VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Geralt_R]

I'm curious what you guys want/intend when the gold digger is unmasked? Do you want vengeance?

I think there should be a redemption option. Maybe Dizzy was so swayed by the MCs irresistable charms that she comes around and rethinks her life choices. I am not out for vengeance at all, I'd merely like to know why Dizzy did what she did and how she can live with herself after all that.

I myself would be much more forgiving with Jolina... Bella, that depends a lot on execution, still no vengeance though. There would be a chance I forgive her, at worst I would stop all contact and let her be. I mean, you can even forgive Elaine and what she did, not knowing her true motivations, is pretty nasty as well.

In a "money doesn't matter, Katie/Jenna/Monica matter" playthrough the entire thing is but a curiosity anyway. But still, I feel giving the player the choice to either forgive Dizzy or to plan revenge is the way to go... as well as telling her to go to hell, letting her keep the money without any revenge plans, telling her to be happy with 15 million while she's all alone, money can't buy you love as John Lennon said.

but Lily isn't anyway so for me it's purely a theoretical problem

Yeah yeah, and then Lily is the Manchurian Candiate I hope not of course! I would assume Monica, Katie, Jenna, Debbie and Lily are 100% safe choices.

 

[Combat Wombat]

Hehe. Love watching you guys theorize. Plenty of you are very much on the right track, and some are so far off I think our little diversion tactics have made you a bit too paranoid.

However the cookie crumbles, I'm curious what you guys want/intend when the gold digger is unmasked? Do you want vengeance? If they wound up in your romance pool do you want to try and make it work? Do you think they could somehow be justified in their own way for the things they have done? Does it matter if so to your cold unfeeling heart?

The only 2 I care about is Katie and Jenna, if it is either of them then as long as I have the choice to forgive them then I will as long as we can live happily ever after. Anyone else can burn in hell for all I care, don't care who it is haha. But seriously though i dont care about the house or the money, i want my mc to spend the rest of his days with Katie, Jenna and Monica so i probably would forgive whoever it is because at the end of the day my mc got what he wanted.

 

[Combat Wombat]

Ask me again after EP 23.

With all these theories floating about I'm beginning to second guess your meaning behind this.....originally i thought that you'd just like a reminder or something like that for a future episode because you probably get story requests a lot. Now however I'm thinking that you may have said that because something may happen in episode 23 to make me want to change my mind in which case that would indicate that Katie/Jenna may be involved somehow GODDAMNIT!!!! Most of my theories are jokes, theres only a few genuine ones but i really hope we get answers in 23 coz this in so suspenseful haha. I cant speak for anyone else but i for one have been racking my brain trying to figure this out, now that don't happen a lot, I don't normally put this much thought into things so fair play to you devs for making this so gripping and enticing. I'm really looking forward to how the story develops not just for 23 but future episodes as well.

 

[BillyPlums]

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However the cookie crumbles, I'm curious what you guys want/intend when the gold digger is unmasked? Do you want vengeance? If they wound up in your romance pool do you want to try and make it work? Do you think they could somehow be justified in their own way for the things they have done? Does it matter if so to your cold unfeeling heart?

Most of my curiosity about the gold digger (and the inheritance money) is intellectual. However, if any of Monica, Katie or Jenna show up at the lawyer's office as claimants, I will quit the game and never play it again. No hard feelings, guys, but you set this up as Monica and the girls or the money. If they've been fucking with me, I'm gone.
What I really don't want to see is a scenario where who you are romancing affects the gold digger. i.e If you are romancing Elaine then (say) Bella is the bad guy, whereas if you are romancing Bella then (say) Elaine is the bad guy. That would also leave a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[BeingADikDik]

Just give us what we all want: Francois as the gold digger. Ep. 23 reveals that 'Transcois' used to be Francine, Elaine and Bella's sister-in-law and MC's long lost aunt.

 

[Geralt_R]

that Katie/Jenna may be involved somehow

If it's Katie I will wipe my hard drive, overwrite all blocks 100 times with "0" and then have my memory of the game wiped by a hypnotist so I forget about this game until the day I die. Jenna I can kind of see how she may be involuntarily involved as a pawn (so still mostly innocent)... but Katie?!?!?? Never ever ever! That would be completely random and silly!

