That said, I don't mind if a dev posts a game (such as here) and asks for feedback. I'll test out the game and tell them what I do and don't like.

If you ARE going to pay to be a beta tester, just go into it knowing you're putting your money into something that may turn out to not be the product you want. Something you wouldn't have spent money on for the finished product. If you're cool with that, then more power to ya.
 

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Well update was OK. Def not the best one. The only problem i have is the "Dad's Will Clusterfuck", totally boring. *FUCK YOU DAD* :ROFLMAO:
 
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VonRaschke

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It's always perplexing to me when porn devs go to the trouble of doing the art work, the writing, and coding for sex scenes/routes but then don't include a "harem" route where the user can just encounter the dev's hard work all in one playthrough. Just feels like a waste of time to work on stuff that a segment of your userbase may never play through just because they got funneled into specific routes.
 

Avaron1974

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It's always perplexing to me when porn devs go to the trouble of doing the art work, the writing, and coding for sex scenes/routes but then don't include a "harem" route where the user can just encounter the dev's hard work all in one playthrough. Just feels like a waste of time to work on stuff that a segment of your userbase may never play through just because they got funneled into specific routes.
You may as well just play kinetic novels then. No point adding choices if they don't go anywhere.

Devs aren't making these to showcase porn scenes, they are making adult games with stories.
 
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Tokenugget

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You may as well just play kinetic novels then. No point adding choices if they don't go anywhere.
Well... the issues are much deeper than your binary options. This game went season 8 Game of Thrones on us :ROFLMAO: this is not the story we've been playing.

I don't know if the writers changed or what, but this feels like a different game. We were once romancing all these women and following their stories, but now we're faced at every moment with the hard to choice to abandon them or make them our sole interest??

Porn game or not, i'm confused. I guess the devs didn't want a pleasurable ending, that's their choice, but don't pretend like it's a great "story"
 

Avaron1974

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Well... the issues are much deeper than your binary options. This game went season 8 Game of Thrones on us :ROFLMAO: this is not the story we've been playing.

I don't know if the writers changed or what, but this feels like a different game. We were once romancing all these women and following their stories, but now we're faced at every moment with the hard to choice to abandon them or make them our sole interest??

Porn game or not, i'm confused. I guess the devs didn't want a pleasurable ending, that's their choice, but don't pretend like it's a great "story"
You act like Cheeky didn't say 4 years ago this wasn't a harem game, he did.

The fact is you ignored everything the dev said and everything said in game. There have been warnings for the past couple of years that a harem would never work, you ignored it.

I'm guessing you skipped all the words and just watched the sex scenes.

It isn't a recent change, it was never a thing to start with.
 

Tokenugget

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You act like Cheeky didn't say 4 years ago this wasn't a harem game, he did.

The fact is you ignored everything the dev said and everything said in game. There have been warnings for the past couple of years that a harem would never work, you ignored it.

I'm guessing you skipped all the words and just watched the sex scenes.

It isn't a recent change, it was never a thing to start with.
Nah, i didn't expect full on harem... but i also didn't expect "You've permanently ended the relationship with XXXXXX" at every turn.
 

Avaron1974

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Nah, i didn't expect full on harem... but i also didn't expect "You've permanently ended the relationship with XXXXXX" at every turn.
There have been constant warnings that the girls wouldn't share.

Katie was only willing to share with the girls but jealousy still gets involved. None of the older women are willing at all.

It's not like it was sprung on you, you've had warnings. None of it was a surprise.

This is as laughable as those complaining about Becoming a Rockstar having all the LI's dump the MC if he was dating them all, they also gave you plenty of warning they wouldn't share.

It's like some of you ignore everything you get told and make up your own narrative.
 

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On one hand we want our choices to matter in those kind of game...
On tho other hand, loading previous saves to check every options is very tedious.

Some women want exclusive relationship, some women were willing to "share" but not with every women for [more or less] obvious reasons.
Hopefully, there will be a solid guide/walkthrough, just to be sure to not miss anything.
 

Ginji

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Does anyone know how to properly get the MEGA link to work with MegaDownloader? I try using the links given, and MegaDownloader keeps trying to download everything there. The closest thing I could do was to stop the entire download in MegaDownloader, select everything but the specific file I wanted, and then "Delete from list and disk" in the right-click menu. It seemed to work, but I'm looking for a way that is less awkward with less potential issues.
make sure youve got megadownloader 1.8 and follow this

its 1.7 but it the same for 1.8 :)
 

PowerFlower

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Well this turned into one depressing break-up simulator. I remember when this game used to be really witty and hot, now even the side characters are dishing out morality lectures (while simultaneously blackmailing you).