However, if any of Monica, Katie or Jenna show up at the lawyer's office as claimants, I will quit the game and never play it again.

Exactly! But I can't see it happening, if the writer has any plans that make sense.

 

[ename144]

Hehe. Love watching you guys theorize. Plenty of you are very much on the right track, and some are so far off I think our little diversion tactics have made you a bit too paranoid.

However the cookie crumbles, I'm curious what you guys want/intend when the gold digger is unmasked? Do you want vengeance? If they wound up in your romance pool do you want to try and make it work? Do you think they could somehow be justified in their own way for the things they have done? Does it matter if so to your cold unfeeling heart?

I'm curious as to what you expect me to want revenge for? Maybe we'll learn something new in Episode 23, but AFAWK the gold digger isn't the one who denied the MC his inheritance; depending on your point of view, that was either Donald or the MC himself. The GD might be trying to get the MC's money, but (unless the will conditions we've learned are false) her efforts haven't done much to thwart us. We still get to make the final choice ourselves: Monica (et al) or the money. If it bothers me that the GD gets her money when the MC doesn't, that seems more like resentment than vengeance.

Now it's entirely possible there's more we don't know about yet. Maybe the GD has been more successful screwing over Elaine and Elaine really would have helped the MC out if she'd been given the chance. And maybe the GD has plans to trick the MC into seeing Monica and the girls if he tries to pick the money. Those would be things that might warrant revenge. Likewise, if it turns out that Elaine didn't need my help to keep the house and just wanted some cheap real estate, I shall be very put out. The problem is that I can't plan revenge against those slights until I actually know about them.

So the question feels a little premature to me. As of right now, my intention when the gold digger is unmasked to is to understand what the hell has been going on. Anything else must wait for that first step to complete.

With all these theories floating about I'm beginning to second guess your meaning behind this.....originally i thought that you'd just like a reminder or something like that for a future episode because you probably get story requests a lot. Now however I'm thinking that you may have said that because something may happen in episode 23 to make me want to change my mind in which case that would indicate that Katie/Jenna may be involved somehow GODDAMNIT!!!! Most of my theories are jokes, theres only a few genuine ones but i really hope we get answers in 23 coz this in so suspenseful haha. I cant speak for anyone else but i for one have been racking my brain trying to figure this out, now that don't happen a lot, I don't normally put this much thought into things so fair play to you devs for making this so gripping and enticing. I'm really looking forward to how the story develops not just for 23 but future episodes as well.

My guess is we'll have a chance to talk to Jenna and get her to agree to 'share' the MC with Katie (i.e. the two girls won't get within a Patreon of each other but they'll let the MC sleep with the both of them). We may have to wait an additional episode to get Katie to agree, and we'll have to play all our cards right to make it work, but I suspect that's a deal people would be happy to accept.

 

[acewinz]

What I really don't want to see is a scenario where who you are romancing affects the gold digger. i.e If you are romancing Elaine then (say) Bella is the bad guy, whereas if you are romancing Bella then (say) Elaine is the bad guy. That would also leave a bad taste in my mouth.

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[BillyPlums]

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Oh, I have every confidence that you guys could pull it off it you wanted to. I am just glad that you didn't want to. In fact, now that I think about it, I recall you stating earlier that the gold digger has always been the same person regardless of choice. Please forgive my lack of faith, and my poor memory.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I'm curious as to what you expect me to want revenge for? Maybe we'll learn something new in Episode 23, but AFAWK the gold digger isn't the one who denied the MC his inheritance; depending on your point of view, that was either Donald or the MC himself. The GD might be trying to get the MC's money, but (unless the will conditions we've learned are false) her efforts haven't done much to thwart us. We still get to make the final choice ourselves: Monica (et al) or the money. If it bothers me that the GD gets her money when the MC doesn't, that seems more like resentment than vengeance.

Now it's entirely possible there's more we don't know about yet. Maybe the GD has been more successful screwing over Elaine and Elaine really would have helped the MC out if she'd been given the chance. And maybe the GD has plans to trick the MC into seeing Monica and the girls if he tries to pick the money. Those would be things that might warrant revenge. Likewise, if it turns out that Elaine didn't need my help to keep the house and just wanted some cheap real estate, I shall be very put out. The problem is that I can't plan revenge against those slights until I actually know about them.