The mom is crying in her room. Lily says she's already "sharing" you with her friends but when you ask her to include Katie she breaks up with you. Peachy. Yet in the very next scene you can joke with Katie about including Lily and Debbie. I am confusion. Maybe that gets cleared up later on but that was the point I quit.
 

Crimson Fire

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You may as well just play kinetic novels then. No point adding choices if they don't go anywhere.

Devs aren't making these to showcase porn scenes, they are making adult games with stories.

If you want porn fuck off to pornhub.
Umm, your position assumes that all choices lead to a harem route result. Including a harem route to allow players to experience more of the story and art of the developer in a playthrough doesn't preclude other choices. Not sure how you equate including of something equals the exclusion of all other things. There is no logic to such a position. Your position also assumes that everyone given an option to go the harem route will do so. Which doesn't seem grounded in anything at all, as many people don't like harem content based on the numerous NTR vs harem debates on the site. Hell I've read people say they dislike both harem and NTR?

I really don't care if the dev includes harem or not, Just make the story make sense. I just remember a game [Can't remember the name and i don't know if it is even on this site] I stopped playing that had the a four way relationship going that the women in the situation proposed the arrangement and the story (I'm bit fuzzy on the details as its been a while) was such that both the protagonist and the three woman where in danger. the protagonist nearly dies and the most pressing thing the protagonist needs to do after nearly dying from a threat very much still active is stop his harem and choose a single love interest. Maybe stop thinking about your love life and thing about saving yourself and the women most important to you and THEN make your choice. It made no sense narratively, and you are just asking to be distracted as two of the three woman and NOT going to be happy about it at all.
 

sergesan

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because of this non harem thing ,i played it until you had to start makin breakups and now im out....it was entertaining till now but here is the point to stop if you love harem routes,cause it gets ugly,haremwise....the start was super not so the rest but even then....THANKS FOR A COOL half of a game.....
 

Tokenugget

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There have been constant warnings that the girls wouldn't share.

Katie was only willing to share with the girls but jealousy still gets involved. None of the older women are willing at all.

It's not like it was sprung on you, you've had warnings. None of it was a surprise.

This is as laughable as those complaining about Becoming a Rockstar having all the LI's dump the MC if he was dating them all, they also gave you plenty of warning they wouldn't share.

It's like some of you ignore everything you get told and make up your own narrative.
Not sure if we played the same game this whole time... The only "warnings" were the dialog options in the game that coaxed each of the girls into the idea of a harem. Only to be pulled away in a sudden "nope" by a writing decision in the last update.

But again, i'm not a dev. lol. Maybe they'd rather have a consequential ending than a satisfying one. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Umm, your position assumes that all choices lead to a harem route result. Including a harem route to allow players to experience more of the story and art of the developer in a playthrough doesn't preclude other choices. Not sure how you equate including of something equals the exclusion of all other things. There is no logic to such a position. Your position also assumes that everyone given an option to go the harem route will do so. Which doesn't seem grounded in anything at all, as many people don't like harem content based on the numerous NTR vs harem debates on the site. Hell I've read people say they dislike both harem and NTR?

I really don't care if the dev includes harem or not, Just make the story make sense. I just remember a game [Can't remember the name and i don't know if it is even on this site] I stopped playing that had the a four way relationship going that the women in the situation proposed the arrangement and the story (I'm bit fuzzy on the details as its been a while) was such that both the protagonist and the three woman where in danger. the protagonist nearly dies and the most pressing thing the protagonist needs to do after nearly dying from a threat very much still active is stop his harem and choose a single love interest. Maybe stop thinking about your love life and thing about saving yourself and the women most important to you and THEN make your choice. It made no sense narratively, and you are just asking to be distracted as two of the three woman and NOT going to be happy about it at all.
Sounds like one of Daniels K games, that kind of thing happens in at least half of them lol.
 
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For a long time I enjoyed this game, yes I did read the dialogue, but I also realise that devs hide things and include surprises, plot twists and the like into their games. But unfortunately this game has recently lost its appeal because of the particular way in which the dev has made the 'dominos fall'. The game is no longer enjoyable to me, good luck to the dev, I'm out of here.
 

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Is this update significant or should I wait to download.

Commenting on a couple of posts before. WVM is..... an overload. It certainly has a loyal fan base, but god damn its a lot of chicks, and the two you really want seem to be off limits from the dev for "incest" reasons. bleh.

Parental Love. It is the first and only game I deleted all traces of from my computer. Went too far, and I was immensely uncomfortable with it.