So the question feels a little premature to me. As of right now, my intention when the gold digger is unmasked to is to understand what the hell has been going on. Anything else must wait for that first step to complete.

what you say is true only with respect to strongly secondary characters such as Theresa, Wanda, and perhaps Angel, where there is less involvement.

But on the other alternatives there is coumnque a huge problem of betrayed trust and fairly repeated omissions.

Let's take off the table right away the case that the gold digger was one of the "family" group, which would be morally a huge betrayal of MC.

but even sticking to the 2 main suspects there would be several situations to clarify. if the gold digger was Bella she would have continually lied to MC to manipulate him we don't really know for what purpose, we would have to question almost every word she uttered, every time she tried to make Elaine look bad, every clue she passed on to MC etc etc. she is probably the character who would become more difficult to trust in the aftermath of the revelation, she would really need a very good motivation to justify herself, and the legacy would not be enough to regain credibility.

to a lesser extent, however, this also applies to Jolina; the whole bankruptcy thing at that point would just be a set-up to get MC to help her, also a textbook manipulation. and given how central Jolina's economic difficulties have been to her history with MC, this would call almost everything into question, even without considering any malice in the matter of the security footage that would catch Elaine.

 

[ramvivat]

I'm curious what you guys want/intend when the gold digger is unmasked?

if her arguments are convincing enough and if my heart says that she is telling the truth, I will probably forgive.

I remember there was a screen character Yuri Detochkin from the comedy "Beware of the Car" - he stole cars, sold them, and sent all the money to the accounts of orphanages without leaving a penny for himself. in case you say that this only happens in the movies, I will answer that Yuri Detochkin had a real prototype, Boris Vengrover.

as an option - for the diligence of the ladies of compensation to the gold digger from the money that he took from her. so that she at least gets something (after all, I must admit she did a gigantic job)

there is a parable: the wife of a poor priest wakes him up in the middle of the night: - wake up, there are thieves in our house, go chase them away - why worry? let them find something first. and take away little work.

the thief was looking for and FOUND what we could not find by doing our job for us - for which he is due gratitude, to be honest. Is this option considered good for everyone?

 

[milos1fan]

Hehe. Love watching you guys theorize. Plenty of you are very much on the right track, and some are so far off I think our little diversion tactics have made you a bit too paranoid.

However the cookie crumbles, I'm curious what you guys want/intend when the gold digger is unmasked? Do you want vengeance? If they wound up in your romance pool do you want to try and make it work? Do you think they could somehow be justified in their own way for the things they have done? Does it matter if so to your cold unfeeling heart?

Is there going to be repercussions for fooling around too much, like unwanted pregnancy? Something that will fuck over the mc even more but, it being completely his fault this time.

 

[Combat Wombat]

My guess is we'll have a chance to talk to Jenna and get her to agree to 'share' the MC with Katie (i.e. the two girls won't get within a Patreon of each other but they'll let the MC sleep with the both of them). We may have to wait an additional episode to get Katie to agree, and we'll have to play all our cards right to make it work, but I suspect that's a deal people would be happy to accept.

My original post a few days ago was regarding this because i really want a poly relationship with both Katie and Jenna, not them 2 together (although i wouldnt be opposed to that and i think jenna is kinky enough to be up for a little threeway sommit sommit with katie as long as its mild and done tastefully just like the orgy with debbie and lily where they just passed around the mc instead of really interacting with each other) but them both happy to share the mc with each other.

 

[acewinz]

Is there going to be repercussions for fooling around too much, like unwanted pregnancy? Something that will fuck over the mc even more but, it being completely his fault this time.

We are pretty big on your actions having consequence.

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[Harlaw]

We are pretty big on your actions having consequence.

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Damn that latex allergy!

 

[True_Degenerate]

Do you want vengeance? Do you think they could somehow be justified in their own way for the things they have done? Does it matter if so to your cold unfeeling heart?

I wouldn't understand holding a grudge, wanting vengeance, or opting for the house even offline, let alone in a game. I wouldn't, even if the beach-house wasn't mine. With it being mine, it's all good - you have a place to live, and you can work to make a life for yourself. It's why the lawyer, father, and whole mystery storyline is quite a joke to me. Katie, and Jenna, and others wondering if you'd consider ending your relationship with them is hilarious. And yeah, I'm sure they will end up being justified in their own way. Theresa has a story, Wanda has a story, Zarah has a story, and Elaine's story may be sincere. The game is quite optimistic and melancholic in its view of human behaviour. The only characters which don't seem to have any justification for their apparent vices are Mabel and Natasha. Angel too, who I think is just as bad, but most probably wouldn't.

If they wound up in your romance pool do you want to try and make it work?-

Yeah, I still have faith in a harem of every single woman. It's where my heart is. Some will just be for sex, others will be mothers, and we'll live happily ever after.

 

[Abhai]

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Yeah, I still have faith in a harem of every single woman. It's where my heart is. Some will just be for sex, others will be mothers, and we'll live happily ever after.

Spoken like a true degenerate!

 

[ename144]

what you say is true only with respect to strongly secondary characters such as Theresa, Wanda, and perhaps Angel, where there is less involvement.

But on the other alternatives there is coumnque a huge problem of betrayed trust and fairly repeated omissions.

Let's take off the table right away the case that the gold digger was one of the "family" group, which would be morally a huge betrayal of MC.

but even sticking to the 2 main suspects there would be several situations to clarify. if the gold digger was Bella she would have continually lied to MC to manipulate him we don't really know for what purpose, we would have to question almost every word she uttered, every time she tried to make Elaine look bad, every clue she passed on to MC etc etc. she is probably the character who would become more difficult to trust in the aftermath of the revelation, she would really need a very good motivation to justify herself, and the legacy would not be enough to regain credibility.

to a lesser extent, however, this also applies to Jolina; the whole bankruptcy thing at that point would just be a set-up to get MC to help her, also a textbook manipulation. and given how central Jolina's economic difficulties have been to her history with MC, this would call almost everything into question, even without considering any malice in the matter of the security footage that would catch Elaine.

Other than Monica, I'm not seeing all that much harm from these betrayals, at least not at this point. Sure, Bella obviously has some sort of agenda and Jolina is hiding something from us, but until we know more details we don't have much to complain about IMHO: we got the instructions on how to 'earn' our inheritance and it's up to us what we do with that information.

Now if it turns out, for example, that we misjudged Elaine based on things Bella told us then we might be rightly upset with Bella, but a) I'll wait until that's actually been revealed before I react to it, and b) I still wouldn't call that something that warrants "revenge." In most cases it means the MC wouldn't be friends with the gold digger after the reveal.

At any rate, the question is largely moot until we learn what the other will conditions are and how we might be able to affect them. I'm certainly not going to abandon Monica and the girls just to stick it to one of the other beneficiaries.

 

[ramvivat]

and the girls

do you mean Katie and Jenna?
but not possible to love AND Monica AND her daughters... or i'm wrong and game script may be fooled?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Other than Monica, I'm not seeing all that much harm from these betrayals, at least not at this point. Sure, Bella obviously has some sort of agenda and Jolina is hiding something from us, but until we know more details we don't have much to complain about IMHO: we got the instructions on how to 'earn' our inheritance and it's up to us what we do with that information.

Now if it turns out, for example, that we misjudged Elaine based on things Bella told us then we might be rightly upset with Bella, but a) I'll wait until that's actually been revealed before I react to it, and b) I still wouldn't call that something that warrants "revenge." In most cases it means the MC wouldn't be friends with the gold digger after the reveal.

At any rate, the question is largely moot until we learn what the other will conditions are and how we might be able to affect them. I'm certainly not going to abandon Monica and the girls just to stick it to one of the other beneficiaries.

talking of revenge is certainly overstated, but not of strong resentment and complete loss of trust

Monica would certainly be the supreme betrayal, but Katie and Jenna would also create a major wound (theoretically, as they are beyond suspicion), but Debbie and Lily would also become difficult to justify if they should be in a relationship with MC, although in AVNs every last name is a mystery...

To a lesser extent, Zara would also risk much of her relationship with Monica, and consequently MC

the fact then that they possibly played dirty, that they feigned interest in MC for the money would only be an aggravating factor, but they would have already told several lies anyway, if it is not permissible to lose trust for that....