Sisterly Lust is one of the GOAT! Love it. Bought it on Steam to support.
I also bought Secret Summer, Picture Perfect, and Come Home *DLC is only thing to pay for on steam at the moment, base game is free. I also bought Time For You. All Incest Harem Games lol.

So is this update worthy or should I wait?
This update was incredible imo. Progresses the story well and has some of the hottest scenes to date. Seems to be some complaints about forced relationship ending, but that was always going to happen in a story that's been written like this.

I also 100% share your views on PL (ick) and SL (incredible) so if we're on the same page about that, then maybe we'll be in agreement about this update. Hats off to Cheeky and the team, I loved this update.
 

Avaron1974

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Umm, your position assumes that all choices lead to a harem route result. Including a harem route to allow players to experience more of the story and art of the developer in a playthrough doesn't preclude other choices. Not sure how you equate including of something equals the exclusion of all other things. There is no logic to such a position. Your position also assumes that everyone given an option to go the harem route will do so. Which doesn't seem grounded in anything at all, as many people don't like harem content based on the numerous NTR vs harem debates on the site. Hell I've read people say they dislike both harem and NTR?

I really don't care if the dev includes harem or not, Just make the story make sense. I just remember a game [Can't remember the name and i don't know if it is even on this site] I stopped playing that had the a four way relationship going that the women in the situation proposed the arrangement and the story (I'm bit fuzzy on the details as its been a while) was such that both the protagonist and the three woman where in danger. the protagonist nearly dies and the most pressing thing the protagonist needs to do after nearly dying from a threat very much still active is stop his harem and choose a single love interest. Maybe stop thinking about your love life and thing about saving yourself and the women most important to you and THEN make your choice. It made no sense narratively, and you are just asking to be distracted as two of the three woman and NOT going to be happy about it at all.
My position on this and EVERY game is based on 2 things, what the game tells me and what the devs tell me.

Cheeky told us 4 years ago this wasn't going to have a harem so I never played it as such but on the routes I did take there were constant warnings it was not going to end well if I had multiple partners.

The other game you are talking about sounds like Retrieving the Past, another game the dev said wouldn't have a harem and the MC woulod have to choose and another game the dev was ignored and people acted like it was sprung on them.

Same thing happened with BaR despite constant warnings.

I freely admit i'm not a fan of harems, I think they look ridiculous as fuck and make choice based game utterly pointless.

People keep bringing up WVM as doing a harem game well but it isn't much of a game. It's a pick your porn scene simulator. Choices mean nothing and all boil down to "wanna see sum, fuk yes or no". And that's fine for what it is, it is a good fuck fest novel.

Harems are great in fantasy settings.

I missed one out from games I enjoy, I also love Last Sovereign and that does a harem insanely well. The thing there is the MC is an Incubus King that needs all the sex to power up so collecting women like it's Pokemon made sense.

Sisterly Lust and Parental Love both did it great by getting everyone involved and leaving no one out but that could never work here considering half the cast hate each other.

The sad thing is, people see multiple LI's and instantly expect harem despite everything they are told.

The REALLY sad thing is despite being told for 4 years this would never have a harem it still has people complaining yet they must have grasped by now the dev isn't going to pander to them.

For a long time I enjoyed this game, yes I did read the dialogue, but I also realise that devs hide things and include surprises, plot twists and the like into their games. But unfortunately this game has recently lost its appeal because of the particular way in which the dev has made the 'dominos fall'. The game is no longer enjoyable to me, good luck to the dev, I'm out of here.
"The game told me not to expect a harem but because other games have plot twists I ignored it yet when it happened I gave up" .... fucking, wut?

Is this update significant or should I wait to download.

Commenting on a couple of posts before. WVM is..... an overload. It certainly has a loyal fan base, but god damn its a lot of chicks, and the two you really want seem to be off limits from the dev for "incest" reasons. bleh.

Parental Love. It is the first and only game I deleted all traces of from my computer. Went too far, and I was immensely uncomfortable with it.

Sisterly Lust is one of the GOAT! Love it. Bought it on Steam to support.
I also bought Secret Summer, Picture Perfect, and Come Home *DLC is only thing to pay for on steam at the moment, base game is free. I also bought Time For You. All Incest Harem Games lol.

So is this update worthy or should I wait?
Picture Perfect was so close to being great.

I loved the characters, I loved the build but it could have done with being a few updates longer to let things end naturally. It did feel a bit abrupt at the end.

Secret Summer is doing better.

I don't include Come Home because they never interact with each other so it's less of a harem and more a guy that gets lots of sex.
 
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